29 comments

  1. Gary Cooper says:

    Ah, what thoughtfulness. The atypical V for Vendetta masks that always show up at these events. How original.

    And then don’t you just love the guy with an American flag in his hand, but wearing a shirt that says “McLenin’s”. Not to mention his pink sunglasses on top of his hat…..and look its dark outside.

    Also get a kick out of the Crony Capitalism signs by someone who just happens to be on her smart phone while another young lad is playing on his MacBook. Darn that capitalism.

    Oh and let’s not forget the loyal supporters of Che Guevara. Now there is someone who just screams Freedom!

    Finally the Teamsters are speaking the truth and its good to see a Troy Davis supporter has managed to stop by this good show. One can only hope that a Mark Macphail supporter was there waving their sign too.

    Ok…enough of my sarcasm. In the mortal words of the restaurant hostess in Ferris Bueller – “I weep for the future”.

    • Engineer says:

      The Guy Fawkes Mask, V for Vendetta mask, is the calling card for folks of Anonymous, aka the folks from a certain well known image board, that I won’t mention by name, so if I had to guess, they are probably there representing that group.

      I checked the Occupy Atlanta live streaming video. They are still doing that stupid repeating every 3-5 words thing. It is really creepy. 😐

      So far all I’ve heard from them are a bunch of complaints but no solutions (other than the worn out slogan of “change”).

  2. Rick Day says:

    Let’s like pretend these images were not carefully hand picked for the fodder of the simple folk.

    Wait…

    Buddy, you better fear for YOUR future because Dino thinkers’s like you are soon to become the next layer of the bone heap known as outmoded thinking.

    These are your future leaders. Get used to it.

    “First they mocked us….”

    • seenbetrdayz says:

      It’s the same nonsense that the Tea Party was subjected to. This is why you can’t just jump on the bandwagon and say that all Tea Partiers are racist, anymore than all OWS folks are communists. But, “journalism” being what it is today, we thrive on the extremes.

      If nothing else, you have to at least view their frustration itself as genuine, and trace back to the causes of it. Lots of folks here are going to suddenly start thinking that we have some sort of healthy capitalistic economy—when in fact, we have corporatism, which has been giving *true* free-market capitalism a bad name. The pseudo-capitalism we’ve been witnessing between the banks, the Federal Reserve, and the D.C. critters is a common enemy, but while one group of people wants to replace it with more government controls, the other group wants to cut out the corruption like the malignant tumor it is, so that competition can once again thrive in the market.

      I’m in the latter group, and it is rather frustrating to me that these people do somehow believe that capitalism somehow led us to the point we’re at now, with bailouts, militarism, and an empty shell of an economy.

    • TheEiger says:

      Hey Rick, are you ever going to answer my questions from a previous discussion? You have convienitley forgot to reply. Do I need to re ask the questions or do you remember all of the demands these goofballs are asking for? I even cited where I found these demands. Again

      1) how will open borders help our country?
      2) how will ending all world debt help our country?
      3) what does $20 an hour reguadless od employment help our country.

  3. saltycracker says:

    As the spread between the haves and have nots widens it gets testy.

    These folks are blaming capitalism when the pain is from those that have misused freedoms. Regulation is important to keep the doors of competition open and close those that do harm.
    Regulation is misused by both parties when they pick the doors we can use.
    The continued increasing market share by the too big to fail banks is a sign.

    • seenbetrdayz says:

      Well, I’ve said time and time again that more regulation is not going to help. We are a nation of lawbreakers (I mean, our own government doesn’t even follow the law), so creating more regulations is not going to prevent the theft/fraud from occurring again.

      It would be nice, though, if we had more justice. Example:

      When BP filled up the gulf of Mexico with oil, regulation failed. That’s understandable, I guess, given the point I made above about regulation/laws only being as good as the people willing to follow them (I should add, though, that the fault was not entirely on BP, since it was regulation that forced them to drill in deeper waters). But what really pissed me off is that there was a liability cap on what oil companies had to pay out in case of a disaster, which means if BP caused $150 million (hypothetical figure; actual figures were much higher, I’m sure) damages to property/lost business along the coast, it was only responsible for $75 million. So if you’re seeking compensation for damages in civil court, and BP has paid out its maximum obligation to others, you’re SOL (unless the government steps in and declares a disaster and gives away aid money, which means BP gets off the hook while the taxpayer is placed on it).

      But congress and the president opt for more regulation, because it gives them more power. If we had more justice, instead of regulation, the government would only flex its muscles when court is in session.

