Deal Leads New IA Poll.

Via WSBTV.

The poll shows Deal leading by eight points just ten days after a poll showed Deal and Barnes deadlocked. Voters were asked if the election to determine the governor of Georgia were held today, which candidate would they vote for?

The results showed former former Rep. Deal with 45 percent and former Governor Barnes with 37 percent. Libertarian candidate John Monds remained at 5 percent.

13 percent are still undecided, a number that grew slightly from the last survey. The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percent.

70 comments

  1. He should be embarrassed to make his polls public any more. I am a staunch Deal supporter, but this is bogus. I believe we will ultimately win by an 8-10 point margin, but this swing is ridiculous.

    Rountree, others please weigh in on your thoughts.

    • Doug Grammer says:

      I don’t think it’s bogus. I think the financial troubles connect him to the voters in a way that a millionaire can’t. Most people know someone who has lost a job or that have a business that didn’t go as planned.

      • polisavvy says:

        I believe you are correct, Doug. He can relate to more of us than Barnes can, that’s for sure. He has financial woes just like a large number of Georgians (though his are greater than the vast majority of us). I think his willingness to help his child has really garnered him more support. All the people who have reservations about him because of his financial woes who think that WE will be paying for them totally eludes me. Some act as though the Governor can just write checks to whomever he chooses. They actually come across as thinking that he’ll abscond with the State’s money to pay his personal debts. The man has faults — we all do; but, at the end of the day, he’ll get these bills paid off by doing whatever he needs to do to handle them himself in a totally legal fashion. I don’t, for one second, think that he’d ever try to steal State money to do it. Some people on here are still such sore losers. It’s gotten to be terribly annoying. I think it’s time to move on.

        • Paying your bills is nothing noble. It’s the very least thing you can do for society, pay what you contractually owe to others. So let’s not parade around saying “He’s paying his bills” like that’s a great talking point. That’s not the issue. The issue here is that the man obviously has the business sense of a ham sandwich. Is that someone we need to put in charge of the state?

          • polisavvy says:

            Even with his financial issues, I don’t see him as an albatross around the neck of the State of Georgia. Exactly what would he do without input from anyone else? Doesn’t the House and Senate pretty well set what the Governor can and can’t do? Don’t they also kind of control the purse strings? Don’t the many departments of the State have people who are charge of them? A Governor is not a King or a Queen. He doesn’t have the absolute power over that many things at all. There is always someone looking over his shoulder.

            You know that Deal was not my first choice. Austin Scott was. When he switched to the Congressional race, I voted for Karen Handel (twice). I was faced with either not voting for Governor or voting for Governor. I chose to vote which I did yesterday. I had a strategy and a reason for voting for Deal and then, also voting for Cagle (which is something I really had a hard time doing but did anyway).

            • The guv is CEO of the state. Instead of a track record of competent executive leadership, Nathan Deal has managed to either completely or nearly bankrupt himself. I don’t like that in a leader. Crazy, I know.

              • polisavvy says:

                I see your point. I truly do; but, I just happen to see it a little differently. I think that he is more than capable of doing the job. If there was a pattern of bad business dealings, one after the other, then that would be a game changer for me.

        • ZazaPachulia says:

          Before you try to call me a sore loser, let me remind you that I am a Republican and I was not a Handel supporter…

          Now, with that out of the way, Doug and Polisavvy are chugging the kool-aid. Deal’s financial woes — if that’s all there was to it — might endear him to some voters. But Deal did things to cover up the depth of his woes. He also used his influence to maintain a no-bid contract to enrich himself, resigned from Congress before investigations could be completed, spent $130,000 in campaign money on an aviation company he partially owns, rewrote his financial disclosures, refused to take a campaign pledge to put his assets in a blind trust, hid the majority of his tax reports, tried repeatedly to cover up his massive debts and lied about business loans “to create jobs.”

