Nunn <3s Bush

April 9, 2014 12:55 pm

by Ed · 14 comments

This is a week late but whatever…

ICYMI, Michelle Nunn launched her first TV ad. She wasted no time telling the God-fearing citizens of Georgia of her connections with President George HW Bush.

What an…interesting… way for a Democrat to begin their campaign. This coupled with Jason, the “NRA Democrat”, Carter shows that Democrats are going to continue to use the same old playbooks this year, just as they always have. And why not? I mean, look at all their electoral success this decade!
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Rich April 9, 2014 at 12:59 pm

No more interesting than the republican candidates whose ads suggest they’re running against Obama.

Harry April 9, 2014 at 2:08 pm

Just one more example of how out of touch these folks are.

David C April 9, 2014 at 2:13 pm

George HW Bush at this point is old enough and outside of the day to day political back and forth that he’s mostly looked at as a moderate, get things done person / kindly old man and not a partisan bomb thrower. It’s a smart ad for someone pitching a centrist, moderate problem solver campaign against a nominee that could well be an extremist partisan hack.

General Jack D. Ripper April 9, 2014 at 2:46 pm

Last time George H. W. Bush ran in Georgia, he lost.

David C April 9, 2014 at 3:23 pm

Given Ross Perot’s not running for Senate, not sure how effective that data point is.

Jon Lester April 9, 2014 at 4:22 pm

Yet all the team players seem sure that “turning Georgia blue” will bring progressive change.

northside101 April 9, 2014 at 4:44 pm

David C is absolutely right—no way Clinton would have carried Georgia in 1992 without Perot on ballot. Perot rolled up about 310,000 votes in Georgia, while Bush lost the state to Clinton by just about 14,000—a difference of less than 1 percentage point between Bush and Clinton. As if to prove the point, four years later, Perot got far fewer votes in Georgia, and Dole won the state (though not by much).

Perhaps what Nunn is aiming at–the older voter (over 40). No one under 40 would have much memory of Bush 1 anyway, but younger voters tend to be the low-turnout crowd in a primary, certainly the 18-29 crowd, I suspect true for both parties. I guess trying to show too, she won’t be another Wyche Fowler or Max Cleland, two Senate Democrats who turned out to be more liberal than they let onto the statewide electorate in 1986 and 1996 respectively. But perhaps she should answer the ad about the IRS going through your tax returns to see if you have health insurance (“the right kind”) when I suspect most of us would like to tell them, “none of your business.”

Chris Huttman April 9, 2014 at 5:25 pm

Should she also have an answer about Godzilla and dragons and other things that don’t exist?

seenbetrdayz April 10, 2014 at 8:21 am

Choose to continue to deny it all you want, but the latest report is that the IRS did not target NEARLY as many (if any) ‘progressive’ leaning groups as they did to target ‘conservative’ groups.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/07/committee-staff-report-no-progressive-groups-were-targeted-by-irs/

Look, I don’t care if it’s democrats using the IRS to discourage (or harass) republicans or republicans using the IRS to discourage (or harass) democrats, the IRS’s job is to collect taxes. When it becomes a mere tool to squash political speech and suppress opposition, it deserves no more respect than the USSR’s KGB.

The Last Democrat in Georgia April 9, 2014 at 7:37 pm

Even though he may have served only one term, former President George H.W. Bush is a very well-respected figure across the entire political spectrum. Heck, the man is not just a highly-distinguished veteran of World War II but is also a war hero.

Michelle Nunn (whose father, former U.S. Senator Sam Nunn also was and continues to be very well-respected across the political spectrum) would do well to play up her close connections to such a highly-respected figure on the other side of the aisle.

Besides, if Democrats like Michelle Nunn and Jason Carter were to come out in one of the absolute most-conservative states in the union in Georgia and push a decisively left-wing agenda, they’d likely both lose going away in a landslide in November.

Democrats like Nunn and Carter would do well to go back to the old ways of talking to a conservative electorate and staying away from pushing the type of extreme leftist agenda that is pushed in big Democrat-dominated states like New York, California and Illinois.

The reason why Georgia Democrats have had very little-to-no electoral success in the last decade is not because they’ve been trying to talk to a conservative electorate, but because they stopped all fundraising and let their organization fall into complete oblivion.

David C April 9, 2014 at 9:07 pm

Georgia’s not one of the absolute most conservative states in the union. Have you seen Oklahoma or Wyoming or Kansas? Georgia gave Romney his second smallest margin after North Carolina–something that would make it the 23rd most conservative state in the union. And all those far right states have had moderate to conservative Democratic governors elected in the right set of circumstances over the last decade. (The reverse, of course has also happened in liberal states like Massachusetts, Hawaii, and California, of course, where Republicans picked the right kind of moderate.) Georgia’s a moderate to conservative state, not an extremely conservative one, something the Republican primary electorate can forget to their peril.

You’re dead right on the infrastructure part though. Part of that is recruiting top tier candidates for both races, something that hasn’t really happened since 2002. It doesn’t matter who they’re talking to if nobody can hear them. Isakson hasn’t ever faced a top line Democratic opponent in his Senate races–Mike Thurmond actually raised more money running for labor commissioner than he did running for Senate, which kind of boggles the mind. While Jim Martin outperformed all expectations in 2008, a tougher challenger like Jim Marshall probably could have won the seat in that environment. When Barnes and Cleland lost in 2002 the Democrats still held five other statewide offices, and all but Tommy Irvin were young enough to have political futures. The Dems still had a bench in the state, but all of them failed to capitalize. Cox and Taylor ran each other into the ground running for governor in 2006. Thurbert Baker picked the wrong year to run for Governor when everyone knew he’d be roadkill for Barnes. Thurmond had his quixotic Senate campaign. Not a one of them picked the right race to run or made much of an effort when they did, and between them they let the state party decompose in front of them.

The Last Democrat in Georgia April 9, 2014 at 10:52 pm

You make some excellent points as demographically Georgia may likely be a moderate to conservative state.

But because of the organizational blight of the Georgia Democratic Party and the lack of any meaningful opposition from Georgia Democrats to help keep the largely-unopposed GOP majority on track over much of the last decade, politically Georgia is one of the most-conservative states in the union.

Georgia may have given Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney his second-smallest margin of victory of all of the states that he won in 2012, but with virtually no statewide organization for Georgia Democrats, that second-smallest margin of victory (7.82 percentage points) might as well have been a 20- or 30-point landslide victory for Romney and the GOP.

No matter how much Georgia’s statewide demographics may favor the Democrats (which with racial and ethnic minorities making up about 45% of Georgia’s population, the overwhelmingly GOP-dominated state of Georgia has demographics that are remarkably similar to the Democrat-dominated state of Maryland), those increasingly diverse demographics won’t mean a thing for Georgia Democrats if they have no statewide organization.

With a robust statewide Democratic Party organization, Georgia’s political climate probably looks like that of the Democrat-leaning swing state of Virginia or possibly even the Democrat-dominated state of Maryland.

But with almost the complete lack of a robust statewide Democratic Party organization (or any statewide organization, as has been much the case for Georgia Democrats for the last decade), Georgia’s political climate looks like that of its neighboring Deep South peers in Tennessee, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi.

penguin April 10, 2014 at 7:41 am

strategy: “independents” not quite quick enough to grasp Bush I has not been in office for 20 years. Bipartisanship! Very convincing.

xdog April 10, 2014 at 9:30 am

Nunn’s introducing herself to many folks. She has to mention what she’s been doing for the last 20 years and why not bring up the 1000-points-of-light guy? How many votes he won compared to Perot and Clinton is irrelevant.