      That’s about the only role government has in the market, to be a mediator between multiple parties when there is a dispute. All this regulation is a bunch of useless garbage, really, and we’re figuring out that it does a better job of keeping competitors out of the market than it does regulating those TBTF.

      • saltycracker says:

        Absent regulation (laws) there is no justice.
        The challenge is regulation that preserves the republic. Genius is in simplicity.

        • seenbetrdayz says:

          Regulation is not law, though, when it seeks to punish everyone before (or regardless of whether) any wrong-doing occurs.

          We have laws against murder, for example. Regulation against murder would be like, someone coming by your house every day and making sure you haven’t murdered anyone and are hiding their remains in your freezer, sort of like how the IRS looks through your paperwork every year so to make you prove you aren’t hiding any money. It looks more like something that would come from a system that operates on a presumption of guilt, rather than innocence.

    • Cassandra says:

      I hate doing math in public:

      One Trillion Seconds = 31,688 Years, 269 Days, 1 Hour, 46 Minutes, 40 Seconds.

      One billion seconds = 32 years.

      One million seconds will pass in the next 12 days.

      If you pay back one dollar of debt every second, it takes twelve days to pay back a million dollars.

      It takes 32 years to pay back 1 billion, at one dollar per second.

      It will take you more than 31,000 years to pay back a trillion dollars.

      WE owe 14.8 Trillion. The federal government spends $1.6 trillion a year more than it receives in revenue. In a few years, $.95 of EVERY dollar the IRS collects will be used to pay the INTEREST on our debt.

      We cannot pay our debt, not soon, not later, not at all.

      WAKE UP!

      I am not praising or acknowledging the OWS message as credible, but they are out there doing something. Until we as Americans get a viable message to WDC, we are our own worst enemy.

      Maybe these folks are ‘useful idiots’ to a sinister pol cause, or maybe they are doing math in public.

      Silence = Consent

  4. cheapseats says:

    I see a lot of commonality with the Tea Party movement but the point that a lot you guys (not all of you) are making is the same as we’ve all heard before: they look silly so we’ll just dismiss the message.

    Why so many who will argue vehemently in favor of protecting 2nd Amendment rights to the extreme and then dismiss and deride people exercising their right to peaceful assembly, petitioning for redress of grievances, free speech, etc. is a bit puzzling.

    These groups may look rag-tag and scruffy (at least they spell) and don’t have a single unified message doesn’t mean that they are completely wrong.

    The point I think they want to make is that a handful of people bet huge on the failure of the American economy and then set about to make it happen. Those few people cashed in on their bets in the game that they rigged. It feels somewhat like economic terrorism but more to the point, it was stupidity for short-term gains to kill off the American consumer. If you kill your customers then you can make big bucks today but it’s not really a sustainable model.

    • Dash Riptide says:

      The point I think they want to make…

      But you just conceded that they “don’t have a single unified message.”

      It’s a disparate coalition of discontented misfits and nothing more. You wish they had a unifying message (of your choosing), but they don’t. I’m not saying their discontent is trivial or that being misfits is a bad thing. I’m just suggesting that you might want to rephrase your analysis in terms of what factors may be contributing to the discontent instead of suggesting that this social manifestation of that discontent has a clear, articulable purpose.

      Generally they’re just trying 60s radicalism on for size with a digital twist. I prefer to enjoy the fascinating wackiness of it all from afar without trying to read too much into it and without being overly critical. If any thought-provoking nuggets do come out of it, so much the better.

      • Rick Day says:

        You don’t get it, do you? The unifying message IS there.

        Let me spell it out for you:

        “Our system of government is corrupted and broken by corporatism. Who agrees?”

        Do you agree with that message, Dash? You do understand the difference between Corporatism and Free Market Capitalism?

        Let me ask you a question: What is the politician’s solution? The D’s n R’s? The POTUS? THE GOP POTUS candidates? The Good Lord Milton F? Answer, there is none. They are all wringing their hands at the mess they allowed to happen, and offering band aid job bills for our economic cancers.

        There are no simple solutions to a systemic problem. Mutual awareness of the problem’s existence is the first important step in consensus; awareness that something is wrong and there needs to be some corrections.

        What you want, Dash, et al, is a jingoistic position to attack, belittle and ridicule. Because the mass media has trained you over the past 20 years to do so. “Get it down to 6 words or it will be lost in the noise.”

