Morning Reads: Big Day in Atlanta, Bush v Romney, No Rex for Dirty Birds

National

Are Romney and Bush ready to rumble?
Holder mum on Petraeus
Elizabeth Warren is loaded.
Gas prices continue to fall.
Judge could rule in dispute over MLK Bible, Nobel prize

Local

Lawmakers poised for action as legislature convenes
Senator: I want to make Columbus a better place.
Panel urges reforms in state child welfare system.
About that MLK statue …
Church takes aim at fire chief’s dismissal.
Demolition begins for city within a city.

Sports

Rex Ryan lands in Buffalo
NFL championship weekend set

74 comments

  1. Noway says:

    Ahhhh, Socialism is in the air…

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democratic congressional leaders plan on Monday to unveil proposed legislation to boost the middle class by giving many families a tax cut that would be countered by a fee on financial transactions and reduced tax benefits for the top 1 percent of earners, the Washington Post reported.

    The plan, which Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland was to introduce, could create a windfall of about $1.2 trillion over a decade, the newspaper said. As much as $800 billion of that could come from a 0.1 percent fee on stock trades, mostly from high-volume transactions, Van Hollen told the Post.

    Spread that wealth around!!! Rob Peter to pay good ‘ol Paul….

    More income inequality crap….

    • benevolus says:

      Banks charge more if you don’t have good credit.
      Groceries cost more in poorer neighborhoods (if you even have a grocery store).
      Everything costs more in the ‘hood.
      Poorer folks don’t have golden parachutes or severance packages or stock options.

      Why is it OK for wealthier people to continue to gouge poorer people every way they can every day of the year but when the less wealthy people try to get a little back somehow it’s a horrible challenge to our way of life?

      • TheEiger says:

        What do you consider wealthy? Anyone who pays taxes and has a retirement account? Not everyone that pays taxes and has a retirement account make over six figures.

      • benevolus says:

        Well why all the angst about a tiny cost to the top 1%? Where is all the outrage over how poor people get shafted all the time? But whenever we ask the most affluent, the most powerful, the most connected, to give back just a tiny bit more, you would think the collapse of western civilization is at hand.

            • TheEiger says:

              We want tax cuts for everyone. Why don’t you tell us why you like to play the class warfare card so much.

              • benevolus says:

                I already listed a couple of things above.
                Our productivity is up but middle class wages are stagnant, but the top 1% continues to accumulate wealth. But it’s the middle class who are doing the work that creates the profit, but they (we!) are getting to share in it under the current scheme. A tiny adjustment may be in order.

                • TheEiger says:

                  I don’t want a tiny adjustment! I want my rates to go down! You are talking about a class warfare scheme to win votes from poor people that will do nothing to actually better their lives. I want to decrease taxes for everyone and get rid of loop holes and stupid deductions that pick winners and losers. You want to blame rich people for the unfortunate conditions of poor people.

                • CountPetofi says:

                  When you went to work for Mister Big they offered you a salary and you accepted. But you’re so overburdened? He’s making money off of your efforts? So, what’s the problem? Why don’t you hold up the 1% as examples of excellence, to be emulated not villified? Seriously!

                  • MattMD says:

                    I don’t really see inheriting a fortune as an example of “excellence”. The ones who made the money themselves I have respect for (Gates, the Spanx gal, etc) but there is nothing to admire about winning some genetic lottery.

                  • benevolus says:

                    I own my own business and I am doing OK. It’s not about me. I drive to work at 7:30 in the morning and see the guys heading to their jobs in their 20 year old pickup trucks to go to some crappy job that makes YOUR life easier, and why shouldn’t they get 1 or 2 % of the wealth they helped create? It’s a negotiation and we are trying to achieve fairness.

                    • CountPetofi says:

                      B
                      If I may use Matt as an example. If I go to him for strep, is he not worth his fee to see me and write me scrip for a zpac? Has he not made my life easier by treating me. And you’re saying it’s ok for others to seize an extra portion of his earnngs?

            • saltycracker says:

              B

              I’m just trying to understand what you mean by middle class the Democrats want to help. Is it $100k to $250k income, $1m to $5m net worth ?

              Inheritance taxes are confiscation of another’s work. The producer should distribute that money however they want, charity, kids, stripper…..

