2008 Indiana Election Fraud Convictions Add Fuel to the Fire

May 15, 2013 20:42 pm

by Obi's Sister · 12 comments

Not Georgia, not that it couldn’t have happened here as well.

Former longtime St. Joseph County Democratic party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. was found guilty of felony conspiracy counts to commit petition fraud and forgery, and former county Board of Elections worker Dustin Blythe was found guilty of felony forgery counts and falsely making a petition, after being accused of faking petitions that enabled Obama, then an Illinois Senator, to get on the presidential primary ballot for his first run for the White House.

Read it all.

BTW, Indiana has 11 electoral votes.

Chris Huttman May 15, 2013 at 8:49 pm

Well this couldn’t happen here because we don’t have a petition process for party candidates and let me say thank God for that since they are a joke everywhere they have them.

Toxic Avenger May 16, 2013 at 12:56 am

What he said. The fact that you’re spending half an instant on this perpetuating the GOP Voter Fraud Myth, while failing to indicate a single instance of voter fraud, is pathetic.

Sorry, I have to call it like I see it. Good try. Better luck next time.

Noway May 16, 2013 at 5:51 am

The convictions sound pretty non-mythical.

David Staples May 16, 2013 at 10:58 am

Don’t you mean we don’t have a petition process for major party candidates? After all, the LP has to petition to run for any non-statewide partisan race in Georgia that isn’t a special election. Independent and other third party candidates have to petition for any partisan race that isn’t a special election.

Chris Huttman May 16, 2013 at 2:45 pm

That’s a good point – and when it doesn’t concern the two major parties it is a joke, but on the opposite end of the joke spectrum, in that it’s sad how difficult it is.

Some other states I’ve worked in where the parties have petition processes, the parties typically take the petition sheets, lock them in an Iron Mountain somewhere and qualify the people without checking, because it’s statutory but it is not the way any party would choose to operate these days.

Of course, I’d prefer we just switch to letting anyone qualify if they pay the fee and universal ballot access – similar to what we do in a special election. Also either getting rid of the runoff threshold or switching to instant runoff voting – including the option of just voting for one candidate and skipping the runoff if that’s what you prefer.

Doug Deal May 17, 2013 at 6:19 am

As long as it requires a majority to win an election, I am in favor of universal access for a set “reasonable” qualification fee (probably what it is now). High enough to discourage frivolous candidates, but low enough to not be a barrier to entry to a serious one.

This would mean probably having an battle royale type of primary acting as a first round of voting and a single runoff to the two top vote getters which may be from the same party.

xdog May 15, 2013 at 9:43 pm

What do you expect in a donk stronghold like Indiana?

Chris Huttman May 16, 2013 at 1:29 am

In re the 11 votes how many electoral votes did Obama win by (hint: more than 11).

Chris Huttman May 16, 2013 at 1:47 am

Speaking of 2008, John McCain qualified for a number of state primary ballots by saying he would opt in to public financing – many states automatically qualify any candidate who can achieve this and being relieved of the burden of multiple qualifying burdens is one of the incentives for being in the public system. So McCain didn’t do the other work to qualify for those states. Then after the fact he opted out of the public financing which if he had done that from the start he wouldn’t have qualified for those states or would have had to do the extra work. Now, if most states would just do it like Georgia and let the executive committee of each party submit the list of candidates to the Secretary of State neither McCain nor the Indiana Democrats would have to go to the trouble of doing all this nonsense. At the end of the day it is almost impossible for conceive of a judge kicking either of the candidates off the ballot anyway as judges almost always prefer to leave decisions of qualifications to the much larger pool of voters.

Dave Bearse May 16, 2013 at 9:39 am

Here in Georgia, the ostensibly anti-fraud voter photo ID law loosened restrictions on absentee ballots that had a well-established history of fraud.

Any update on the dozen people charged in November 2011 in connection with 1,000 fraudulent Brooks County absentee ballots? http://bainbridgega.com/news/publish/112711voterfraud.shtml

No doubt our vigilant General Assembly is simply awaits knowledge of all of the facts in this extremely complicated and intricate plot before taking action to restrict access to ID-less absentee ballots in response to actual and substantial ballot fraud. Snark.

xdog May 16, 2013 at 8:19 pm

Thanks Dave, that’s an interesting story down there in Brooks.

Dave Bearse May 18, 2013 at 3:33 pm

Leave it along, maybe it will go away. That seems to be the case with a 2011 ethics complaint pending (as far as I know) concerning Speaker Ralston.

The Transparency Commission isn’t so transparent on its website with respect to listing pending complaints, or results of the disposition of any complaints since 2010.

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