        That you are frustrated in this by their lack of a ‘unifying message’ to vilify is unique and refreshing in itself. They won’t play the game by your rules, so you can’t do anything in your paradigm but dismiss them. You have no choice, Dash. You have been programmed by the programming experts.

        “If you do not have power to fight equally, you fight power with cunning and wile”.

        That you and thousands of GOP supporters, who, predictably dismiss this rag tag movement while defending their own rag tag movement, is interesting. The only difference I can see is their rag tag group is not trying to shut the government down.

        Better yet, Dash, what is your solid solution to our economic problems? I sense an underlying sense of classism in your impressions of these citizens (as in they are beneath you). Is this true?

        Do you make less than $25 million a year? Yes? That makes you part of the 99. If you can’t be part of the solution, the stay the hell out of our way.

        • Dash Riptide says:

          I would invite you to reread what I wrote instead of responding to what you read into it, but that would be a waste of time. I prefer to enjoy the fascinating wackiness that is Rick Day from afar without trying to read too much into it and without being overly critical.

          Bless your heart.

      • cheapseats says:

        That’s what I said – the point I think they want to make.

        Saying they don’t have a single unified message and then offering my opinion about what I think they are trying to say does not make any sort of contradiction. I’m offering my interpretation.

        It also supports how this group is similar to the Tea Party – different factions had different areas of focus. Mostly it was about taxation but we also saw tons of different messages that were loosely related – immigration, guns, english-only, healthcare (“Kill the Bill!”), and a host of others that were all over the map. It’s about the same level of coherence and focus in this group.

        Then, you offer up your interpretation – that’s your privilege – when you say “Generally they’re just trying 60s radicalism on for size with a digital twist. ” That point has some merit if you take out the word “just” – where your implication is that this is just a goof or a stunt. I doubt most of them prefer to be sleeping outdoors or spending their days in discomfort. I suspect the majority have much more comfortable surroundings and fun things to do. They’ve chosen to give up a few days or weeks of comfort and self-interest to try to promote and support some kind of message. The fact that you and I are just guessing what the message might be is a communications issue. We don’t really know and they aren’t really able to make us clearly understand. Maybe that’s because they don’t have any better solutions than you or I have at the moment. I can clearly see the problems but I’m not qualified to propose a solution.
        My opinion is that NONE of our currently elected leaders and NONE of the candidates of which I’m aware have the answers and most of them don’t even clearly understand the problems. The basic problem – in my opinion – is the collapse of consumer power, confidence, and resources. No customers means no economy.

        Finally, the best handmade sign that I’ve seen from all these postings reads something like: “The American Middle-Class is Too Big to Fail” – that hits right to the heart of what I think is the real problem. We bailed out the guys in Porsches and BMWs and forgot about the Ford and Chevrolet guys who can’t even afford gas. Without the Chevy guys, the Porsche guys aren’t going to last much longer.

        • Dash Riptide says:

          “I doubt most of them prefer to be sleeping outdoors or spending their days in discomfort.”

          That’s exactly where they want to be. They’re not martyrs. They’re communing and making memories. It ain’t Woodstock, but it’ll do for now.

    • Cassandra says:

      History will note that human specie survived based on it’s ability to moderate greed, war, and ignorance.

  5. Jason says:

    The first picture cracks me up. The guy on the left is wearing a shirt sporting the face of a damned murder who assisted the rise of a dictatorship and the guy on the right is protesting corporations while surfing his Mac.

    • Todd Rehm says:

      Those guys were pretty much the “Central Committee” or whatever you call the simpletons responsible for organizing a disorganized mess of fellow travelers.

    • Baker says:

      I really don’t get it. Some of the points they are trying to make are valid. But read some freaking history books people. Lenin, Che, any movement where the word “proletariat” was thrown around regularly: all of it ends in mass murder (and by mass I don’t mean a few dozen…thousands, hundreds of thousands). You’re not gonna win people over when they see you treating mass murder as a trendy t-shirt theme.

        • saltycracker says:

          kinda like the bearded fat white guy dressed like a buffalo hunter protesting buffalo hunting ?

          Or is he Bear Claw speaking to the cool, soon to achieve self-sufficiency, white guy

          “I know who you are; you’re the same dumb pilgrim I’ve been hearin’ for twenty days and smellin’ for three!”

          Bear Claw to Jeremiah Johnson

  6. jiminga says:

    The one ray of sunshine in all this mindless demonstrating for change (in any of the hundreds of nonsensical demands) is that picture of the cutie with the anti-Fed sign. I agree with her, and hope somebody got her number.

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