NYT: Hice to the Right of Paul Broun

Georgia 10th District Congressional candidate Jody Hice seems to be making national news yet again. Only this time, it’s the New York Times. In an article about a potential rightward shift for the GOP in the US House of Representatives, the author paints Jody Hice as possibly “even more conservative” than outgoing Congressman Paul Broun. The following is an excerpt from the article:

Then there is Mr. Hice. Having once called evolution a lie from “the pit of hell,” Mr. Broun, the departing representative from Georgia, would be hard to beat on the inflammatory front. But Mr. Hice has a record. He once said of women in politics, “If the woman’s within the authority of her husband, I don’t see a problem. ”

He compared the recent appearance of red “blood moons” to prophecies that preceded the expulsion of the Jews from Spain, Israeli statehood and the Arab-Israeli War of 1967. In a satirical book, he claimed he had found a homosexual agenda to “sodomize your sons” by seducing them “in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms.”

The article also makes mention of Hice’s former comments regarding Muslims not deserving 1st Amendment Constitutional protections, something that Eric has previously reported here.

Just to set the record straight, there needs to be a distinction in national media between “Conservatives” and outright “Xenophobes”. The sad truth is that GOP candidates and elected officials such as Jody Hice only do the conservative cause more harm than good by playing right into the liberal media’s allegations that Republicans hate everything and everyone who is not an old, rich, white, Christian male.

40 comments

  1. gwmac says:

    People have said the GOP-Tea Party civil war is over and establishment Republicans won. Yes and no. They won most (not all) the primaries against Tea Party candidates but at a very steep price. All Republicans have shifted far further to the right and they did this to win primaries. Go back and look at the positions of long serving House and Senate republicans from 10 years ago to their positions today. Very big shift to right wing extremism.

    The GOP Civil War may be over but it sure looks like the Tea Party won.

  2. George Dickel says:

    Ask Jody Hice or any of his supporters what he is and they’ll tell you he’s a Conservative, and most assuredly not a Xenophobe. There are examples in the article of one Republican primary winner calling Hillary Clinton the Antichrist, and another stating that gay teachers would encourage their students to be gay.
    You cannot blame the “liberal” media for perception issues when time and time again Republican primary voters are more than happy to send the mostly white and mostly male candidates who make these inane statements to represent them.

    • Joash Thomas says:

      I agree with you. Although, I do believe it’s a combination of the media’s exaggeration and the GOP’s propensity to field and nominate weird candidates.

    • Jon Lester says:

      So he just has a habit of saying and writing foolish notions without thought? I would guess he says what he thinks he should to keep people coming back to church and tuning into his radio show. Neither prospect bolsters my confidence, quite frankly.

      I don’t think Ken Dious is “all that,” either, but I’ll take my chances.

  3. Bret Dunn says:

    Awesome Article Joash! The fact is the voters of Georgia’s 10th district turned down Mike Collins who is without a doubt far more qualified than Reverend Jody Hice. When people ask where I live and I tell them the 10th district they laugh because of Paul Broun. Well now they may not be able to control that laughter thanks to Reverend Jody Hice.

  4. George Chidi says:

    Thus, the pendulum swings.

    2016 ends this nonsense. Six years of do-nothing right wing insanity in Congress will not survive a high turnout election in 2016, not with six more years of demographic shift to the left paired with six years of increasingly-strident movement to the right by the Republican Party.

    • Bobloblaw says:

      ahhh yes…the one party state driven by demographics. Then we can have utopia.

      I predict that things might not go quite that way. What if after years of being told they are going to be a minority, whites actually starting voting like minorities? Romney got 60% of the white vote. The highest any nonincumbent has ever gotten, 2% more than GW Bush in 2004 and exceeded only by Nixon in 72 and Reagan in 84. What if in say 15-20 years the GOP candidate for Pres regularly gets 70-75% of the white vote? The GOP will have to change some of their positions to appeal to downtrodden whites, like supporting the minimum wage, opposing free trade, not opposing private sector unions. A majority minority Dem party is right around the corner, 2020 at the latest. But a hostile to whites Dem party will make it easy for the GOP.

      I also think that the new Dem party wont have much room for Asians. We’ve already seen in CA, where Asian Dems allied with the GOP to block an attempt to reinstate affirmative action for CA universities.

      • Chet Martin says:

        When minority turnout is high, its usually based on a perception that the current Powers That Be (or challengers, in the case of 2012) do not represent their interests. This is an impossible argument to make in a country in which the vast majority of legislative, executive, and judicial officers are white at a rate exceeding the white percentage of the national population. Add to that the very significant percentage of the white community that supports President Obama, the higher levels of ideological diversity among white Americans (driven by never needing to completely unite under an ideological banner to affect change), and the lack of external forces forcing white Americans together the way Jim Crow forced African Americans together and that scenario is simply unthinkable.

        Not to mention that the idea of a single party owning the white vote should be terrifying to anyone with the slightest knowledge of American history. Why not just serve minority communities better within the context of limited government?

      • George Chidi says:

        White are already voting “like minorities” in Georgia. The races for governor and the senate turn right now on black turnout … and whether Carter and Nunn can capture as much as 30 percent of the white vote.

        If the Republican Party starts crafting policy that addresses economic inequality — assuming they can somehow manage to hold onto the Ayn Rand wing of the party — they’ll pick up more than just some poor whites. A decent candidate would be able to peel away nonwhite voters, too.

        Alas, if it takes 20 years for the GOP to win 75 percent of the white vote nationally … well, in 20 years, whites will only be about 55 per cent of the electorate. That’s not going to cut it. The Republican Party will wander into the political wilderness, and it will change … because it has to. There’s a way between here and there.

