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Here in Georgia: Anti-Incumbency 

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  1. peachstealth says:

    As much fun as it is to poke fun of Rep. Todd Akin, his views on abortion are that of the GOP.

    Good grief, are Republicans TRYING to keep women from voting for them?

      • peachstealth says:

        I’m a Republican wonam. I detest abortion on demand , but you have to make a few exceptions.
        For those of you who believe every pregnancy must be carried to term, google ” ectopic pregnancy “

        • caroline says:

          Yeah but what this guy is trying to say is that no pregnancies occur because of rape which is some sort of idiotic myth not backed up by science and then they are afraid that some women are going to lie to get an abortion and say they are raped (probably will happen) and some guy is going to go to jail because of it but for some reason seem to have no sympathy for the police investigating every woman who has a miscarraige. The only reasonable thing for the GOP to say is that maybe they should stay out of everybody’s bedroom and quit voting to mandate probing people’s private parts but the GOP is way too invested in this stuff to stop now.

          In 2008 Obama got 67% of the women’s vote in this country. The way the GOP keeps going he is going to get 75% to 80% in November.

    • saltycracker says:

      The Republican platform statement on this issue, as reported, has not changed for years.
      The interesting thing may be that it takes some ill-timed stupid statement to pay attention to mission statements from committees.

  2. Trey A. says:

    Walking Small has returned and Fayette voters continue to replace good government conservatives with no-growth, NIMBY reactionaries (thank you Peachtree City–why doesn’t Fayette have district voting again?). Not a good day for the places where I grew up.

    • Charlie says:

      Anti-incumbency is so bad in Fayette that the sheriff there, with no overt scandal, got less than 40% of the vote on the July primary ballot.

      Steve Brown is now set to do for the County what he did for Peachtree City as mayor, when he only received 20% of the vote for his re-elect.

      And as suburban Atlanta has become increasingly anti-incumbent, I’m sure he has his sights set much higher.

      • Trey A. says:

        I know. It’s pretty awful. If Randall Johnson was on the ballot this year, he probably would have lost. I still can’t believe Fayetteville dumped Ken Steele last year…

        Sheriff Hannah got hurt by having his wife in the department (never mind that she didn’t get promoted under his watch and they actually met and married while both were working in the dept. long before he was sheriff.) I don’t know much about Barry Babb–other than meeting and interviewing him a few times when he campaigned four years ago. But I do know Wayne Hannah was a competent and respected sheriff. He had some wildcards working for him, but he was basically the anti-Walking Small: respectful, friendly, humble, approachable and efficient.

        I think a lot of the fervor/stupidity/NIMBYism/fear-mongering and mudslinging in Fayette can be attributed to the man behind the toxic local free weekly paper and even more toxic “anything goes” blogs (And I’m not talking about the paper I used to edit down there).

  3. CobbGOPer says:

    If the idiots in Gwinnett County will send Don Balfour back to the General Assembly, it doesn’t surprise me in the least that the idiots in Clayton County would elect a guy for sheriff who may be in jail this time next year…

    We’ve got a big disconnect in this state among voters. Too many are willing to overlook ethical lapses when it suits their personal or local interests. And it started at the top, with Nathan Deal’s election despite his ethical issues. It used to be that being a crook was a negative for a politician, unless they were running in Louisiana.

    I would now say unless they are running in Louisiana or Georgia.

  4. CobbGOPer says:

    Good job 9th District. You put yet another of Nathan Deal’s cronies in a position of power. At this point I rate the intellectual capabilities of the average 9th district voter as equal to those of the idiots who re-elected Don Balfour and the idiots who returned Victor Hill to Clayton County.

    • tdk790 says:

      Tip of the hat to Deal, though. He waded in at the last minute and likely made a big difference (just going the poll the week before).

    • Salmo says:

      Thanks. This anti-intellectual 9th district voter (MS from an AAU member school) proudly marked the box for Doug Collins yesterday.

      Care to enlighten us on how Doug Collins is the equivalent of someone who is under indictment for 30+ felonies which are directly related to abuse of elected office? I had some preferred candidates who didn’t win yesterday, but I didn’t go on a message board whining and calling everyone who disagreed with me an idiot.

      • CobbGOPer says:

        What good is the Internet if you can’t call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot?

