This Is No Way To Run A Country: A GA Congressional Delegation Roundup

ICYMI, the government re-opened and averted a default… for about 120 days. #HardWorkPaysOff

Daniel Malloy caught up with members of the Georgia Congressional delegation following the House and Senate votes last night. 

There were some pretty critical statements from all sides on the aisle for a whole bunch of reasons.

“I hope the adults in the room will work out something from a budget standpoint,” said Saxby Chambliss. He also issued a joint statement with Senator Johnny Isakson on the re-opening of the government.

Lynn Westmoreland said: “we all went all in, and we all lost.” He also said he thinks the whole fiasco will hurt Speaker John Boehner.

Tom Graves added: “We’ve been most successful when we stand for–unified–behind what we believe philosophically and policywise. The House is strong in that regard and we’ll continue to do that.

David Scott believes what happened is “unfair to the American people.” “I hope and pray that…we’ve learned a lesson from this and that we will not be, we will never ever again utilize a debt ceiling like this.”

Some good news came from Jack Kingston. He noted the country is philosophically divided. We don’t have a common vision of government. These fights unfortunately are not going to go away.” Yay.

I found official statements from Barrow, Kingston, Price and Woodall on the Senate deal. Only Barrow said he supports the deal. Price is the least happy. All of their full quotes are below.

My headline of course is from the AJC man-on-the-street reaction story. It is also my opinion on our current practice of lurching from “showdown” to “showdown”, creating a spectacle over nothing and having two petulant, pathetic and embarrassing parties in office that have no desire to govern (Republicans) and no ability to do so (Democrats). We’re all screwed and we’re all to blame for electing them. 

John Barrow:

“For over two weeks, the shutdown of the federal government has done serious damage to businesses in the 12th District, cost taxpayers billions of dollars, and jeopardized important benefits for veterans,” said Congressman Barrow.  “While I’m disappointed that this package doesn’t do enough to reduce our deficit, I don’t think that prolonging the shutdown is the way to go.”

“I urge the budget conferees to seize this opportunity to develop a plan that addresses our biggest problem – deficit spending.”

Jack Kingston:

“The drama of the government shutdown and the debt limit debate has served as a distraction from the real debate here.  Our national debt is larger than the size of the entire American economy and government borrows forty-two cents for every dollar it spends.  I opposed this proposal because it does nothing to check the growth of government or put our country on a more sustainable path.

“While I could not support this package, I remain committed to working with Democrats and Republicans alike to advance reforms that will free future generations from a life indebted to China.  We must come together to ensure the next three months are used productively so we are not in this position again.”

Tom Price:

“There’s nothing historic about this agreement. It is the response to a crisis manufactured by the President and a Democrat party content with the nation’s fiscal ruin.

“For weeks, House Republicans have given our colleagues opportunity after opportunity to focus on the real challenges before us – a ballooning debt, a weak economy and a health care law that is contributing to both. Finding positive solutions to those challenges is what the American people elected us to do. That there’s now an agreement in place to talk about how we solve them is a good first step, but one has to wonder why the Democrat majority in Washington needed two weeks of a government shutdown and a run-up to the debt ceiling in order to agree to talk about doing their job.

“We have a $17 trillion national debt and millions of our fellow Americans are out of work or being pushed into part-time jobs. In the talks to come will Democrats continue to defend that status quo? For our part, House Republicans are going to continue to fight to do something about it – to break down barriers to economic growth, to unleash more opportunity and greater financial security for American families. We, as always, welcome our Democrat colleagues to the table to have an honest and healthy discussion focused on solutions. What remains to be seen is whether or not Senate Democrats and President Obama will in the days and weeks ahead embrace the opportunity they claim they want to negotiate and compromise.”

Rob Woodall:

“I’m disappointed that we couldn’t get the White House to the negotiating table on any of the big issues facing America.  I’m disappointed that the Senate continues to stall and delay rather than engage and move solutions forward.  The House stood strong for as long as we had the votes to do so.  We pressed hard for America’s priorities every day.  Over and over again, the House reached out to the Senate and the President to try to find common ground, and each time we were rebuffed.  The result being that American government will continue without change, federal spending will continue on without change, and federal borrowing will increase to more than $17 trillion.  Our children deserve so much better.  I know that since the Senate and the White House disagree with so many of our Georgia priorities that we will not achieve all of our goals, but we can move forward step by step, little by little, and make a difference for America on some of our shared goals.  Now that the shutdown is over, the President has changed his message from ‘I will never negotiate’ to ‘I am happy to negotiate.’  America needs him to keep his word, and I intend to hold him to it.”