        The laughable thing about this is how little the Republican party — elites and grassroots alike — understand how much trouble they’re in.

      • Joash Thomas says:

        Don’t the Democrats just love race and class baiting! And very interesting observation on Asian Americans. As an Asian American Republican myself, I personally believe that the Republican Party should focus more of its time and energies engaging with Asian Americans instead of African Americans. While African Americans tend to be more in the Democratic pocket, Asian Americans generally seem to be more independent each election. Let’s engage with the voters we are more likely to win over. Of all the candidates I have seen this election cycle, it seems to me as if Governor Deal is one of the few candidates that actually gets the logic behind equally engaging with Asian Americans in Georgia.

    • Joash Thomas says:

      George, but then again, you never know. If the Democratic Party could go from the Party that enslaved African Americans and suppressed their Civil Rights to the Party that eventually produced the first Black President, ANYTHING is possible in American Politics!

        • Joash Thomas says:

          So you actually deny that the Democratic Party was the party that enslaved African Americans and suppressed the Civil Rights? I don’t need to watch the documentary, I used to be a History minor so I’m well read in it. Thank you for your concern though.

      • George Chidi says:

        I’ve said this before, and sadly I think I’ll have to say it again. The whole “Democrats are responsible for slavery and fought against civil rights” thing either assumes the person hearing that is stupid enough to be easily misled or is deliberately insulting.

        White southern conservatives fought for slavery, instituted Jim Crow and opposed civil rights legislation. They voted for Democrats before the Civil Rights Act. They moved en masse to the Republican Party after. This is neither mysterious nor seriously disputed. And every time a modern Republican trots out this historically revisionist line it pushes more African Americans into the Democratic column.

        Just … no.

        • Joash Thomas says:

          True as that might be George, my observation was based strictly on party lines and not political ideology. Besides, these pro-segregationist folks in the South did not just “vote for Democrats” but they were the Democratic Party of the South. I think we can both agree on at least that Sir!

          • George Chidi says:

            As utterly irrelevant as the point is, I agree. 50 years ago, the Democratic Party of the south was composed primarily of white conservative pro-segregationists.

            Fifty. Years. Ago.

            I always marvel when conservatives make this observation at how little they have to say about the Republican Party’s modern efforts to fight for racial equality today.

        • Joash Thomas says:

          George, I can offer you another revised example if the African American one is too blurred: If the Democratic Party could go from being the Party that advocated for and led the Internment of Asian Americans during and after World War II to the Party that now captures a good majority of the Asian American vote, anything is possible in American Politics!

          • George Chidi says:

            A shameful episode, but hardly one that lay squarely on the Democratic Party’s shoulders. If there was some grand outcry by the Republican Party against the move during World War II, I am unaware of it. Yes, FDR was a Democrat. So was Jimmy Carter, who ordered a historical investigation and then concluded that reparations should be made.

            The Civil Liberties Act of 1988 authorized the government to pay $20,000 to each person wrongfully interred. It passed with about four out of five Democrats in the house in support … over the objections of about 60 percent of the Republican caucus.

        • Michael Silver says:

          Clever re-direct with false facts. The people that fought a war to preserve slavery were Democrats, not Conservatives. The people who expelled the elected black legislators in 1868 and lynched both white and black Republicans were Democrats, not Conservatives. The authors of Jim Crow and Georgia’s gun laws were Democrats, not Conservatives. The opponents of civil rights were Democrats, not Conservatives.

          Those Democrats didn’t join the Republicans en-masse as you claim. Instead, they remained Democrats and created a dependency culture in the black community that the Democrats could leverage to continue their political power.

          I’d like to think black America is waking up to the devastation that the Democrats and Progressive policies have had on our communities. I take heart that at least some are now speaking out. For example LA State Senator Elbert Guillory made a video exposing the true nature of Democrat leaders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEjqRLjP7Io#t=46

          I challenge you to watch it …. and learn.

          If you want to learn more about YOUR DEMOCRAT PARTY, google “Camilla Massacre”. You’ll see what nice guys the Democrats are.

      • Ellynn says:

        If the Republican Party that was once thought of as hated carpetbaggers, government interfering, overeaching, national forest creating tree huggers, business regulating anti-monolopy thuggs, with ideals of unionizing labor, collective bargaining, the formation of minimum wage, and progressive taxation would eventaly produce a the likes of Hice and Broun, then ANYTHING is possible.

        History needs to be known and studied to understand how we all made it to this point, but in many cases it is not reflective of who we are now as compared to the actions of the past.

    • seenbetrdayz says:

      Likewise, it remains to be seen if 6 years of do-too-much left wing insanity in Congress is going to help the Dems much.

      Just for an example: The ACA was essentially rammed through, and I can tell you that there have been plenty of people show up at the doors of the ER who still can’t afford healthcare because of the deductible hike. It seemed like the hospitals had more money to help indigent patients before Obamacare. Now we’re doing everything we can to cut costs without cutting personnel, but it’s coming. When the patient-provider ratio goes up, quality will suffer, unless you can take care of all your health concerns in a 15-second encounter with your doctor before he has to see the next patient.

      So while the GOP was busy doing . . . nothing. The Dems were busying doing . . . damage. Most sane people would not see ‘doing damage’ as preferable to ‘doing nothing.’

  5. seenbetrdayz says:

    It’d be nice if the GOP could find some fiscally conservative limited-govt’ people who would stop putting their feet in their mouths.

  6. Harry says:

    Sorry, you guys are all wrong, Hice is a great guy. What’s wrong with having some preachers in congress? I think it’s a good thing!

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