The Day After

Despite what some may say yesterday’s Primary Election did not determine the fate of the free world. TSPLOST passed in only 3 of the 12 districts across Georgia. Where we go from here will be debated and talked about in the coming months. Despite what proponents said, there is always a Plan B. It may be better than Plan A or it may be worse. Time will tell.

I have been saying for some time now that voters still have tremendous power in our political system. Voters don’t need to match the dollars others may have to express their will. If last night’s TSPLOST results prove anything it is that money doesn’t always win and when voters are engaged they prevail. This holds true in campaigns and when talking about lobbyist spending under the Gold Dome.

The need for real solutions still exists. We can only reach those solutions if we Elected Officials earn voters trust again and you voters allow us to earn your trust. Let’s work together to address our transportation problems in a real and lasting way. We won’t all get everything we want but we can act in the best interests of Georgia.

44 comments

  1. Engineer says:

    The problem is, you are unlikely to see any “Plan B” any time soon. Most likely, they will sit around for the 2 year wait clause to start the TSPLOST vote all over again. I suspect that only if it doesn’t pass the 2nd time will they search for a “Plan B” In regards to DOT spending between now and then, they’ll just let it ride and ignore it like they have for the past 10 years.

    Also, does anybody know What happened with the Right to Life amendment? It looks like it passed with wide margins in much of Southern Georgia. Way to go making us look worse than Mississippi.

    • SallyForth says:

      @Engineer, It wasn’t a right-to-life amendment – it was actually is-a-fertilized-egg-a-person. Actual language: Should the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to provide that the paramount right to life is vested in each innocent human being from his or her earliest biological beginning without regard to age, race, sex, health, function, or condition of dependency?

      Come to think of it, that would be from the time the egg of her female child was first formed inside their grandmother’s body. So watch out, granny!!

      The garbled proposed amendment to our Constitution got a roughly 60/40 vote “yes” by the mental giants who voted yesterday.

    • mountainpass says:

      Well those folks won’t get any help from plan B, they punished themselves by approving Plan A. They will pay for B, but no state monies will go there.

      • Engineer says:

        Well the easy answer would be to place an exemption in the law to plan B (likely an increase in motor fuel taxes) to those regions that passed/use the T-SPLOST with a line forcing them to go to plan B status if they decide (after 10 years) to not allow their T-SPLOST to continue.

        However, the more complex issue is how you split up the money extra revenue generated from a Plan B while still providing some money to those 3 regions as before….

    • Joshua Morris says:

      That’s my question as well. A Frankenstein emerged from this effort that now makes a statewide plan awkward to develop and implement.

    • Engineer says:

      Thanks, unfortunately, I had finally found that same page just before refreshing this page.

      I guess it is official, we look worse than Mississippi at the moment. 🙁

      • John Vestal says:

        Not really….keep in mind the 66% represents the results of a GOP-only non-binding referendum. The proposal which was defeated in Mississippi (where a 2011 poll showed that 47% of likely GOP voters still think interracial marriage should be illegal) was on a general election ballot.

        I fully expected a high-60’s or even 70-ish result on this…..but it would still be a tough sell in a general election.

          • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

            Don’t worry about it Engineer, as it may make us look backwards to a bunch of snotty Northeasterners and botoxed Californians, but who cares about them anyways?

            Abortion is hot-button issue throughout much of the country outside of the Northeast and the West Coast, including throughout much of the Midwest and the Southeast.

            The Georgia GOP is primarily just playing up the abortion issue to turnout the base of the party for future elections in the face of changing voter demographics driven by newcomers moving into the Atlanta Region in droves from other parts of the country and the world.

            It is a strategy that could pay off some dividends in the immediate short run, but could be risky in the both the short run and long run if taken too far.

  2. Dave Bearse says:

    Georgia voters, dumb as a bag of hair. T-SPLOST failed because they don’t trust politicians with money, but then they re-elect everyone and the ball goes to Gov Deal, a life-long government insider with a penchant for cronyism.

