Deal Issues Statement On Common Core

Governor Deal issued an Executive Order today aimed at calming fears about the Common Core standards. The order says that no educational standards shall be forced on the State by the Federal government and that no personally identifiable student information shall be shared with the Federal government.

The Governor held a press conference to announce the EO and the AJC was there.

“We are concerned about the future of education in the state of Georgia,” Deal said at a Capitol news conference. “Curriculum has been and will remain a local decision.”

Deal sought to clarify that standards are not the same as curriculums, which are decided by individual school boards throughout Georgia.

He was joined by state Superintendent John Barge, who backs the Common Core standards, and Republican legislators on both sides of the issue.

Senator William Ligon issued a statement in response:

“Now it’s up to the Georgia Legislature to pick-up where the Governor left off. The Georgia State Legislature represents the will of the people and they are asking us to pass legislation to withdraw Georgia from the Common Core, the national assessments, and the intrusive tracking of student data.

“Georgia must reassert its constitutional autonomy over education, and I intend to work tirelessly with my colleagues in the General Assembly to move our state towards a more transparent, democratic process of developing statewide curriculum standards.”

Other posts on this topic:
Harper: Common Core Is Now A Common Enemy of Conservatives
Sen. Fran Millar: Common Core Makes Sense
Sen. William Ligon: Op Ed: Educational Accountability Should Be Local, Not Federal

31 comments

  1. James says:

    “Georgia must reassert its constitutional autonomy over education . . . .” Um, we’re in the mid- to high-forties in SAT scores and graduation rates. Brunswick, home to Senator Ligon, has a 66% high school graduation rate, which is lower than the Georgia average. Maybe we should give more “autonomy” to people who actually know what they are doing.

    • John Konop says:

      Not true, if you normalize scores relative to the percentage of kids taking the SAT we are in the upper 50 percent…….most states do not nearly have the range of kids via aptitude taking the test.

      Our top tier students perform as well as any part of the country within a reasonable range. I Q was designed as an aptitude test during ww1 to sort people via skills for the military. We as a country have miss-used the testing system to be a one size fit all testing system ie 4 year college bound or out.

      Graduation rates would be higher if moved toward an aptitude based education system…..over one size fit all….in fact this was tested in a school district around Macon and it was very succeessful.

      I do think core standards for core subject like math, science….is important. Yet the standards should be based on aptitude…….should it be a requirement for the person that cuts your hair to do algebra 2 to ge a degree? Should an auto mechanic be required to read Shakespeare?…….

      If you think the above should not be required based on aptitude/education direction, should not the standards match which direction you go in life via education? Do we require lawyers to take the CPA test? Doctors to take the BAR……..

      • James says:

        “If you normalize scores relative to the percentage of kids taking the SAT” — I’m not sure what this means, but that’s not what I was talking about. The stat I discussed was average SAT scores, and ours suck.

        It sounds like you’re complaining that dumb kids skew the results. That’s exactly my point — based on the data, it sounds like we have a lot of dumb kids. That’s a problem.

        • mpierce says:

          It’s based on the idea that the top students take the SAT. So you are comparing the top 74% of Georgia’s graduates vs 47% of the top students nationally (based on 2009-10 numbers). Top students from other states who decide to only take the ACT complicates the normalization.

          Unfortunately, comparing Georgia to states (and D.C.) with high participation rates we don’t fair much better.

          State Participation% score
          New Hampshire : 77% 1554
          Massachusetts : 86% 1547
          Connecticut : 84% 1536
          New Jersey : 76% 1506
          Maryland : 70% 1502
          Pennsylvania : 71% 1473
          Delaware : 71% 1469
          New York : 85% 1461
          Georgia : 74% 1453
          District of Columbia : 76% 1404
          Maine: 92% 1389

          http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d10/tables/dt10_154.asp

            • mpierce says:

              When you’re taking averages with sample sizes in the tens of thousands, 4% is material. Regardless I wouldn’t consider 9th out of 11 as “upper 50 percent”

              • mpierce says:

                Here is the same list with 2008-09 results added. You can see the similarity of the results. If 100 points wasn’t significant one would expect much more variance.

                New Hampshire : 75% 1554 1556
                Massachusetts : 84% 1547 1550
                Connecticut : 83% 1536 1534
                New Jersey : 76% 1506 1505
                Maryland : 69% 1502 1497
                Pennsylvania : 71% 1473 1477
                Delaware : 71% 1469 1477
                New York : 85% 1461 1465
                Georgia : 71% 1453 1460
                Maine: 90% 1389 1390
                District of Columbia : 79% 1404 1378

        • John Konop says:

          James,

          In all due respect, people that have your atitude about aptitude is the problem…..as I said IQ testing is about aptitude not intelligence…..the guy who fixes my car is smarter than me when it comes to his or her skill…..the same for welders…….I respect all the people who work for me via their skill sets……

  2. mpierce says:

    The order says that no educational standards shall be forced on the State by the Federal government

    Useless. NCLB wasn’t forced on the state either. The feds take funds from the people and then hold them hostage (as Dems like to say) allowing us to use the money if we do what they say.