          This guy is either grossly incompetent or he is an outright crook who sees no problems with using his influence and position to enrich himself and his friends. Either way, he has no business being Georgia’s next governor.

          If Deal were a Dem and Barnes was the GOP candidate, Barnes would be leading by 25 points. There’s not much difference between the two (beyond ethics and competency) they’re both lawyers / career politicians who started off as moderate Democrats… the one who switched parties did so to remain in power in increasingly Republican north Georgia.

          • polisavvy says:

            Zaza, I’m not a big fan of Kool-Aid. Coke is my beverage of choice — I’m addicted. Therefore, your whole Kool-Aid theory is not ringing true with me. I said what I said because that’s the way I feel. My feelings weren’t influenced by Doug or Nathan Deal or a damned political ad. I actually put a lot of careful thought into my vote casting for Deal — I had great reservations a week ago but re-evaluated and reconsidered. I don’t follow the leader — I go to my own drummer. This is the way I feel and I’m entitled to that feeling. Likewise, you are entitled to your feeling. I won’t hold it against you, I promise! 😉

      • “I think the financial troubles connect him to the voters in a way that a millionaire can’t.”

        Do you really believe that nonsense? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read all day on this site. People look to their leaders for stability. They want their leaders to be people of accomplishment and strength. If his business failures were such an asset, why did he try to hide them?

        “Nathan Deal: Broke like you” That’s a winner.

        • polisavvy says:

          You and I usually agree on almost everything; however, I think that the statement Doug made is partially true. Too many times we view politicians as unapproachable and out of touch. His financial problems has made him more of a regular Joe than you think. It’s obvious from the newest poll that some people are beginning to see him as just a man with some of the same financial situations they are in. There are a lot of voters in Georgia who have lost everything due to the economy — their businesses, their homes, and their livelihood. They considered themselves stable at a point in time. This makes him more reachable to some voters. I think that’s the point Doug is trying to make.

            • ZazaPachulia says:

              If it was just the finances, Polisavvy, you might have a point. But there’s a lot more to it than that. What about the way voters found out about Deal’s financial woes? What about him using his position to enrich his business? What about him using his campaign funds to enrich his business? What about him refusing to pledge to put his assets in a blind trust while governor? What about the laundry lists of “oversights” on his financial filings? What about his incomplete tax records?

              People like Lynn Westmoreland because he’s approachable. Being broke has nothing to do with whether or not a lawmaker is approachable.

            • polisavvy says:

              Everyone makes mistakes and bad judgment calls, BC. Even the smartest people in the world make mistakes. That’s what makes us human. Do you really think that if he had thought for one second that the business would not make it that he would have sacrificed so much? Of course not. People start up business because they think it’s a good idea — not because they think it’s a bad idea. A lot of businesses that started about the time the economy went south didn’t make it — those are the people that can really relate. We are lucky, our business survived; but, we have had to cut our monthly income 50%. Tell me that’s not tough with a mortgage. Though we survived, we can relate to someone who didn’t. So, people are faced with either staying home, voting for Barnes, voting for Deal, or voting for Monds. Those are the options.

                • polisavvy says:

                  Like I said, I see your point. You can feel one way, and I’ll feel the other. People can vote their conscience between now and November 2nd. I found that he was my lesser of two evils (didn’t like Barnes the first time and didn’t want a rerun). Yes, I could have voted Monds. I had a strategy for voting the way I did. Purely a strategy. Not voting at all became not an option for me.

                  • SFCWallace says:

                    You can’t hate him for “enriching” himself and being broke at the same time…pick a pet flaw and run with it.

                    • ZazaPachulia says:

                      that’s a pretty dumb argument. I would say Deal has resorted to using his position to bail himself out because of his poor business decisions.

                      Ever been interviewed for a security clearance? There’s a good reason why they want to know about large debts.

      • People would have a much easier time trying to swallow Towery’s, DG’s and ps’s BS if it wasn’t for the fact that policies Re-tread Barnes and the Crooked Deal supported are in large part Responsible for most of the economic woes.

