Morning Reads for Friday, December 7, 2012

December 7, 2012 6:01 am

by Obi's Sister · 26 comments

President Franklin D. Roosevelt: …December 7, 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan….

Today is Pearl Harbor Rememberence Day. Walter Maciejowski, now 91, remembers that day.

– Haven’t had a snootful of Andrea Sneiderman lately? Have at it.
– Catholic bishops meet in Atlanta and push for path to citizenship of “undocumented persons.”
– Mark Richt’s UGA legacy.
– Craziness. In Dacula, of all places.

Cliff? What cliff?
Reasonable reassignments? Or vengeful purging?
– It’s great to (not) be king.
– Sen. Saxby Chambliss joins jobs caucus. Just in the nick of time, it seems.

Random Everywhere:
Hands off my Christmas tree.
– Jazz great Dave Brubeck died Wednesday.
– Fugitive John McAfee arrested, then suffers possible multiple heart attacks in Guatemalan jail.
30,000 points puts Kobe Bryant in some stellar company.

Ed is Amazing December 7, 2012 at 7:12 am
Ed is Amazing December 7, 2012 at 7:22 am

Jobs report predictions?

Unemployment rate stays the same, continued slow jobs growth.

Andre December 7, 2012 at 8:17 am

On this day, forty years ago, man’s last mission to the Moon launched at 12:33AM.

Apollo 17 carried Commander Eugene Cernan, Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans, and Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt safely to the Moon and back, setting many records in the process.

It’s almost insulting to think that America won the space race only to be reduced to catching rides into space on Russian Soyuz capsules more than forty years later. Even more insulting is the fact that a nation rounded ridiculed a presidential candidate for suggesting a permanent moon base and manned missions to Mars.

It is quite sad that, in the forty years since Apollo 17, space exploration has turned into a joke in this country. Surely we can do better.

xdog December 7, 2012 at 9:50 am

Gingrich’s moonman talk wasn’t attacked on its merits because it wasn’t a serious proposal but merely the latest (up til then) effort at pandering by the master.

Golden Spike Co. will take you and a friend to the moon for a mere $1.5B.

Noway December 7, 2012 at 10:15 am

The last and greatest American achievement. We have had Steve Jobs, Bill Gates etc…but the Apollo program was the ultimate in our National efforts. Forty years later I’m depressed as hell that there has been zero, nada, squat since then…

Of course there is no more money to accomplish anything great because the Takers are suckling furiously on the Collective Tit. It’s disgusting.

Ed is Amazing December 7, 2012 at 10:16 am

“Forty years later I’m depressed as hell that there has been zero, nada, squat since then”

That’s….not even the case at all.

Noway December 7, 2012 at 10:26 am

Name me a national American accomplishment on par with Apollo? Please.

Noway December 7, 2012 at 10:27 am

Since Apollo…

Ed is Amazing December 7, 2012 at 10:49 am

Not even worth it, bro.

Noway December 7, 2012 at 10:59 am

Didn’t think so.

saltycracker December 7, 2012 at 4:45 pm

Cash for Clunkers ?
Peanut subsidies ?
Food stamps for all ?
Restoring democracy in the middle east ?
Protecting the TBTF’s ?

saltycracker December 7, 2012 at 4:53 pm

And #1 – Hoverrounds for all the grossly obese (thyroid/android issue)

Noway December 7, 2012 at 5:06 pm

Saltycracker – I stand corrected!!

Noway December 7, 2012 at 5:09 pm

Love the Hoverround commercial at the Statue of Liberty. I noticed the rider was rather portly. If I were Hank Johnson, I’d be scared that dude would tip the Statue into the water! Oh, and it’s always a thyroid condition. Couldn’t be because they shovel Big Macs in their mouth 24/7.

Noway December 7, 2012 at 11:03 am

Got to meet Armstrong, Aldrin, Cernan and other Apollo guys a few years back. Rarified air at its best.