30 comments

  1. John Konop says:

    Instead of getting real reforms this is the solution?

    ……….As a lengthy battle over reopening the federal government and extending the debt ceiling came to an end Wednesday night, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s Republican enemies seized on a provision included in the final deal they said was a betrayal of conservative causes.
    The deal contained a $2.8 billion authorization for the Olmstead lock and dam project in Western Kentucky that at first glance appeared to many as McConnell sneaking pork into the last-minute bill. ……….

    Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/10/16/2880179/mitch-mcconnells-enemies-blast.html#storylink=cpy

  2. gcp says:

    Glad to hear career politician Kingston is so concerned about spending when Dems. have the senate and the presidency but where has he been for the rest of his career? The Repubs. should have voted to reopen government and then moved on to other issues such as the farm bill. That’s where they could and should put up a fight.

    My favorite interview of the night was Senator trick knee Chambliss on Kudlow saying we needed to reform entitlements. Yes, Senator trick knee talking about entitlement reform. Where has he been for the past 20 years? Maybe he could reconstitute his famous gang of six or eight or whatever. It was just so successful the last time.

  3. DavidTC says:

    It is also my opinion on our current practice of lurching from “showdown” to “showdown”, creating a spectacle over nothing and having two petulant, pathetic and embarrassing parties in office that have no desire to govern (Republicans) and no ability to do so (Democrats). We’re all screwed and we’re all to blame for electing them.

    And the next step for everyone is to realize there’s a really good reason the Democrats have ‘no ability to govern’. Namely, it is impossible to govern without a House of Representatives that behaves in some sort of rational manner.

    Remember, everyone, the gridlock in Washington is due to both parties: A party deliberately attempting to break the government, and a party unable, thanks to the structure of government, to prevent the other party from breaking the government. Both sides are to blame!

    • Three Jack says:

      Yea because the prez and his senate have been so rational.

      There is plenty of blame to go around, same as every other time we go through these ridiculous rituals that allow all the pols to grab some air time while diverting attention from the real issues. You can blame the house, GOPers will blame Reid, the prez and GOP leaders while dems will blame Ted Cruz. What is this accomplishing?

      So now we are left with another super-like committee headed by ultra lib Patty Murray and Paul Ryan. Any bets on them actually coming out with a plan that can pass either house? Myself, I bet we will be right back in this same situation come late January, 2014.

      • benevolus says:

        What is this (blame) accomplishing? It’s going to be hard to anything differently unless somebody admits to a mistake. If everyone thinks they were right then we’ll be doing it all over again.

  4. Harry says:

    It’s easy to see the end of this irresponsibility, because it’s happened before in other countries. All the nonproductive classes will have the real value of their entitlement payments being reduced by inflation year by year. Let’s say the official COLA is 2% but real printed dollar inflation is 6%. Within a few years the real value of government benefits has decreased by 50% or 100% while the marginal cost of retaining the benefits (cost of time and travel to the welfare office etc.) has increased, so the benefits have decreased net value. Meanwhile, the productive class, even with official price controls and currency restrictions, are charging full bore for their products and services which cannot otherwise be provided to the masses by inept government. And all the while, the slugs will be blaming everybody but themselves for their condition.

  5. Trey A. says:

    Final roundup on the votes: Saxby, Johnny and all the Georgia Dems in the House voted for it. All the Georgia GOPers in the House voted against, at least according to WaPo.

  6. Dave Bearse says:

    42 repeal votes, then shut down of the government with the threat of default, yet nary a mention of Obamacare except for Price’s nominal reference.

    GOP fiscal conservatism and job creation?

    Pissing away tens of billions, and knocking 0.6% off GDP, speaks louder than words.

  7. George Chidi says:

    Let’s get Hank Johnson’s statement in here. Andy Phelan sent it to me this afternoon.

    “The end of the Republican shutdown and default-threatening debacle shows that shutting down the government and threatening national default should never be used as a political weapon and must be rejected at every turn. If those who helped engineer the shutdown and threatened a default had achieved their policy goals, our political system would be forever weakened and our economy – and global markets – unnecessarily damaged. It’s time to move forward together pursuing policies that help grow the economy, increase opportunities and reduce inequality – otherwise we will be right back in this same reckless hostage-taking mode that is the enemy of reason and common-sense.”

