Poll: Georgians Blame Democrats For Shutdown, Want ACA Repealed Or Delayed

October 2, 2013 22:29 pm

by Buzz Brockway · 38 comments

A new Landmark/RosettaStone poll conducted yesterday of 1000 registered voters says 46% of Georgians blame Democrats for the partial federal government shutdown, 39% blame Republicans. More (received via press release):

The numbers among self described independents is more informative, with Independent voters blaming the Democrats by an aggregated margin of 53%-29%. 17% of Independent voters also surveyed say they think “all sides” share some of the blame.

The survey also asked voter opinion of the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare. 56% of Georgia voters say they want Obamacare either “de-funded” or “delayed by one year.” Only 33% of the Georgia voters surveyed say they want Obamacare to be “fully funded and implemented.”

Discuss.

peachpundit (@peachpundit) October 2, 2013 at 10:29 pm

New post: Poll: Georgians Blame Democrats For Shutdown, Want ACA Repealed Or Delayed http://t.co/llAjwC7nAL #gapol

Baker October 2, 2013 at 10:45 pm

How do they assure “Independents”? I know there are a boatload of Tea Party folks in Gwinnett, Cobb, and surely lots of other of the 159 that would hate to call themselves Republican these days.

Dave Emanuel October 2, 2013 at 10:49 pm

The independent voters have a point– all sides share some blame for the shut down. The Democrats are to blame because they won’t consider anything other than their current position; Republicans are to blame because they won’t abandon their principles. You can spin that any way you like, yet the fiscal realities of the Affordable Care Act are diametrically opposed to the principles of reduced government intrusion, lower taxes and protection of freedoms.

Scott65 October 3, 2013 at 10:26 am

Thats bullshyt and you know it. One side is to blame …Republicans. I know its hard to wrap your small mind around the fact that republicans are holding government hostage because people who previously are uninsured just might get insurance, but thats what we’re talking about. Trying to subvert US law…and yes, its the law. Say goodbye TP…this is going to be the end of you and I and the majority of Americans say GOOD RIDDANCE!

Noway October 3, 2013 at 12:27 pm

Scoot, do you think it’s right that some people (congress staff), institutions (unions), organizations (McDonald’s) get exemptions from Obamacare? Or do you think it’s beneficial to make people convert to part time so companies can avoid bankruptcy that would accompany Obamacare?

Scott65 October 3, 2013 at 2:36 pm

There is no evidence that what you say is or will happen…its the law…deal with it. Even though Ralph wont
http://youtu.be/Utp9VTzbSWk

Noway October 3, 2013 at 3:29 pm

So, you’re saying exemptions weren’t granted and companies aren’t downsizing to survive the law?

Scott65 October 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm

I think its wrong to act like a toddler having a tantrum and shutting down the government because you dont like a law that has been vetted more than any I can remember. I didnt speak to any of those things which is moot…and not worth shutting down government…and 70+ % of Americans agree with me. Republicans hate that Obamacare might work…and in desperation have shut down the government. Its a loser…and we will see how big in 2014

Dave Emanuel October 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Scott65, whenever someone replies with a personal insult, as you have, it speaks volumes about your political leanings and the fact that you don’t have anything of consequence to say.

Scott65 October 3, 2013 at 2:37 pm

no it speaks to the anger I have with holier than thou who wish poor people would just drop dead…so if you dont like insults…dont earn them

akravitz October 3, 2013 at 4:35 pm

Dave Emanuel deserves all the criticism he gets. I see the way you behave in Snellville City Council meetings and it is the same childish behavior that the Republicans have in Congress. There is only 1 party to blame for this and that is the Republicans and only the Republicans.

Scott65 October 3, 2013 at 2:38 pm

thats nice…just so condescending and dismissive…its still the law, and you still have to abide by it…I think thats of consequence.

Noway October 3, 2013 at 3:34 pm

Scott, laws are change and amended all the time. Obama himself has issued waivers and those certainly were not in the original law he signed. He even gave businesses a year reprieve. That wasn’t in the original law either. What’s your response to that?