        I know I’m an optimist, but based on the Vote Monds subscriber’s comments and what people are actually saying at events all over this state… I have a real good feeling that the Voters of this great state are going to hold these two insiders Accountable on Nov. 2nd.

        • Doug Grammer says:

          -5% for lack of respect. I disagree with Gov. Barnes on many issues, but I still respect the fact that the voters at least once made him Governor.

          Call them “Re-tread Barnes and the Crooked Deal” makes you look like a third grader. Good luck on reaching 5%.

            • Doug Grammer says:

              I’m not attacking the messenger. Your message is to name call. If you have some other message you are trying to convey, it’s lost and covered up by your lack of respect.

              I will agree that Republicans and Democrats are in part responsible for SOME of our woes. They actually have to govern. All your party has to do is talk about how bad the two major parties are, and complain about not having drugs, prostitution, and gambling.

              • OK Doug,
                Since you admitted our bad economy was their fault, I’ll admit that I was being somewhat playful in my name calling… even though it was somewhat true.

                However, your insistence in claiming the LP advocates for drug use and other vices shows your childish understanding of Liberty.

                Our principled position is actually advocating for “Self Ownership” and that government has no business getting involved in people’s personal choices, when those choices don’t infringe on Anyone’s rights (especially if the only bases for that involvement are someone else’s personal morality). However, if one crosses the line of infringement, then by all means, Government not only should , but has the responsibility to get involved.

                Libertarians also have the Adult understanding that one can not give government the authority to ban one substance (marijuana) and not also give them the authority to ban others, like say sugar, milk(raw) or cheeseburgers(sat fats). So I could be childish and say the D’s and R’s are for banning these things, since this is the authority you have given government with your policies and failed war on drugs.

                I could also get into the hypocrisy aspect of allowing Government to choose which vices are allowed and the monopoly aspect of government choosing who gets to provide them (alcohol, lottery, “massage” parlors)… but I think this is enough Adult talk for now… plus, I’ve got to get back out on the campaign trail to assist this election cycle’s Best Candidates (we made it easy for the voters, they’ll be the ones that have an L beside their names).

                • Doug Grammer says:

                  My understand of what the LP stands for come from your platform you have posted online.

                  http://www.ga.lp.org/platform.php

                  “In particular, we advocate repeal of all laws restricting or prohibiting the use or sale of alcohol, sexually explicit material, sexual acts between consenting adults, and drugs within and without the standard pharmacopoeia ….”

                  &

                  “Therefore, we call for the repeal of all laws establishing criminal or civil penalties for the manufacture, use, or sale of drugs”

                  (NOT JUST MARIJUANA)

                  There are the drugs and prositution.

                  “We wish to see an end to the state’s legal monopoly of gambling;”

                  Now tell us your party doesn’t stand for drugs, prositution, and gambling.

                • Libertarians have never and will never be a force in politics in this country. You scanned the whole country and the best “Libertarian” candidate you could find for President was Bob Barr? He fought against legalization of medicinal mariguana for goodness sake. Isn’t that your top issue? (sarcasm) Now in Georgia, you search our great 159 counties and all you can come up with is a “John Monds?” Boy that’s a household name Georgians can relate to.

  2. Jeff says:

    at the end of the day, he’ll get these bills paid off by doing whatever he needs to do to handle them himself in a totally legal fashion

    Just like he got the State to set him up with a totally legal noncompetitve contract that earned him MILLION$, right?

    No, a better statement would be:

    at the end of the day, he’ll get these bills paid off by doing whatever he needs to do to handle them… even when it means screwing Georgians.

    • Doug Grammer says:

      Jeff,

      Get off your high horse and quit rewriting what everyone else has to say. It’s annoying. You are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it may be. Since you capitalized it, prove that Congressman Deal earned MILLIONS. When you can’t, either eat some crow pie, or have a nice glass of “shut the heck up because you don’t know what you are talking about.”

