Holy Tinfoil – Zoning…as a socialist plot

September 27, 2012 18:24 pm

by Bridget Cantrell · 46 comments

Just wow.  It looks like the Agenda 21 cray from the Cobb Commissioner Race has made it’s way to Cherokee County.

From AJC Political Insider: A four-hour, state Capitol seminar on Agenda 21

Republican members of the state Senate have received an invitation from Majority Leader Chip Rogers of Woodstock to attend a four-hour, Oct. 11 seminar at the state Capitol on Agenda 21 – what some conservatives believe to be a United Nations-driven conspiracy to erase American property rights.

From this memo, add up the billable rates of these men and then get irritated they’re wasting four hours of time on this.  The attendees also get the option of watching Agenda: Grinding Down America for 1.5 hours.

Gentlemen,  if we’re taking that much time, please go ahead and take another equally productive 30 minutes to watch the latest episode of Georgia’s other regional terror – Honey Boo Boo.

Scott65 September 27, 2012 at 6:46 pm

It it just me, or does anyone else see this as an utter embarrassment to our state? I think the yahoos around here will believe just about anything…be carefull of them neighborhood associations too…they’re socialist hotbeds I tell you…
In the immortal words of Charlie Brown (the cartoon not the drag queen)…GOOD GRIEF!

Max Power September 28, 2012 at 8:13 am

Someone was giving me a hard time about Georgia being home to Honey Boo Boo, Small Town Securty, Love and Hip Hop in Atlanta, and such, I was quick to retort that thanks to our politicians reality TV is only the second most embarrassing thing about Georgia.

Calypso September 28, 2012 at 8:20 am

And unlike our illustrious legislators, who are meant solely for intrastate amusement, the TV shows your friend mentioned are enjoyed by the an interstate audience. If it weren’t for viewers in Des Moines, Paducah, Seattle, and Caribou Honey BooBoo et al. would never exist.

Thanks nation.

Scott65 September 28, 2012 at 6:24 pm

we’re doomed…

benevolus September 28, 2012 at 8:08 pm

In Paducah, the bars don’t open until 6PM, but the bus stops running at 5PM.
My guess is that the mayor runs the taxi franchise.

Just fyi.

Calypso September 28, 2012 at 9:06 pm

I’ll keep that in mind the next time I get plastered in Paducah.

Scott65 September 29, 2012 at 1:27 pm

I’m always a bit more focused on when they close…ah, remember the days of 24hr bars in Atlanta

ricstewart September 27, 2012 at 7:24 pm

+1 for use of the word “cray”

Romegaguy September 27, 2012 at 9:59 pm

I would love to hire black helicopters to circle the Capitol that day

Napoleon September 28, 2012 at 10:27 am

+21

Calypso September 28, 2012 at 10:31 am

I checked already, there are no black helicopters available for rent that day. It seems they are all be used on missions of some sort.

Napoleon September 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm

I used to work for an elected official and there was this guy who used to call our office because he wanted my boss’s help. It seems that he was being followed by the government using black helicopters. After getting him several times, I finally said, “Well sir, you do realize we ARE the government.”

Never heard from him again.

Calypso September 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm

“Well sir, you do realize we ARE the government. Now please excuse me as I have several tail rotors I have to pre-flight.”

polpol September 27, 2012 at 10:28 pm

And just think they will get paid a legislative per diem for this……………

Harry September 27, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Max Power September 28, 2012 at 8:14 am

No it’s not at least not in the way the Blaze thinks it is. Do yourself a favor and get your news from a legitimate source.

ricstewart September 28, 2012 at 8:24 am

Shhh… just let him have this one. It’ll keep him occupied.

Spacey G September 28, 2012 at 11:01 am

ROFL-ing now…

taylor September 27, 2012 at 11:00 pm

This comment was predictable.

Harry September 27, 2012 at 11:07 pm

And it’s predictable that some of you think it’s not a problem. This is exactly the program that was espoused by Lenin in Russia, and we see how that turned out.

Raleigh September 28, 2012 at 6:49 am

Excuse me, maybe someone could enlighten me and tell me why the UN’s Agenda 21 would be good for local communities in Georgia? How will it improve our quality of life?

Charlie September 28, 2012 at 7:24 am

You clearly have never experienced the joy of an 8′ sidewalk.

Raleigh September 28, 2012 at 7:35 am

No indeed I haven’t but does living on rural dirt road count? A few folks I know would really like to have a paved 8’ sidewalk on their dirt rural road. :-)

Max Power September 28, 2012 at 8:24 am

UN troops will help direct traffic. My god people, go to the UN and read the all the Agenda 21 documents and you’ll see it’s nothing but a full employment for diplomats documents. A lot of talk.

tmoore912 September 28, 2012 at 7:03 am
seenbetrdayz September 30, 2012 at 6:47 pm

Hush that talk about rights and stuff.

eliz September 28, 2012 at 8:02 am

Chip – you have flipped a switch for sure! Railing against Public Private Partnerships. What exactly do you call the very motivation behind the Charter Amendment? It is a fast track to get private EMO’s like Charter Schools USA and K12 deep into the taxpayers pockets. Private EMO’s using public tax dollars – also known as Public Private Partnerships – are supposed to accomplish what you and the General Assembly don’t feel like tackling – improving education for ALL Georgia’s students. And to get those EMO’s up and running double time, you are asking the 95% of taxpayers who aren’t currently sending their kids to charter schools to give up their voice to an appointed commssion under the Gold Dome. What a joke for a so called fiscal conservative to be playing on the constituents he’s supposed to represent. Guess what – those who promote “genuine free markets” like the late Milton Friedman list three monopolies in the US of A ; the post office, school boards and the LEGISLATURE. Why don’t you all just get out of the way instead of relentlessly picking on school boards if “promoting individual liberty” is so important to you? Hypocrite.

lively64 September 28, 2012 at 11:57 am

The Charter School Admendment is a prime example as was the TSPLOST of public private partnerships. I guess this means that Senator Chip Rogers agrees with State School Superindentent Dr. John Barge and oppsoes admendment 1 on the November ballot.

bowersville September 28, 2012 at 8:05 am

And to think. This is the same Senate leadership we are to trust with the enabling legislation behind the Charter School Amendment. I think not.

