Jason Carter’s Nose Grew An Inch–Again

Senator Jason Carter issued a press release Thursday afternoon criticizing Governor Deal’s plan to expand the HOPE scholarship to include four additional technical school programs. Students enrolled in film set design, computer programming, precision manufacturing, and certified engineering assistants will benefit from Governor Deal’s plan.

Sticking with typical Carter fashion, the press release blatantly distorts the truth. Did Governor Deal’s HOPE scholarship reform lead to 45,000 students leaving technical schools? No, but an improving economy had something to do with it.

Senator Carter said in the press release:

“Gov. Deal broke the HOPE Grant and it took an election year for him to care about the devastation he caused,” Carter said. “His failed reforms to the HOPE Grant led 45,000 students to drop out of technical colleges in a single year. That has real economic consequences.

“Over and over again, this governor fails to act until a crisis and bad headlines threaten his reelection. We’ve seen him do it before with rural hospitals, child welfare, transportation and our schools.

“Georgia’s skyrocketing unemployment is a consequence of years of devastating cuts to our schools. Businesses don’t want to invest in a place that’s not investing in its own people, and our workers aren’t being equipped with the skills they need to fill the job openings we do have.”

Moving on, Carter claims businesses are not investing in Georgia because our workers are ill equipped to fill job openings. The four technical school programs Governor Deal proposed to include in the HOPE scholarship are coincidentally equipping students to work in our most rapidly growing job markets.

Governor Deal’s HOPE reform proposal, which enjoyed support from House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams, saved the HOPE scholarship from certain annihilation. Senator Carter’s entire campaign hinges on education reform and name-calling. Perhaps Carter should spend more time explaining the logistics of his education plan rather than attacking the Governor for expanding the HOPE scholarship to more of Georgia’s students.

On that note, I’m going back to studying for my two exams next week.


        • I vocally disagreed with Stacey’s choice in that instance but give her credit for extracting some concessions from what would have otherwise been a 100% Republican plan.

          However it’s kind of silly to think that given the choice between a 90% Republican plan and having a Democratic governor where you could say get a true compromise that Stacey would make the same choice, or that her prior choice before the landscape shifted matters much now.

          While I doubt Carter would make drastic changes to HOPE if he got re-elected, I do know from private conversations that many Republicans in the Senate liked his plan and were it not for major arm twisting from Deal would have preferred it.

          • Charlie says:

            That’s three nice paragraphs to obfuscate the fact that before Gov Deal released his first major policy initiative as Governor, he asked the Minority Leader for her input, accepted her suggestions, and had her full support for his initiative, which David C above then decided to characterize as Republicans going to war via Youtube clip.

            i.e., awesome revisionist history.

            • Yeah but I think he was more replying to the “certain annihilation” point than the actual policy. And it remains that saying the program faced “certain annihilation” is pretty far removed from the facts and that you used to hold college kids to a higher standard when talking about this debate.

    • Additionally while I understand political rhetoric and have no problem with it, it’s not like Jason’s alternative on HOPE wouldn’t have saved it either. The scholarship has some minor long term funding obligation problems, and both Jason Carter and Nathan Deal put out plans that addressed those problems and the math added up.

      Carter’s plan was more about restoring the scholarship to its original mission that voters voted for (helping the less wealthy afford college). Deal’s plan was more about reducing the overall value and turning it into even more of a merit vehicle (even if it would give greater benefits to wealthier people).

      But the idea that it faced certain annihilation? Charlie was pretty harsh on Democratic college kids that used similar rhetoric.

      • saltycracker says:

        “Less than wealthy” Considering the incredible cost of college where would Carter have that line be and with the “wealthy” out, is he planning a further dumbing down process in the merit idea ?
        Or is it, Let the “wealthy” get a student loan ?

        • Deal’s plan was:
          Cuts across the board to everyone. The “Zell Miller Scholars” get full tuition.

          Carter’s plan was (if I remember)…
          Paying for as much as possible each year for everyone whose family makes less than $140,000, and I believe would pay some for the $140k+ crowd if the program had the money that year.

          You may not think $140k/year in household income is “wealthy” and there are certainly richer people but I think someone who comes from a family of $50k household income (the median) needs HOPE more than someone from $140k+ – even if they aren’t wealthy.