    Now that the GOP has handled transportation, it can return to the bread and butter economic development issues of guns, gays, gambling and personhood.

    • Calypso says:

      “T-SPLOST failed because they don’t trust politicians with money, but then they re-elect everyone…”

      So true, so sad.

      • Blog Goliard says:

        Well, okay, you’ve forced me into repeating this in one more thread:

        We’ll know the voters are finally serious when name recognition becomes a *bad* thing. Until then, their frustration is just bluster.

        (Or perhaps in some cases, it’s more than just bluster, but the voter is simply too dim to comprehend the most basic cause-and-effect relationship.)

    • Engineer says:

      “they don’t trust politicians with money, but then they re-elect everyone”

      Yep, I brought that up with a couple folks, but they basically deflected the question or ignored it. :\

  3. Calypso says:

    Buzz, here’s a novel idea to take back your fellow legislators: Be the REPRESENTATIVES of the people, you know, the job for which you guys were elected.

    Something as intricate, sophisticated, complex, and detailed as TSPLOST is nothing for a rather ill-informed electorate to decipher. The legislature needs to put together a good Plan B, find a way to fund it, and enact it.

    Quit trying to cover your ass with the voters. Since TSPLOST was defeated, you guys can say, “Voters think traffic is ok, otherwise they would have passed it.” If TSPLOST had won, then you guys could say, “We didn’t raise your taxes, you voters did.” Either way, the legislature comes out smelling like a rose to the majority of voters who are left with the stench of your debacle.

    **YOU and YOUR is used collectively to refer to all under the Gold Dome, including the governor, not Buzz Brockway.

    • benevolus says:

      The legislature passed on legislating this issue BECAUSE of Tea Party pressure against raising taxes. It’s a fantasy to think that the Tea Party will support ANYTHING that involves a tax increase. Their “Plan B” is a charade and a scam. They will continue to play because it gets them a seat at the table, but in the end, they will always oppose any tax increase. That is their purpose, mission, and name, isn’t it?
      Democrats, despite their shortcomings, built this state from ashes into the 10th largest state and the envy of the southeast. Now we’ve got a bunch of luddites steering the ship.
      Welcome to New Haiti, where poverty and corruption rule.

  4. dorian says:

    Does anyone know if T-Splost is dead state wide, or if it will only be in the 3 districts that passed it. I thought I read somewhere it had to be passed by a majority in each district and in the State, but I don’t remember where I read that.

    • Engineer says:

      When a region passes T-SPLOST, only that region is affected. In this case, T-SPLOST will only go into effect in those 3 regions that passed it.

  5. fuzzypeach777 says:

    “I guess it is official, we look worse than Mississippi at the moment.”

    Really? Because yet again, the “power” in this state has learned this is the state of Georgia and not the state of Atlanta?

    “Georgia voters, dumb as a bag of hair.”

    Yeah, because asking voters to pay for paving of streets in downtown Atlanta when they don’t live in downtown Atlanta is actually brilliant.

    ..and of course there was a healthy dose of cash for that perennial favorite, MARTA.

    • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

      Gee, I wonder why people aren’t all that fond of MARTA as a solution to our transportation problems?…

  6. debbie0040 says:

    This song dedication goes out to Bob Loblaw, Stiffler and other Deal/Chamber/CTM sock pockets that ridiculed and made fun of our anti T-SPLOST effort. BTW, you ran a PR campaign based on the book and followed the rules. You were predictible. We broke the rules, thought outside the box and ran circles around you. We were one step ahead of you …We were average, everyday people that knew what message would resonate with voters.

        • Engineer says:

          I see somebody didn’t notice that the people also were victorious in 3 other regions. The people’s victory is a region by region thing. Remember, “the people” voted on this.

          • debbie0040 says:

            The crown jewel was the Atlanta Region. We defeated T-SPLOST in 9 regions.

