Bonus Morning Reads For August 13th.

Chairman of Citizens for Transportation Mobility says there’s nothing his group could have said or done to get TPLOST passed. I think he’s right about that.

“I’m sure there’s some part of the campaign that we could have done better. But let’s say that moved it three percentage points? We still would have lost,” he said. “We could not overcome the bigger dynamics out there. I don’t think there’s anything we could have done that would have changed the outcome.”

Gridlock Guy: A small road improvement has a huge impact.

Last week the Georgia Department of Transportation very quietly added a row of concrete barriers dividing the lanes of Interstate 85 southbound and Ga. 400 southbound where the two roadways come together and merge heading to Midtown.

It was a small, probably inexpensive project. It was done quickly with no fanfare. However it’s impact is huge and hopefully will spread.

My biggest pet peeve when driving is when people don’t merge properly onto the freeway. It’s called “cutting the gore” and it’s not only annoying and dangerous, but it also slows down traffic.

14 comments

  1. girl with a gun says:

    So, what the the Chairman of Citizens for Transportation Mobility is saying is that they just wasted money .

  2. bgsmallz says:

    As long as we are talking about minutia like cutting the gore, can anyone give me the right answer on merging when there is construction on an interstate.

    I’ve noticed that truck drivers like to block people from using the lane that ends due to a construction project…I just about got run off the road by somebody that was mad I was using the open lane.

    But isn’t that the right move? You shouldn’t merge over into one lane three miles early…that just exacerbates the back-up, right? The right move is to use both lanes to regulate speed up until the lane ends so that a merge can occur without having to have a stopped line in one lane for 5 miles, right? My thought is that because trucks have to merge early, they get mad at cars that can actually use the other lane…but it seems everybody has the mentality of ‘I should just sit in this line of traffic and leave that other lane completely traffic free b/c that is the ‘polite’ thing to do’….

    Am I a jerk or am I right or does anyone care?

    Happy Monday, all!

    • Calypso says:

      From my observations, when the truckers do as you describe, it allows the single-lane traffic to more quickly get through the construction area as opposed to bunching up at the last minute.

      I believe this occurs because the trucks, though blocking a lane, are moving at the speed of the open lane traffic and allows merging over a longer distance.

      But I’m not a traffic engineer, merely a driver.

      • saltycracker says:

        C, exactly & they don’t do it 3 miles back ….odds are it is the car drivers being the jerks rushing and cutting if you merge more than 3 cars back

        • bgsmallz says:

          Well, salty, that’s my question…am I being a jerk going by the trucks or am I just being more a more efficient and therefore more courteous driver? (the last part was tongue in cheek…sort of…) So I guess there is diverging opinion on it…

          Funny…I googled this after I asked (which is entirely the wrong way to do these things) and apparently there is much scholarly debate with proponents of late merges touting a study that shows 15% reduction in congestion. (they use a system in PA that tells drivers to use both lanes until the merge point…) The most interesting part of the results…despite the across the board reduction in overall congestion, roughly 70% of truck drivers opposed the late merge system whereas roughly 70% of other drivers supported the system.

          There is a lesson in there somewhere about transportation issues, behaviors, and winners/losers, but that wasn’t the point of the earlier comment….

          • LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

            LOL, this is funny and interesting…and these are the kind of things I think about when I drive home from work. I’ve always merged early thinking that was the proper etiquette, never giving much thought that if everyone did that then there’d be a wasted lane for a few miles.

    • Monica says:

      Err, I care cause I drive a lot and get stuck in the beautiful Atlanta traffic all the freaking time. I do believe in driving pretty much to the end of that lane, but some cars really push it. I end up sitting in both lanes so that those jokers behind me can’t squeeze in just so they can jump in front of extra car or two (and me). If you’re almost at the end, and all the other cars in front of you are merging, you need to merge yourself as well.

      • bgsmallz says:

        Interesting…I get the whole idea about not pushing it. Typically that seems to happen when more than one car tries to squeeze in front of the same car. What I find comical is the drive that moves over with 1000 ft left in the merge lane and then gets mad when the car behind them merges ahead of them.

        • rrrrr says:

          Here’s a thought, try this sometime when you’re in the lane that’s about to disappear like those on the GA 400 stretch going north…

          Travel in the left lane and note which vehicle gets to the merge point along side you … (As an example where the lane markers stop)

          THEN brake and move in BEHIND that vehicle in the “open” flow lane.

          You might even have to let another by but it’s OK.

          It eliminates the “waste” of the lane space, it prevents the “pull out and cut arounds” that screw up the flow forward (because they piss everyone else off) and puts the drivers in your immediate area at ease, because they SEE you aren’t trying to “beat” them anywhere…

          Big trucks work together wherever possible to pace traffic themselves because most non professional drivers DON’T know how to “alternate flow” making one lane from 2.
          That’s the simple reason the Fed/State spent wasted SO much money installing those entrance ramp alternating traffic lights. If we “road warriors” would just adopt a 2 way stop mentality and DEFER to the vehicle traveling in the “open lane” and THEN alternate, traffic would move so much faster – we would eliminate the fender benders from “NY driver style” jockeying for position which clogs traffic further, waiting for police services /wrecker THAT can’t get through to write up the incident …

          Because the traffic is blocked…

          (If you have ever driven in Manhattan, YOU know for a fact that Southern drivers as a rule can’t put it off the NY Squeeze with the same finesse)

          Added benefit is access is left for EMS vehicles when really needed and this DOESN’T require a ten year TAX to do it.

          When in stop and go traffic, leave a little gap…
          Just remember the EMS vehicle that suddenly appears and needs it may be carrying your loved one.

          For extra points with traffic gets sqeezed from the right – create a GAP, LET a BIG truck over… You’ll have a freind for life or at least until the next exit.

  3. Bob Loblaw says:

    A tricky transportation question regarding volume flow and the engineering best suited to the task, huh? Debbie! We need an answer!

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