  8. Rick Day says:

    Allow me to don my tin foil hat…

    *dons*

    Now, what major story and consternation was going on RIGHT before all this political smoke screening of an economic ‘catastrophe’ took away everyone’s attention?

    You don’t have to have Halloween in order to have spooks.

    Meanwhile…at NSA headquarters….

  9. northside101 says:

    Who REALLY is to blame for the recent shutdown?
    Not Ted Cruz or John Boehner, or the Tea Party
    Not Nancy Pelosi
    Not el presidente
    Not (the very evil) Harry Reid (though it doesn’t give me much confidence in Nevada voters that he has been elected 5 times, even if narrowly sometimes)
    Not other members of the very liberal Senate leadership (take your pick of Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer, Patty Murray, etc.)
    How about (drums please!!!)….JOHN ROBERTS?!?!?

    If he had merely provided the extra vote needed to send Obamacare to the gutter—ONE MERE VOTE!!! But noooooooooo…………he felt like he had a divine calling to “be conciliatory”. Probably one of the most decisive 5-4 rulings ever on the Supreme Court. And we’ll be paying (pun intended) for that decision for decades. Certainly one of the worst decisions the second President Bush ever made—even if he had just appointed him as an associate justice (instead of a chief justice), that would have been better. (Maybe as bad an appointment as Nixon’s Harry Blackmun, who gave us the terribly flawed ROE decision that unleashed the abortion mills, as is evident tens of millions of abortions later).

    Thus, if Roberts had not taken a “living, breathing” document view of the Constitution (the view liberals like), Congress would have been debating something else for the last few weeks. And back here in Georgia, we’d be more focused on where Georgia goes from here (in football), how long Paul Johnson will last at Georgia Tech,,,and whether the Falcons season can be salvaged…..

    • John Konop says:

      Northside 101,

      I am going for it…..Paul Johnson is history, and Falcons are dead in the water, and should try to get any value they can for White and Gonzales for re-tooling next year. 🙂

    • benevolus says:

      You think this fight was about Obamacare?
      If Obamacare was not the law, wouldn’t these same people be fighting the same battle, but with a different subject? Of course they would.

  10. seekingtounderstand says:

    Did anyone see the news that IBM and other tech companies are having foreign companies no longer wanting their products?
    Our Government spy policies have cost us another leading industry. Why not talk about that great consequence.
    BTW Did the government run out of money months ago and they raided the retirement funds of federal workers? Did that really happen?
    Obamacare for you but not the elite. Is this the republican plan for elections? How is the Gop going to win elections after they where so ugly to the tea party people?

    • John Konop says:

      IBM is down because of bad strategy via the Unix platform……

      …………“The biggest issue this quarter was hardware sales in growth markets. At 25 percent of revenue, the 9 percent decline in growth markets is difficult to offset. Specifically, hardware sales in China almost halved, taking China revenue down 22 percent. A related issue is the almost $1bn decline year-to-date in hardware profit—servers and storage are under pressure, especially the high-margin Power line.”

      To be fair, the hardware category has been a basket case for most server makers for some time now but IBM all by itself has seen a $1 billion decline year-to-date in hardware profit, according to UBS.

      “Servers and storage are under pressure especially the high-margin Power line,” Milunovich wrote……………..

      ……..“has significant exposure to hardware, and uniquely to UNIX hardware, which is declining precipitously (-37% YoY at constant currency); second, IBM’s growth markets massively underperformed, most of which we believe is attributable to IBM specific/management issues.”
      Brand-name server makers — IBM, Hewlett Packard, Oracle — have all been squeezed for more than a year as they face stiffer competition from makers of low-cost, no-name servers which are gaining traction in big webscale data centers. Check out the most recent quarterly revenue and shipment numbers from Gartner if you need further evidence of this…………………

      http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/gigaom/articles/2013_10_17_for_ibm_hardware_news_is_bad_news.html

      WHY IBM IS GETTING KILLED

      ….. Unix, the core server operating system in enterprise networks for decades, now finds itself in a slow, inexorable decline. IDC predicts that Unix server revenue will slide from $10.2 billion in 2012 to $8.7 billion in 2017, and Gartner sees Unix market share slipping from 16% in 2012 to 9% in 2017.

      Jean Bozman, research vice president at IDC Enterprise Server Group, attributes the decline to platform migration issue……

      http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/081913-unix-272728.html

    • benevolus says:

      “How is the Gop going to win elections after they where so ugly to the tea party people?”

      That is hilarious.
      I admire the chutzpah though!

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