          • EAVCandor says:

            Agreed. Although we’re just kicking the can until someone steps up (really more on the federal level) and addresses the circle of death that lowered state funding and the proliferation of federally or privately backed loans have caused the public education system.

          • godsgift says:

            the hope scholarship was made to help the POOR. it is 100% funded by lottery money NOT state funds,. the lottery is mostly funded by the POOR.it was doing great till DEAL,removed the cap,yes it HAD that cap PRIOR to deal.ie carter wants to return it back to when it was SOLVENT. where kids got the money to go to college.by the way 140k is 3 times the avg income.what exactly do you think qualifies for rich?it is far easier for a person making 140k to come up with cash than a person making 18k isn’t it.

        • godsgift says:

          hey salty it is NOT state money is it.it is LOTTERY money.if you want the rich to benefit have the STATE pay for it.the lottery was made to help poor kids go to college.NOT rich. the lttery was dong fine till the right eliminated the income and allowed private colleges. that had more people than the fund could support.IF they wanted to do that they needed to add state money to PAY for the increase,not cut benefits. that helped the rich as they were paying 100% now they get money form the lottery.the was designed to keep the right from out right robbing it,as they did in fla.so they had to come up with a new scheme,ie use to subsidize the rich.

  1. saltycracker says:

    It is concerning when the key points are all about the party ability to gerrymander the districts, register every breathing person that doesn’t know where their precinct is and time for a charity leader/woman…….to bring jobs and throw money at education to a state they say is in crisis.

  2. ohhsweetconcord says:

    I come to Peach Pundit for the diversity of political thought, but something about this piece screams blatant partisanship. It reads like an email from the Deal campaign.

    • Will Durant says:

      And just yesterday we had this complaint: “It looks like the Peach Pundit has dwindled down to a few Democrat partisans.” Must be an election year.

  3. EAVCandor says:

    ” No, but an improving economy had something to do with it.”

    I laughed.

    This sounds like a College Republican just spitting out PR nonsense for the candidate with 1) the best marketing in the campaign or 2) can hook OP up with a post-grad job.

    Wait……..is that what this is??

  4. saltycracker says:

    Interesting lunch – touched on HOPE – two had Freshies on HOPE – one at LSU, one at Ole Miss – how’s that we asked – answer: declare a major not taught in GA system…….
    If that wasn’t BS how many are out of state on HOPE and how many gaming the system in state ?

    • rightofcenter says:

      I think the program you are referring to is the Academic Common Market, which allows for students to qualify for instate tuition at outofstate schools. Google it and you can see the degree programs that qualify. I would be very surprised if these students got HOPE though.

      • saltycracker says:

        That makes more sense so I asked another party there if there was confusing conversation and they meant ACM. The answer was they also get Hope dollars.

        So beats me, all this doesn’t mean conversations are not screwed up, but if true, for most users, this is a sham.

        (I do know directly that Hope will pay for some of a semester abroad for a GA hope student – it’s complex, takes time, but an excellent provision).

  5. saltycracker says:

    don’t know, the joke was the kid couldn’t spell it ….you’ll have to do your own homework….Political Ethics ?

  6. godsgift says:

    the hope was already trashed by the right. HOW is he going to pay for this expansion?the hope is already underfunded thanks to the right.removing income limit,adding private schools. than cutting benefits.WHO did that hurt,the poor,the rich were paying 100% of college now hope covers part.while the poor have to dig up the money to pay for the other part.so yet another expansion and no way to pay for it.what cut benefits again.IF he was so concerned why not have the STATE pay for this expansion.oh wait,that would help people.where is HIS fix of the state health care?highest unemployment in the country,5m in fines for HIS ethics issues.sorry he has done NOTHING to earn being re-elected.

  7. rochej42 says:

    first post. WTF, I just received a robo call from the GA GOP stating that Jason Carter will do away with HOPE. Is this not a blatant lie?

    • Jon Richards says:

      I haven’t heard the robocall, so I don’t know the full context, but I would say that if you turned HOPE into an income based scholarship rather than a merit bases scholarship like it is now, it wouldn’t be the same HOPE.

      • saltycracker says:

        If as guessed here. rich is $140k household, and Hope is N.A. a lot of very bright Georgia kids will attend college elsewhere.

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