        • TheEiger says:

          Why don’t we just get rid of every tax deduction except for gifts to 501c(3) and lower the rates foe everyone? Instead you and other democrats want to continue to pick winners and losers and play the class warfare card. You just can’t resist an opportunity to talk about the evil rich people. The evil rich people who hire people and produce things.

        • benevolus says:

          So do you think everyone is equally capable? If we just removed the barriers everyone would achieve equal success?

          Or is it more like the winners get to enjoy the spoils and to hell with everyone else?

          • CountPetofi says:

            You are truly a bitter person. Not everyone will be equal. Not everyone will sing like Elvis or play golf like Tiger. You’re ready to steal some of a man like Tiger’s talents to suppliment a plumber’s wages? Truly pitiful.

            • benevolus says:

              I’m guessing you are a John Wayne fan. If he disagreed with someone he didn’t try to beat them with ideas, he just punched them or shot them. That is the equivalent of what you are doing on this discussion forum.

  2. saltycracker says:

    So Obama skipped Paris to watch the playoffs in the house and Holder left town early. Biden and others in the admin left it up to our ambassador with all the heads of state there. But we told them we were still friends, just not coming over for their biggest deal since WWII.

    • saltycracker says:

      On Holder: if you want to be in the military or any law enforcement agency you had better be wearing your best blinders as your track record is zero with this guy.

    • blakeage80 says:

      I’ll have to say, I’m a little torn here. On one hand, you’d expect The Community Organizer to be over there and taking part. One the other hand, The President should not feel compelled to take part in these types of rallies. At most, the SOS should have gone over there and expressed support for the grieving, congratulated the French counter-terrorism forces for their swift response, condemned Islamic violence and vowed to continue the fight against it.

  3. androidguybill says:

    @salty:

    And when was the last president to attend such events? Bush II didn’t. Neither did Bush I. Neither did Reagan. And the next president that you vote for and support won’t either.

    • saltycracker says:

      As usual you read into things that are in your imagination. The post mentioned more than the potus. The White House has admitted their error.

  4. Noway says:

    Bill,
    When was a major ally last bombed/attacked like this? Not being snarky, I simply don’t remember. A show of solidarity is all most folks were looking for. To your recollection, were there events like this that Bush 1 or 2 could have attended?

      • Noway says:

        Were there representations of 30-40 some odd countries after the events you listed, Ed? Were there the type of thing (unity/solidarity movements) we witnessed in France a day or so ago? I don’t believe so….And if France can say they are at was with Radical Islam, why can’t we? Seriously…Are we (The West) so frightened of them that we simply give a more muted response? I’m genuinely curious. I mean, Major Hassan’s murder of the 13 at Ft. Hood, is that truly “workplace violence?” Of course not. Did not Hassan say the “Alluha Akbar” (sp?) phase just like the animals that killed those at the cartoonist’s office? And yet the squishy French can get it right in their characterization of “War with Radical Islam?” Somethin’ ain’t right.

      • gcp says:

        When Mandela died Obama attended the funeral. When Thatcher died neither Obama, Biden or the sos attended the funeral.

        • Will Durant says:

          Mandela was given a state funeral and Thatcher was not, at her own request. They still blew it up more than she would have wanted but I believe only recent members of the Commonwealth sent sitting Prime Ministers and the like.

          • Harry says:

            Obama and Biden were both invited and rejected the invitations. Hugo Chavez actually received about the same level of US delegation as did Lady Thatcher. Let’s see what happens when Fidel kicks it.

          • gcp says:

            Mandela and Thatcher were both out of office for several years before death. Several presidents and prime ministers attended Thatchers funeral, Monti from Italy, Harper from Canada, Kuwait Premier and others. Shultz and a few other former US officials attended.

            Thatchers influence was great not only in Britain but also outside Britain. Her funeral merited at least a visit by the current vp or the sos yet she got neither.

              • Harry says:

                We come back to the main point that Obama, Biden, Kerry and Holder found it convenient to not go to Paris and show solidarity with leading opponents of terrorism.

                • MattMD says:

                  It is hard to set up a presidential visit on such short notice (due to security) and said security would make it less accessible to the public. Then the inchoate haters of Obama would promptly start pissing and moaning about that.

                  I believe the administration has acknowledge they should have sent someone higher up like Kerry.

                  • Harry says:

                    Plenty of other foreign politicians found it feasible to get to Paris. Problem is, Obama spent his formative years being schooled in a madrassa in Indonesia and finds it inconvenient to denounce Islamic terrorism.