Noway October 3, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Scott, since you libs are always interested in FAIRNESS, don’t you think everyone ought to have to get Obamacare, seeing how it is the law of the land? Why are some worthy of a waiver and just out of curiosity, why did many, included your beloved unions, ask for waivers?

benevolus October 3, 2013 at 12:29 pm

The Democrats have considered 45 Republican bills about ACA. If the Republicans want to bring it up again I am sure the Dems will vote on it again.

Harry October 2, 2013 at 11:28 pm
@ItsBarryYo October 2, 2013 at 11:41 pm

@instapundit @KatiePavlich POLL: Georgians blame Dems for shutdown: http://t.co/vzyuOeCC5i

Toxic Avenger October 3, 2013 at 12:10 am

I’d love to see the actual poll.

@FR_Newbrough October 3, 2013 at 1:39 am

Democrats get the blame for Govt shutdown in Georgia poll. #Shutdown
http://t.co/CLSmGbbVPp #DefundObamacare

MattMD October 3, 2013 at 2:05 am

I’m done with it. Bring on single payer.

Georgia will be a marginalized state in 10-15 years, you know, like it always has been. Meanwhile, California will come back.

Nothing delivers like money, investment and a dynamic economy.

seenbetrdayz October 3, 2013 at 8:24 am

Highly unlikely that Cali will come back (I’m not saying GA will have a booming economy, either.), but to their credit, they did just recently nullify the NDAA in that state—which is weird. California passes a bill into law to nullify NDAA 1021, with a democrat in the White House; it seems like something GA legislators would be chomping at the bit to do.

@Vision4USA October 3, 2013 at 2:06 am

Poll: Georgians Blame Democrats For Government Shutdown! http://t.co/AMVbvDQ10U #TCOT

@Vision4USA October 3, 2013 at 2:14 am

Obama / Reid wanted a shutdown to blame republicans. Americans can see the truth. The tide is turning! http://t.co/AMVbvDQ10U #TCOT

@Vision4USA October 3, 2013 at 2:17 am

Obama / Reid wanted a shutdown to blame republicans. It will backfire! http://t.co/AMVbvDQ10U #TCOT

@TalkSouthRadio October 3, 2013 at 5:22 am

Poll: Folks in Georgia blame Democrats for the shutdown. http://t.co/wumeLcrl7T I wonder if Chambliss and Isakson have seen this.

NoTeabagging October 3, 2013 at 9:17 am

Survey says, Landmark/RosettaStone pollsters are Republicans. IMNSHO Their poll results are typically skewed toward a certain bias. It doesn’t take a poll to see blame on both sides of the playing field.

CJBear71 October 3, 2013 at 9:31 am

I do find it weird that the states forgoing Medicaid are so casually dismissing the economic impact it will have on their states. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that over the next 10 years, the states not expanding Medicaid will be skipping out on $345 Billion (with a B) in health care dollars flowing into their states. With cost savings from less uncompensated care, those states would have to invest $17 Billion over that same 10 years, only 5% of the total inflow.

For Georgia – we’ll be skipping out on $33 Billion and only have to invest $1.8 Billion.

It’s valid to ask whether we can afford the $1.8 Billion, but skipping $33 Billion is a lot of money that won’t be flowing through our hospitals, clinics, doctors offices, and pharmacies. And Blue states (and a few Mid-West Red states) won’t be skipping on that money.

Some jobs and population will shift to those states. It will be interesting to see if such shifts finally start costing Southern states political power in lost Congressional seats in the next Census.

seenbetrdayz October 3, 2013 at 12:11 pm

If you want to see how expansion of Medicaid would play out, see our neighbor South Carolina. That is a state whose legislators took the former governor to court, to force an acceptance of Medicaid money from the federal government, only to later discover that the obligations that came with that money (because nothing from Washington comes without strings attached) sunk the state of SC into even deeper obligations than it had before.

The SC legislature wanted the quick-and-easy way to fund Medicaid, and there’s nothing more quick-and-easy than accepting “free” money, but it ended up costing them the ability to control the pool years later.

South Carolina has a population of about 4 and a half million, and 1 million people are on Medicaid.