Georgia might as well go all in and create an oversight commission to determine the existence of big-foot, the para-normal and hogzilla.

Howard Roark September 28, 2012 at 9:00 am

Bowersville, you need to comment here more often.

bowersville September 29, 2012 at 9:11 am

You see the trend? Why bring up something Nancy Pelosi spoke in favor of in 1992(Agenda 21)? The powers that be at the State level do not agree with the local level decisions made on Charter Schools and we see an Amendment authorizing State intervention into local decisions. So ask your self what’s next when State leadership doesn’t agree with local zoning rulings that favor the nimbys. Yes it’s a stretch but when there is a profit to be made…..

John Konop September 29, 2012 at 11:16 am

Private/public deals good if the lobbyist gave to our team, bad if they gave it to the other team. Am I missing anything?

John Konop September 29, 2012 at 11:17 am

I agree, he makes great points!

greencracker September 28, 2012 at 8:51 am

You know what proves Houston is freer and more liberty-loving than Atlanta? No zoning.

Slugworth September 28, 2012 at 9:31 am

Without zoning, does this mean one of them extended-stay, no-tell motels on every corner? Could we still limit how many of them illegals reside in a single apartment/trailer?

Spacey G September 28, 2012 at 10:47 am

Sneaky cam op!

LoyaltyIsMyHonor September 28, 2012 at 11:03 am

I will be wearing my powder blue beret for this event.

saltycracker September 28, 2012 at 12:57 pm

Great-grandpa said his rights were taken away when Florida put in fence laws restricting his cattle. And anything he tossed in or took from the creeks on his land was his business. Most man made laws were for the weak.

He’d kick my butt today for my years of pushing reasonable land use to protect my individualism. But the extremists on both sides will screw it up.

Raleigh September 28, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Would that be your definition of “reasonable” land use or the UN’s?

saltycracker September 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm

Neither, guess again.

janamini September 28, 2012 at 1:47 pm

I think it would be helpful to note that Agenda 21 and Agenda the movie are for the most part unrelated. In regards to Agenda 21, I’m overly joyed that our elected representatives are listening to the concerns of rural Georgians, often times it seems like they’ve forgotten about them in the mad rush to make Atlanta the center of the universe while marginalizing the needs of folks in other places in the state. To argue that we as Georgians are better off ignoring these threats and worrying about other things is well and good, as everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to ridicule people for actually caring about the our sovereign federal government on the international scene, as well dual sovereign rights of our states is beneath the party. It’s important to remember that without these “tin foil hatters” you wouldn’t be allowed to discipline you own children in your home, or to emit more than your fair share of carbon without being taxed. These are real life things being debated in Human Rights / Political Theory classrooms around the country right now. To argue that they are the sole domain of tin foil folks is at best an ill informed argument and at worst something belonging to actual tin foil hatter conversations.

Let’s all get onboard our 2012 platform and toe the line like good Republicans.

From the 2012 Platform:

“Under our Constitution, treaties become the law of the land. So it is all the more important that the Congress—the Senate through its ratifying power and the House through its appropriating power—shall reject agreements whose long-range impact on the American family is ominous or unclear. These include the U.N. Convention on Women’s Rights, the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the Convention Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, and the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty as well as the various declarations from the U.N. Conference on Environment and Development. Because of our concern for American sovereignty, domestic management of our fisheries, and our country’s long-term energy needs, we have deep reservations about the regulatory, legal, and tax regimes inherent in the Law of the Sea Treaty and congratulate Senate Republicans for blocking its ratification. We strongly reject the U.N. Agenda 21 as erosive of American sovereignty, and we oppose any form of U.N. Global Tax. We oppose any diplomatic efforts that could result in giving the United Nations unprecedented control over the Internet. International regulatory control over the open and free Internet would have disastrous consequences for theUnited States and the world.”

sunkawakan September 28, 2012 at 4:17 pm

If Rogers wants to hold this foolish session, he should be required to pay for it himself. Keep in mind that they’ll get their per diem, etc. for this session. It will cost the taxpayers of Georgia as much at $10,000 for something that’s an embarrassment.

As to Agenda 21, it’s a 1992 document that got little attention and virtually no action. The most attention it’s had is from the John Birch Society, who helpfully provides model “legislation” — virtually identical to that which was dropped last legislative session.

Scott65 September 28, 2012 at 6:23 pm

I dont think Agenda 21 has much to do with Walmart, but the people who live in the Lindbergh area dont want the Walmart and the city agreed to zone the area High Density Residential back in 2001 to promote more transit oriented growth and prevent a Walmart type with 7 acres of parking …thats what the residents that live there wanted. Thats why it was zoned that way. To say that land use regulation is a UN Plot reduces you to the tin foil realm…sorry, but the truth is the truth…not everything you read on the internet is the truth

janamini September 28, 2012 at 7:07 pm

It’s always amusing to see such apathetic divergence from the party platform and such tacit support of one Nancy’s earliest accomplishments. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUBwIJWH7ew)

janamini September 28, 2012 at 7:07 pm

Check out that mane of hair!

janamini September 28, 2012 at 7:55 pm

For some reason I had convinced myself this was a conservative / Republican news outlet, and with that, I will take my tinfoil hat out of the ring and enjoy the taste of foot for the rest of the evening. Have a good night!

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