  3. reinvent_ed says:

    MPierce, that’s how funding works. When you get a grant, you follow the rules in order to keep the grant. Fed funding is a very small % of what school districts get anyway. I suggest you also read the Common Core: http://www.corestandards.org

    Read the “myth vs fact” section. Moral of the story is that one should not blog about a topic unless they have researched the issue, not believe the propaganda that politicians spew out on a regular basis.

    • mpierce says:

      that’s how funding works.

      That’s how coercion works. What part of my statements above was false?

    • Freedom Mom says:

      There are a good bit of Progressive Big Government Republicans who support Common Core. Just because someone is a “republican” it doesn’t make them conservative. TRUE conservatives do their own thinking. They don’t just blindly support what elected officials tell them to support. Conservatives form their own opinions. TRUE conservatives know better then to support Common Core!

      • taylor says:

        “TRUE conservatives do their own thinking. They don’t just blindly support what elected officials tell them to support. Conservatives form their own opinions.”

        Are you kidding me? They may not blindly support elected officials, but I see little evidence of doing their own thinking. I rarely see original thoughts from those who proclaim to be true conservatives; their more likely to parrot comments from a handful of conservative outlets or pundits. It’s the thinking conservatives who are vilified for daring to think, instead of waiting for marching orders from those in the media who make millions off controversy.

  4. reinvent_ed says:

    What is false is that the Fed “holds states hostage.” That comes from your Jeffersonian, “tea party” ideology, no?

    • Freedom Mom says:

      Why so critical of the Tea Party ideology? It’s that ideology made this country the most free, most prosperous country in the world! All the TEA PARTY wants to do is uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. To continue to make this country the most free and most prosperous!!

  5. reinvent_ed says:

    The Tea Party is bastardizing what the Boston Tea Party was all about. It’s a paradox that this group has the nerve to insult our nation’s history. The original tea party was about “taxation without representation.” I don’t see how that fits what the modern Tea Party is all about. It’s an abomination, and is 100% counter to what the revolutionists in Boston were fighting for.

    The Tea Party is all about racial lines, divisiveness, and undermining what our Republic is all about. It’s about secession and anarchy, and it churns my stomach thinking about it. The Tea Party is seeking to destroy the soul of our nation and unhinge the very foundation of our form of government. Research our history, Freedom Mom, et al. Your so called “party” includes a woman named Michelle Bachmann who is on record stating that slavery was resolved during the American Revolution. How stupid can you get? So I call the Tea Party the party of ignorant, unqualified candidates for public office!

      • mpierce says:

        Or you could think the Tea Party is about anarchy, racial lines, and undermining our Republic.

    • Freedom Mom says:

      Your ignorance regarding the Tea Party of today is astounding.

      Funny – how you are so quick to make allegations of dirty, malicious politics of the past… but you can not identify them happening right in front of you today!

    • reinvent_ed – you need to get out more. I know a number of people in a variety of different tea parties. I can assure you that they are not “all about racial lines, divisiveness, and undermining what our Republic is all about”.

    • Your view of the Tea Party couldn’t be more incorrect. I oppose almost every proposed or enacted policy of Obama, does that make me racist? If those same policies were from Gore or Kerry, etc I would still oppose them.

      If all you have is to cry racist then find a rock to climb under, or better yet look at something besides MSNBC.

      P.S. Which president said there are 56 states?

  6. reinvent_ed says:

    Harry – not to have a history lesson here, but Jefferson was also someone who should have been impeached for treason – not only for being insubordinate to President Washington (called him “senile” on numerous occasions) but also being the playmaker in the infamous “XYZ Affair.”

    Jefferson was a proponent of education for sure, but his politics were dirty and malicious. He almost put us into another war in the late 1790s that would have destroyed our fragile union. Only the courage of President John Adams making a courageous, unpopular decision to not enter into another war saved our Union, while killing any hopes of Adams being re-elected.

  7. reinvent_ed says:

    The Tea Party is a cult – period. Moving onto other topics. I find this debate to me below my standards of decency.

  8. Dave Bearse says:

    It’s clear that Georgia is awash with RINOs like Deal when even the RNC unanimously opposes Common Core.

    http://education-curriculum-reform-government-schools.org/w/2013/05/republicans-divided-over-common-core-standard/

    “Unfortunately, it’s been too much about politics. Too many people in our country … are looking to fight someone for the sake of fighting.” — Swishy lib Michigan Governor Synder

    The party of No, expanding its tent with every rightward move.

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