South Carolina state senator Tom Davis explains:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjYiQRf_YtY

SteveP October 3, 2013 at 9:35 am

You really trust Landmark and Rosetta Stone? Good lord why not ask for the crosstabs and the full questions and the demographics and the mthodology underlying the sample.

NoTeabagging October 3, 2013 at 11:07 am

I never trust alleged poll results without seeing the questions either.

Stacey Hopkins October 3, 2013 at 10:21 am

For those who pledge such fierce allegiance to the Constitution, it baffles me to see and hear the continued objection, when this was legislation that passed the U.S. House and Senate and upheld by the Supreme Court.

The issue of funding the nation is the real issue. What we are seeing is a monumental hissy fit by a small fraction of the legislative branch that is as Chris Matthews put in on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, “Taking the money and demanding the baby.”

No, Democrats cannot and will not take the blame on this, as it was the GOP who refused to negotiate on anything other than 100% of what they wanted and blocked any attempt to create a budget conference. This is supposed to be about funding the government, right? It was the GOP who gleefully decided to shutdown the government years ago as a way to get what they wanted – elections be damned – and despite what the nation voted for. Yes, I know. The GOP retained the House, but that was only because of gerrymandered districts that protects elected members from any consequences and has mistakenly led many to think they are actually speaking for all Americans as well as their constituents. They aren’t and I don’t think there’s an understanding when you reach the congressional level, you have two sets of constituents. Your district AND the American people, as a whole, as you’re making decisions that affect all.

This is all political kabuki theater, but the least I’d like to see is the GOP own what they themselves created and not try to shift the blame on what they sought by trying to say “both sides are responsible” now that the winds of public opinion aren’t blowing in your direction. Even members of the GOP have lamented about the misguided nature of Cruz’ shutdown strategy and now there’s no endgame to get out. That’s now the Democrats’ fault?

The GOP got five years of compromise; the time of governing by perpetual and manufactured crises must end as that is not what governance looks like and I’m sure what some conservatives in Georgia don’t stand for.

On the other hand, do they?

DeKalb Wonkette October 3, 2013 at 11:06 am

I would be very heartened by the findings of this poll if the cross tabs and methodology were published. Until then, it falls into my “speculation” column.

2 cents: Both Dems and GOP need to end their respective my-way-or-the-highway positions. This politico article published yesterday outlines how we got here although the Iraq war is also a likely antecedent. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/government-shutdown-barack-obama-obamacare-aca-97687.html

2 more cents: As long a Obama and congressional Dems overreach and refuse to negotiate, the more likely it is that reasonable GOP lawmakers will be replaced by unreasonable ones.

benevolus October 3, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Dems have voted on Obamacare 45 times this year. Those bills all failed, so now Dems are supposed to negotiate it?

Noway October 3, 2013 at 1:45 pm

Love that toll free number for Obamacare! (1-800-f***yo) The Socialists are rubbing the noses of the majority of Americans in it. Coincidence?

Scott65 October 3, 2013 at 2:45 pm

private insurance from private companies…oh the socialism…you would not know what socialism was if it bit you on the behind…in fact, better stop watching football…its socialist you know (by definition…the NFL splitting profits evenly between franchises…taking money from one and giving it to another)

Three Jack October 3, 2013 at 3:34 pm

Scott, the NFL scenario of revenue sharing was agreed upon by all 32 owners of the individual teams. It can be more correctly defined as voluntary redistribution, not socialism.

On the other hand, ObamaRobertsCare is forced redistribution under the law or face financial penalties. I would call it extortion, but socialism will do for this thread.

seenbetrdayz October 3, 2013 at 4:37 pm

Scott’s right, actually. It’s not socialism. Government granting special privileges to private corporations is not socialism, it’s fascism.

Of course, that doesn’t make the position of O-care supporters any better, but I do think opponents of O-care should call it what it is.

Noway October 3, 2013 at 3:41 pm

Scott, I have to admit, you’re more fussy than usual. Make yourself feel better and try and work in your theory that having a 17 trillion dollar debt is just fine because we’re a sovereign nation that can print all the money it wants! LOL!

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