        As for Doug Collins, he takes his marching orders from Nathan Deal, and that’s enough for me to equate Collins supporters generally with idiots. But it also has a lot to do with the fact that abortion and gay rights issues had an inordinate effect on the outcome of this race. You people have the wrong priorities up there, obviously. But then, you’re not alone. Nathan Deal did the same thing to Karen Handel on a statewide basis two years ago, proving that GOP voters all over have seriously backwards priorities while the state continues to stare down 8% unemployment.

        You are free to have a different opinion. This is still America, after all.

        • Salmo says:

          I wasn’t particularly fond of either one’s campaigns. Deal’s in particular was probably the worst statewide campaign I’ve ever seen that actually won.

          Regardless, I voted for Nathan Deal (I voted for Eric Johnson in the initial primary, fwiw) and Doug Collins because I was voting for someone to be Governor/Congressman, not a full-time campaigner. I felt that both of those candidates were better choices than their opponents. This is compounded by the fact that neither Karen Handel nor Martha Zoller’s campaigns were exactly stupdendous in their own right, anyway. Martha’s attempt to make the “conservative firebrand” label stick to herself by repeating it ad nauseum was laughable, and her “Gold Dome Doug” label was just lazy as it attempted to use guilt by association without any real reasoning.

          In the end, you have to vote for the person you think will do a better job in the position they’re elected to. You haven’t really said anything yet that says why you actually thought Zoller would do a better job. You’ve just complained about campaign tactics. According to her own words during the campaign, Martha actually agrees with Collins on abortion and gay rights completely. Given that, how would one be any different than the other in Washington on those specific issues?

          Fwiw, my vote had absolutely nothing to do with abortion or gay rights. Those are non-issues (politically, at least, not morally) as far as this Republican is concerned.

            • CobbGOPer says:

              Good luck with that. Until independents and 3rd parties aren’t required to collect thousands of signatures just to be allowed to pay qualifying fees to run, we will continue to be ruled by Republicans with a few Democrats sprinkled in for flavor.

          • CobbGOPer says:

            Let me be more clear: Martha Zoller is a better pick for the exact reason that she is an outsider politically. In case you haven’t been paying attention, it’s the professional politicians that have screwed up this state and country.

            If we have to elect complete novices in order to regain some semblance of civilian/taxpayer control of our government – as opposed to the current system of being dictated to by arrogant incumbents that are nearly impossible to remove – then I’m for it.

            I also don’t think it hurts if we had one less pasty white male in the state GOP congressional delegation. But the GOP here consistently indicates that it is supremely uninterested in appealing to a broader audience. I’ve quit trying to change their minds. Now I just criticise them incessantly for it. You will never get over the criticism that your party is racist if the vast majority of your party continues to be monochromatic and mostly male.

            • Salmo says:

              Being an outsider isn’t a qualification, nor is being an insider a disqualification. If you’re using political experience as your main way to judge a candidate, then you’re just being lazy. There are plenty of terrible political novices who run for office and plenty of incredibly intelligent, honest people who have held office before. Let’s say Martha Zoller had won last night…would you support a random person who had never held office before and challenged her in the primary in 2014 on principle alone?

              As to your point about pasty white males, I agree that the GOP needs some color to appeal to a growing demographic. That’s why I’ve voted for people like Herman Cain and Melvin Everson and supported others (whose races I couldn’t vote in) like Regina Quick and Garry Guan. However, I also supported those people because I felt they were the better candidate, not because of the color of their skin or the fact they had a vagina.

            • caroline says:

              Why should they be interested in appealing to a broader audience? Right now not doing so works for them. That being said, they should be trying to appeal to a broader audience if they want to stay viable long term as the current one is pretty much dying off.

  5. joe says:

    In Henry Co. the feeling was less anti-incumbent than it was anit THIS incumbent. Apparently the Mathis plan for the county included:

    1. Buy a farm, and convert it to a pseudo battlefield park
    2. Buy an airport
    3. Buy a golf course
    4. Raise the tax rate, and try to explain that you are not raising taxes
    5. Run for re-election

    Step 5 didn’t work.

    • Trey A. says:

      Yeah, the “buy the farm” and “buy the airport” plans surely seemed like a good ideas when Henry was growing like crazy and the money was pouring in… Didn’t work out to well post 2008.

      But, Nash Farm is now home to an excellent high school cross country course. One of the better in the state for spectators. So there’s that.

  6. Jackster says:

    As much fun as it is to poke fun of Rep. Todd Akin, his views on abortion are that of the GOP.
    And this is why I don’t really see myself running or claiming to be an R.Any way you can be an R without having to claim all of the platform? I mean c’mon, most christians don’t claim ALL of the bible.

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