John Vestal December 7, 2012 at 9:16 am

Makes perfect sense that the Catholic Church is pushing for continuing the lax immigration policies, considering how the church has benefitted from them so far. For the first time in U.S. history, a minority identify themselves as Protestant.

While the biggest factor is, of course, the overall decrease in the % of Americans who identify with any religious affiliation, the percentage of Catholics within those who still identify as Christians is on the rise….due in part to immigration from other parts of the Americas where Catholics account for up to 90% of the population (thank you, torturing/murdering Catholic-commissioned Conquistadors and Old World plagues! :>)

Ed is Amazing December 7, 2012 at 9:33 am

Or its a legitimate moral issue for which they ought to be strong advocates–as should other religious groups.


SallyForth December 7, 2012 at 2:40 pm

“undocumented persons.” Is this what we’ve come to? REALLY?! Gag. me. with. a. spoon.

The legally correct term is “illegal alien.” Person born in another country who is in the U.S. via illegal means. Live with it.

Baker December 7, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Mexico has MUCH stronger immigration laws than we do. If we tried to go there and didn’t bother with Visas or anything, we’d be in big trouble.

Noway December 7, 2012 at 5:10 pm

+ 10000. To quote Ed McMahon, “You are correct, sir!”

Nonchalant December 7, 2012 at 4:36 pm

I guess the entire “obey the authorities” bit gets lost in translation these days. Picking and choosing portions of the bible to obey does somewhat lesson the moral impact of a statement coming from a Catholic bishop, but who the heck is impressed by that sort of status anyway?

If one must obey the authorities, and a parishoner does not, but puts his desires and wants before the interests of a society, especially one not his own, what does that indicate about the status of that person’s soul? That he is meek and Christ-like, or that he is grasping and avaricious, willing to do whatever is needed for material gain? I don’t know the final answer, but my guess is that there is at least a decent dialogue that could be had about the issue, and perhaps should be. Cetainly enough fingers get pointed at the “non-welcoming” society–no harm should come from a little scrutiny the other way, should it?

saltycracker December 8, 2012 at 9:52 am

Someone is going to have to explain to me why the Republicans don’t pull a Brer Rabbit, spring the trap and agree to the rate increase on the top earners. They could then get all kinds of favorable concessions/loopholes. A high percentage of business owners and industry leaders can adjust their financials to make the increase a non-event or even an advantage ?

Daddy Got A Gun December 8, 2012 at 10:12 am

Do you think Obama cares about fiscal and tax policy? Look at his response when Boehner gave him what he wanted, a tax increase of $800M on the rich. Obama dismissed it in minutes. Then you have Turbo Tax Geitner who threw out a demand that the Republicans surrender their main leverage point, the debt ceiling.

Obama doesn’t care about the cliff. He is using it as a way to split the Republicans and weaken them for 2014 and maybe eliminate them forever. This isn’t a good faith negotiation. Hopefully, the Republicans recognize this and back away from any deal and refuse to raise the debt limit. That will force two things:

1) the 47% that don’t pay taxes today, will start bearing the cost of government

2) Obama will need to shrink government to fit its revenues.

The Republicans are in a stronger position than they know. Obama knows he’s in a weak position and is demonstrating that with his bravado.

Experienced negotiators know its that its the quiet opponents that have the BATNA. Like Sun Tzu says…..Appear weak when you are strong, and [b]”strong when you are weak.”[/b]

saltycracker December 8, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Nancy Pelosi (typed with middle finger) said all the Republicans have to do is raise the rate on top earners and avoid the cliff. Public opinion via the media will place blame on the Republicans if we go over the cliff. And it will stick in 2014.

The art of negotiation is suspect at this time. The weakness of the Demos is a single point position- tax the rich – and the Republicans are taking the bait in lieu of exploiting it.

benevolus December 8, 2012 at 8:24 pm

Boehner doesn’t have to convince Obama to make a deal, he has to convince his own party. Until he shows he’s got some votes for something, anything he proposes is BS.

Harry December 8, 2012 at 9:20 pm

The same applies to Obama.

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