    • polisavvy says:

      Actually, I like my statement better. I’m not a big fan of people trying to mix my words. I said what I felt. I am entitled to do that, am I not?

  3. Herb says:

    Barnes hasn’t even begun to tap into his millions. Once he does, he can effectively define Deal as a corrupt, Washington insider, which will excite his base and turn the Indies over to him. Barnes should win by 16.

    • polisavvy says:

      Well, he better get busy. There is such a thing as “early voting.” I voted yesterday and was told that the turnout has been very good in my county already. The longer he waits to “tap into his millions,” the more votes will already have been cast.

  4. fishtail says:

    I guess Deal bribed Towery….wonder how much to get Towery to cook the numbers for such a drastic change from his last “poll”?

    • polisavvy says:

      Didn’t you hear? He was so popular at the end of his term that we Georgians just couldn’t get enough of him so we all begged him to favor us with another run. Plus, his voice is so sexy that we all wanted to get to hear it every two minutes in an ad on TV. And, last but not least, we all wanted to learn how to add fake flowers to our wardrobe. (All said with the greatest of sarcasm).

      • ZazaPachulia says:

        I was there. I remember. Barnes got voted out of office because of a flag. That was it. Had he not done the right thing and changed the flag, he wouldn’t even be eligible to run this time around.

  5. TPNoGa says:

    I think Barnes has overplayed the Deal “too crooked for congress” schtick. I think people have become immune to that message. He needs something new. Every time I see a Barnes commercial, I tune it out because I already know what it says. If Barnes is still polling in the 30’s after all of his ads calling Deal crooked, it ain’t working.

  6. Georgia Judge says:

    Nathan is the clear choice for Republican voters,regardless of these constant negative attacks by Barnes and the AJC.There was nothing illegal regarding the salvage business and there is no Federal Grand Jury regarding this yet the AJC brings it up in almost every story,biased you think???Deal made an investment that went south,as did many individuals and companies in the last several years.He is not filing bankruptcy and is not insolvent end of story,move on.

    Barnes is getting a pass on his past history,surprise surprise.He was a failure the first time and would be again.His favorable to unfavorable indicates that most Georgians got the joke the first time and dont need to hear it again.

    • I, for one, never claimed that there was anything illegal in regards to the salvage business (although there could be) but it is highly unethical.

      Lots of individuals and companies succeeded in their investments in the last several years also. What do you think separates the ones who failed and now have their solvency called into question from the ones who succeeded? Dumb luck?

      • Roy Barnes may not have dumb luck, but he is pretty lucky. I’m sure his being a former governor had nothing to do with the millions his company (Croy Engineering) made from state contracts.

  7. Georgia Judge says:

    In my opinion the whole salvage issue was way over played in general.His company along with six or so other companies provided a needed service and when the program was discontinued he set up a meeting to ask what was going to replace the much needed inspections,seems reasonable to me .The whole Federal Grand Jury propaganda was merely politics with no substance.

    As far as the business success,no I dont subscribe to the dumb luck theory,but if you were in a business that catered to discretionary spending habits and also included real estate you probably didnt do two well,(ie Sea Island,Amelia Island,and many outdoor related companies)

    Now,conversly if you were a hired gun Trial Lawyer with a $700/hr
    fee structure you did ok……..

  8. Georgia Judge says:

    LT
    That has got to be the most asnine comment that Ive ever read on this blog and that is saying alot. I agree with you completely the AJC hasnt cleared Deal and they wont because he isnt a liberal Dem like your boy Roy.

  9. tahDeetz says:

    Deal will forcefully push back against Obama & his agenda such as Obamacare.

    If appropriate resistance not given, he’ll get primaried.

    Roy will fall all over himself implementing Obama’s agenda.

    In addition, a republican is much preferred to oversee apportionment & redistricting.

    This governor will leave an imprint on Georgia for years to come, long after the campaign minutiae is forgotten.

    tD

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