                    • taylor says:

                      We have dropped bomb after bomb on ISIS, killed Islamic terrorists (including Americans) all over the world, but you and Fix News don’t approve of his vocabulary?

                    • MattMD says:

                      You are really willfully ignorant, Harry. Obama has killed more Islamists than Bush.

                      Harry, seriously, get educated.

                    • Harry says:

                      I don’t know if Obama has killed more Islamics than Bush but he’s certainly killed more than his share. Obama has an Islamic background too, so that’s one reason he’s a very complicated and conflicted person. He wants to call terrorism everything but that word, yet he’s driven for political and also perhaps personal reasons into playing God in the Middle East and trying to sort them out. But then again, it seems more Islamics are killed by other Islamics than everyone else.

                    • Will Durant says:

                      Great source Harry. A guy who has been predicting either economic collapse or the rapture, or both, are just around the corner for the last decade. All while peddling his prepper gear.

                      I am hardly a defender of this President’s policies and most of his actions. But don’t you understand that the BS spread around on the internet like the madrassa school and Thatcher’s non-state funeral only serve to diminish rational arguments?

                • MattMD says:

                  I don’t know what rock you crawled out from under but you have added zero to the comments section today. Why don’t you go and type “class warfare” one more time?

                  • CountPetofi says:

                    I just wish I could contribute as much as you, Matt . Do you mind if i look upon you as an intellectual role model? Please say yes! Pulllleeeze!

  5. saltycracker says:

    Only for a selfie photo op…this administration has never exhibited any propriety, dignity or common sense in international relations and even less domestically rallying behind career criminals and listening to radicals that refuse to pay their taxes.

    This was for the memorial service as didn’t the family ask he stay away from the service in South Africa?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-poses-selfie-nelson-mandelas-memorial-service/story?id=21162957

    • saltycracker says:

      21-7 Ohio

      “…is ate up with stupid” 🙂

      Using terms like middle class that won’t be defined ?
      Demanding an outweighted share of another’s work ?
      Name calling when “ate” up ?
      That’s good will to men ?
      Got it.

  6. CountPetofi says:

    What do mean by good will? Do you mean seizing more and more from those who might earn more to give it to someone who earns less? What has the person done to earn his extra largess? Is this another iteration if the earned income tax credit?

    • MattMD says:

      I have no problem with that. I live in a society, not a tribe.

      I also probably make a hell of a lot more than you yet I don’t scream like some banshee when it comes to taxes or an EITC.

      • Harry says:

        Call me ignorant, but we’d all be better off in a tribe than existing in a regimented society run by distant elitists.

      • TheEiger says:

        And there you go. The self-righteous liberal BS. “I make more than you so listen to me.” The people who really call ourselves the middle class don’t want to see the government rob successful people to pay to buy votes in the next election. Because you know what happens next when more “poor” people ask for a hand out? The middle class gets taken to the cleaners. Not the evil rich people. If you want to pay more in taxes that is great. This April send the feds more of your money. You live in a society and not a tribe right? You “make a hell of a lot more money than us” right? If you want others to do that lead by example my dear doctor. ( I assume that’s what you mean by placing a MD after your name) Shut your mouth and pony up rich man. Until you do that, please stop your liberal talking points and BS.

        • Noway says:

          +1000 Eiger. Dang! Matt keeps getting owned by more and more of the intelligent posters! LOL! He’s the guy who hates those who get inheritance but won’t answer an earlier question as to whether he’ll leave anything for his family when his time has passed. I’m assuming he’ll donate all of his lifetime efforts to the gov’t? Wouldn’t want any people to think negatively of his kids or his wife if they receive his wealth. Stop the insults, Hippocrates and try to say something, anything intelligent. I won’t hold my breath.

      • saltycracker says:

        God love lawyers, CPAs and exotic IRS rules. But rolling the wealth card around here is not a good debate move. So says je suis Charlie.

  7. saltycracker says:

    B

    Thanks for stimulating us. It was rewarding to listen to liberals in the media chastise the admin for not going to Paris as they said it made us look like we think we are better than them.

    While digesting your non-response to multiple requests to define middle class, the inability of the poor to effectively shop like us at, example, Wal-Mart, your leaping on Norway about gouging the poor, got a question:

    When you drive to work and run personal errands, is that in a vehicle you gas up, maintain and write off in your business ?

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