Debate Open Thread

Most of what I have to say, if anything, will be on twitter. #DenverDebate or #Debates, I think.

But for those of you who want/need to say something here, here’s your post to do it.


  1. GB101 says:

    What in the hell does it mean when the president says Romney’s plan would raise taxes by 5 trillion? Five trillion over what period of time? One year? Obviously not. If taxes were cut to ZERO the reduction would not be five trillion in a single year. Unless the time factor is included the number is utterly meaningless.

  2. seekingtounderstand says:

    Dear Future President: If you sell our natural resources that belong to all of America to pay off our national debt so that we do not burden future generations that might be preferred vs. facing the destruction of our country due to debt which is at unpayable levels.

  3. GB101 says:

    Why doesn’t Romney ask this question: If you think some tax breaks for oil companies should be eliminated why haven’t you done it? You have been president since Jan. 2009.

    • wicker says:

      It is far better to ask the question why tax breaks exist at all for oil companies, which is a very profitable, well developed sector that doesn’t need the assistance. Also, because the gigantic oil companies have cornered the market, it is a tough sell to think that tax breaks are going to help small oil companies get going and stay going. There is opposing the liberal environmentalist anti-capitalist anti-oil types on one hand, but honestly asking yourself if it is good policy on the other. Oil tax breaks persist for the same reason that farm subsidies do … many of their states have Republican congressional delegations (i.e. Texas, Oklahoma, Alaska, Louisiana). If the oil states were Democratic strongholds and giving money to Democratic candidates the way that Silicon Valley companies do, the GOP would be the ones opposing the tax breaks, and the Democrats would be the ones defending them.

  4. seekingtounderstand says:

    Why does President Obama feel then need to always be snitty. Why the heck with the “Trump” remark…………..he is so snarky.

  5. seekingtounderstand says:

    Butttt Pres. O your just as much into corporate welfare and banksters as the others.

    One estimate has us paying 1.5 billion for the cost of President Obama and his staff and czars and family. Maybe he could lead by example for a change…………….

    Oh and how about how you use Airforce one like its your personal Jet for personal agenda on campaigning.

    Never let someone who has been responsible for aborting millions be in charge of your healthcare.

  6. Bob Loblaw says:


    I’m unsure if I want someone whose family was estranged from the US due to bigamy laws in charge of my healthcare, either.

    Hypocrite. And whether you paid attention or not, the miles Bush 43 put on his jet in his first term was triple of any other president before him.

    Not that I believe a word either of them say. But you’re sanctimonious b.s. about “aborting millions” is disgusting. Romney wouldn’t change a thing in that regard.

    • wicker says:

      Shhhh … don’t alarm him with the truth. Just allow him the warm comfort of believing what he wants to believe.

    • seekingtounderstand says:

      relatives who practiced bigamy vs. president who is a chicago politican that worshiped at Rev. Wrights church and hides most of his records……………………….

      • seekingtounderstand says:

        Bob: Ever read the writings of the designer of Obamacare Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Rahm Emanuels brother who tried to help the Clintons get Hillary Care and then went to work at the Whitehouse……………..
        Its a DMV style healthcare by a dump down low paid medical staff.

  7. SallyForth says:

    Why doesn’t one of them point out that 45% of the people on Social Security and SSI are NOT 65 and older?!! Move those people to the Dept. of Labor and the Health & Human Services budgets where they belong, and Social Security is healthy forever.

    The same situation exists with Medicare. I don’t have the percentage of people younger than 65 on Medicare, but suspect it is similar to the percentages for S/S and SSI. Get all those people under 65 with health problems off Medicare and put them into age appropriate programs. Medicare problem solved.

    • SallyForth says:

      Okay, I’ve looked up the Medicare stats; 20% of the people on there are younger than 65 and belong in other programs. Clear out that unintended financial drain from the Medicare fund and the old folks will be fine.

      Why does nobody talk about that 45% of S/S recipients and 20% of Medicare recipients who are NOT senior citizens? Pols in Washington with special interests have slid those people unfunded into these programs, instead of putting their care in proper programs. Stop hiding them behind old folks!

  8. fishtail says:

    In my opinion, Romney sliced and diced Obama like a Ginzo knife through a Vidalia onion….he is obviously a very smart man…and Obama is so smarmy and condescending….

  9. saltycracker says:

    Surprise- Romney get tough, direct and called O out – Obama muddled on trying to latch on to the middle class-
    Romney stepped up –

  10. fishtail says:

    Romney’s best line of the night, when speaking to Obama….”you are entitled to your jet, your house, but not to your own set of facts”…..

    • Lea Thrace says:

      That line threw me a bit. That’s a presidential “entitlement”. Arent those the same things you are campaigning to get access to as well? Why use those things to illustrate your point? Seemed a bit out of place. But most of this debate was about zingers anyway. Not much substance from anyone. I was not impressed.

      • fishtail says:

        I believe Romney was tapping into the resentment that many people had when Michelle Obama and her hundred plus entourage went on a lavish, multi million vacation to Spain at taxpayer expense.

  11. Charlie says:

    A text from my Congressman Phil Gingrey:

    “President Obama realized he was in the ring with a heavyweight tonight and he got out-punched.”

  12. seekingtounderstand says:

    Knock out point had to be when President Obama called for hiring more teachers and Romney pointed out that 90 Billion spent on failed green energy companies who where campaing donors would have hired alot of teachers.

  13. The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

    With his performance tonight Romney is not only back in the game but he is back in firm control of it. Congrats to Romney, after the last month we were starting to think that he didn’t have it in him but have it in him Romney did and then some.

    Obama is in BIG trouble and this race is now Mitt Romney’s race to win.

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