            Everyday citizens that became engaged in the process earned this victory. I had a insignificant role in the whole thing. The pro T-SPLOST crowd (in particular the Chamber and big business) showed contempt for average citizens fighting T-SPLOST.

            • jbgotcha says:

              I guess. Enjoy this short term “victory,” but remember this: creating economic viability for this state is a marathon not a sprint. The tea party just doesn’t seem to have any cohesive long term vision for growth. We are all going to feel the hurt in the long run.

        • SallyForth says:

          Call off the victory dance, debbie. This was a victory by the NAACP, who gave tea partyers a ride on their coat-tail.

    • jbgotcha says:

      This is just silly. You really do seem like a megalomaniac with posts like this. Please turn your focus back to ethics reform…at least that has the potential to be a net gain for the state.

  7. debbie0040 says:

    jb, we do have a vision- just not one you like. You continue on with your comtempt and elitist attitude toward everyday citizens. Everyday citizens that got engaged were the reason t-splost went down faster than the titanic. My role was insignificant. It did not even win Fulton or DeKalb. The coalition that was formed was key as well.

    My post was subdued compared to what the pro tax side would have been if t-splost had passed. The people earned the right to gloat in a small degree. The people earned the right to feel good about the over-whelming victory last night.

    And guess what? We are going to be sticking around to be part of the solution.

    • jbgotcha says:

      You assume quite a bit, Debbie. I’m an everyday citizen too and I spend most of my time giving back to my community here in DeKalb. I’m a lifetime resident of Georgia. What’s your long term vision? Maybe I would like it if it existed and provided opportunity for growth. Show me the plan!!

      • jbgotcha says:

        And one more thing…please stop with this rhetoric about ” contempt and elitist attitude toward everyday citizens.” It’s rather ridiculous to accuse someone with a different opinion than you of not being an everyday citizen.

    • GTKay says:

      Debbie, congratulations for a hard fought win. I differ with you calling the tea party’s campaign outside of the box. You said you knew what message would resonate with voters frustrated with out of control spending in Washington and fearful of an anti-capitalist in the White House. So you, Bob Ross, Nolen Cox, and others invoked King George, Nancy Pelosi and Marxist rhetoric in your message. Your tactics are hardly new or innovative. Go ahead and crow, but now you’re the one in the position of having to earn trust. The tea party et al and the candidates supported by the tea party are now going to have to show Georgia that they actually have vision, that they can operate in a mode other than outrage and accusation, and that they can effectively lead Georgia forward and not just obstruct.

      • jbgotcha says:

        I’ve notice that whenever Debbie gets challenged, she responds once and then… *crickets*. This doesn’t bode well for someone claiming to have a long term vision for Georgia.

  8. Bob Loblaw says:

    @Debbie:

    Congrats on a huge win in the Atlanta Region. Bob Loblaw reacts the same, win or lose. Are you still going to sue for the regions that passed the tax? Or was that just doubletalk?

    Interestingly, those three regions are contiguous…a fall line region, if you will.

    How do I like you now? Let’s just say I’ll stay with my experienced, conservative Republican friends because even though we lost, a better class of losers suits me fine :)!

    Enjoy!

  9. Anonymole says:

    What does this mean for a broader consumption tax in this state to replace our income tax, if we cannot even pass a one cent sales tax to support something as essential as transportation?

    • benevolus says:

      Who is going to get anywhere near any kind of tax reform? The only phrase with “tax” in it that has any meaning around here is “tax cuts!” Georgia is already 44th in tax revenue per capita, so I guess we’re aiming to beat out South Dakota!

  10. SmyrnaSAHM says:

    Buzz, I asked this in another thread, and I’ll ask you with complete sincerity: what role do you see municipal elected officials having as the conversation moves forward? Several of your colleagues in the Legislature have made it clear that they view us municipal folks as collectively stupid and corrupt. I think that there are valid reasons that I should be encouraged to participate in the discussion, but do you see that happening?

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