Kingston In The US Senate Race

February 16, 2013 13:00 pm

by Buzz Brockway · 25 comments

Via Twitter and confirmed by a second source who was present.


Samuel February 16, 2013 at 5:10 pm

This is great news! Now, in addtion to Paul Broun, if all of Georgia’s other GOP Congressmen would join in the fun and agree to hold at least 10-20 televised GOP Primary debates, we Georgians could be in for some fun next year. The added fringe benefit would be an entirely new congressional delegation for Georgia in 2014. Let the fun begin.

Mrs. Adam Kornstein February 16, 2013 at 5:18 pm

Whatever happened to those elaborate announcement events in the town squares with red/white/blue balloons, mom, apple pie and a local HS Marching Band?

I think the last one we saw like that was Sonny Perdue in Glover Park Marietta. Now it’s just Tweets and such. Kind of dull.

RE: Kingston… I’m sure someone is assembling his greatest hits from Bill Maher’s show.

Samuel February 16, 2013 at 5:26 pm

Mrs. Korenstein, more importantly, I look forward to Dr. Broun lecturing us on the sacred institution of marriage. I also can’t wait for him to once again tell us how he is educating his fellow Congressmen on the Science & Technology Committee about the “Big Bang Theory” or more correctly, how the earth began 9,000 years ago. Yes, this will be fun.

NorthGAGOP February 16, 2013 at 8:01 pm

I wonder why Libby didn’t do the announcement for him. It’s all the rage these days.

John Konop February 16, 2013 at 8:06 pm

I think would Tom Price would win easy against him…….

John Konop February 16, 2013 at 8:07 pm

My Bad,

I think Tom Price…….

KD_fiscal conservative February 16, 2013 at 9:47 pm

Since they don’t have to resign until they officially qualify, which is a whole year away, I wonder if Broun, Kingston, and any other Member of Congress that decides to jump in, can just drop out and run for reelection if they don’t see their Senate campaign picking up any steam.

bowersville February 16, 2013 at 10:18 pm

Yes. But I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting the announced candidates for the expected US House vacancy to willingly step out of the race for Congress. Once an elected official announces a pending vacancy, other candidates line up support for that vacancy and many times it’s the same people that supported the original Congressman, Ga. House member, Ga Senator and so on.

Here’s the bottom line if that happens. It gets ugly. Really ugly very quickly.

Harry February 16, 2013 at 10:46 pm

Good point. But generally these events happen over a very short time frame – not months later. That’s why you don’t see any firm moves yet from potential candidates who may have expressed interest such as John Douglas. These folks keep their powder dry.

bowersville February 17, 2013 at 11:16 am

You’re right too. It’s going to get real interesting after the legislature goes home in the spring and see how many GA Senators and/or GA House members begin to file federal paperwork for fund raising. Or see whether they wait until after the next legislative session to raise funds for a Congressional campaign. Waiting until after the next GA legislative session may be too late. My bet is they file over the course of this spring and summer. Plus the field for US Senate most likely isn’t complete which adds to the confusion.

Tough decisions are ahead.

Lawton Sack (GATA Eagles!) February 17, 2013 at 2:37 pm

I don’t think Georgia’s resign to run law applies to a U.S. Representative running for the Senate. U.S. Representative Paul Ryan obviously kept his seat while running as Vice-President. I cannot find anything that states a U.S. Representative has to resign to run for the U.S. Senate. If you have any documentation of such, please share it.

Article II, Section II, Paragraph V of the Georgia Constitution states:
The office of any state, county, or municipal elected official shall be declared vacant upon such elected official qualifying, in a general primary or general election, or special primary or special election, for another state, county, or municipal elective office or qualifying for the House of Representatives or the Senate of the United States if the term of the office for which such official is qualifying for begins more than 30 days prior to the expiration of such official’s present term of office.

Napoleon February 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Regardless, you also don’t have to resign if you are up for re-election to your current post as well. Since all members of the House are up next year, even without the Constitutional issues Lawton raises, there would be no need to resign to run, except to avoid complaints they were campaigning on the taxpayer dime.

bowersville February 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm

The conversation began with “Since they don’t have to resign.”

Napoleon February 17, 2013 at 3:47 pm

The conversation began with, “Since they don’t have to resign until they qualify,…”

The point is they don’t have to resign, period. They are simply choosing not to run for re-election if they qualify for something else. As such, any House member who does run for Senate and chooses not to resign will retain his office until January of next year.

Also, a member of the State Legislature can raise funds for a federal office while the state legislature is in session. If a State Rep. or Senator wanted to run too, they can start fundraising now.

bowersville February 17, 2013 at 4:30 pm

I think we are talking past each other. Lawton’s comment was apparently to KD and not me.

My bad.

Lawton Sack (GATA Eagles!) February 17, 2013 at 5:52 pm

Yes, I was responding to KD. These replies get confusing sometimes. I was just clarifying that they do not have to resign to run.

Samuel February 17, 2013 at 4:32 pm

I think the fine point being missed here is that Georgia candidates can only qualify for one office at a time; thus, if a current office holder qualifies for US Senate, then they cannnot also qualify for their incumbent office. So, the question for Tom, Phil, Paul, Lyn et. al. is: Do you want to remain a GOP Congressman or do you want to try for the US Senate seat? You can’t have both.

In the case of Paul Ryan, Wisconsin, like Texas, permits office holders to qualify for their incumbent office if they are also a Presidential or Vice-Presidential candidate. Remember, Lloyd Bensten benefitted from this provision when he was Michael Dukakis’ running mate in 1988. In Texas, this law was originally written and intended to benefit Lyndon Johnson in 1960.

Lawton Sack (GATA Eagles!) February 17, 2013 at 5:53 pm

Yes, they cannot qualify to run for both. I was just clarifying that they do not have to resign their current seat to run for the Senate.

David C February 17, 2013 at 7:58 pm

Yep. Running for POTUS/VPOTUS and House/Senate is acceptable in most states. Biden and Lieberman both were up for Senate the same year they were up for Veep too. Interestingly, I think Ryan was the first Republican to pull the double as Veep candidate. Certainly since WWII. Palin, Agnew, and Earl Warren were both midterm Governors. Cheney, Kemp, Bush, and Lodge were all out of office at the point they ran for Veep. Quayle and Dole ’76 were in the Senate at the time, but not up for re-election. William Miller declined to run for re-election in the House in ’64.

IndyInjun February 16, 2013 at 11:20 pm

This is getting better by the day. Come on Gingrey, jump in there too!

That way we are rid of three incumbent congressmen, two of which have been anything but fiscal conservatives.

The Last Democrat in Georgia February 17, 2013 at 8:11 pm

+1

Spacey G February 17, 2013 at 7:43 am

I’ll tell Stephen Colbert. He’ll welcome back the material.

novicegirl February 17, 2013 at 12:07 pm

I always thought Kingston did well on Colbert. Maybe I missed one of the interviews.

novicegirl February 17, 2013 at 12:06 pm

My take on this race is the winner will be the most identifiable conservative, who raises a respectable amount of money and is short of “Todd Aiken” crazy.

ricstewart February 17, 2013 at 7:56 pm

Don’t forget to wear your American flag pin, Congressman!

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