Barnes Owned 25% Of Company That Made Millions From Governments.

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Roy Barnes owned 25 percent of an engineering firm that did almost $19 million in work for local governments and the state, records show.

The Democratic governor hopeful’s economic disclosure report says Marietta-based Croy Engineering received the money from 2005 to 2009.

The former governor, listed as one of three company directors in a 2006 state document, sold his interest in Croy last November.

Croy or its employees gave $15,800 to Barnes’ campaign, official reports show.


    • Rambler1414 says:

      Since when does “Croy Engineering did almost $19 Million in work” mean Roy Barnes earned $19 Million himself?

      • rightofcenter says:

        Funny. You guys don’t have any problem with the claim that Deal made $300,000 from his “no-bid (non) contract” with the state despite the fact that he is a part-owner of the company and that the figure is a gross figure, not net. But to be consistent would part from your agenda.

        • Rambler1414 says:

          You’ve responded to a simple question by lumping me together with “you guys” and saying I have an agenda. Congratulations.

      • rightofcenter says:

        He was a private citizen? He was a former governor trading off his influence with the state. You few Handel supporters who can’t get over the primary really are amazing.

        • NOT NOT NOT a Handel supporter. Let’s get that out there right now. And everyone who knows me, knows that.

          He had no “influence” as it relates to the power of coersion (which is a contrast to Nathan Deal’s salvage situation). Using the government’s power of coersion to make money for yourself is wrong. That didn’t happen here.

          • ZazaPachulia says:

            Show me that a single one of the Croy contracts was no-bid… And then show me that Barnes or one of his representatives met with lawmakers to ensure that such a contract remained no-bid.

            Then we’ll have a controversy… And I’ll consider voting for Monds.

            (also, I’m NOT NOT NOT a Handel supporter)

            • rightofcenter says:

              I would say that a federal elected official has less influence on state government than a former governor. As for this “contract” you refer to – I wish you would do an Open Records Request, because I don’t think it ever existed. Truly, however, I don’t care who either of you vote for or who you support. I don’t know you (at least I don’t think I know you), and I don’t really want to know you.

  1. hannah says:

    And the point is?
    Never mind that to “make” implies either net income or an individual wage. Engineers typically bill by the hour, like lawyers, plus a percentage for overhead.
    Good example of how an accurate statement can be misleading.

  2. Romegaguy says:

    I wonder if they charged more than their competitors and won their government business without having to bid on anything. I also wonder if any of this is fully disclosed in Barnes’ tax records he released.

  3. Mike Hauncho says:

    What did you expect him to do? He took full advantage of his years of public service by making millions after being fired by the people. As long as this was done legally there is nothing really wrong about it. However, it does create a problem since he is trying to get back in office.

    Did Croy Engineering build his million dollar mansion is Marietta?

  4. hewhoone says:

    I am no fan of Roy Barnes, but what is the difference between what Barnes has done and what Fulton County Commissioner Tom Lowe continues to do with Lowe Engineering?

  5. bgsmallz says:

    Holy Crap.

    Deal’s ‘gotchas’ are the flimsiest, worst thought out, headline but no substance stories that I have ever seen. Seriously, is this the best we’ve got?

    1- Correct me if I’m wrong, but this information didn’t come from some Channel 11 investigative report…it came from Barnes disclosures! Let’s let that sink in. Deal’s camp is calling Barnes a hypocrite for fully disclosing his private income while he was a private citizen while Deal can’t give us anything more than cover sheets from his tax returns for the years he has been in office.

    2- The fact that Roy had some cache as the former governor and had contacts/networks to help his business while he was a private citizen is probably undeniable. But that goes to the issue of what is an acceptable benefit of being a former public servant and back into the private sector. It’s a legitimate inquiry…how much do we concern ourselves with a candidates connection to the government during his time as a private sector employee/business owner? Will it influence his/her decisions? How much? But that is an inquiry we have had to make since 1789. (Think Jefferson’s owning slaves never came up as a reason he would be soft against slavery?)

    Having said that…this is different than Barnes profiting off the state while he concurrently held a position of influence over the state.

    Just to make sure I hit home on #1…Barnes provided this information. Seriously, people. We need accountability from our leaders. I actually appreciate disclosure so we can have this type of discussion.

    It beats wondering what the candidate is hiding, no?

    • ZazaPachulia says:

      Well said, Bgsmallz.

      Getting rich is part of the post-political game. Always has been. Book deals, speaking tours, business connections… Ain’t saying its right, but it what it is. Even if Deal loses this election, surely he’s got something lucrative coming his way.

  6. fishtail says:

    BUZZ…Nice try, but no cigar for you this time. First, how does the public and media know that Roy Barnes had a 25% investment stake in Croy Engineering? Answer…Barnes released a FULL DISCLOSURE of his tax returns, that’s how we know. Second, Barnes was a private citizen holding no public office while he owned part of Croy. Now please contrast this with Nathan Deal’s refusal to release a FULL DISCLOSURE of his income tax records and please note that Deal was at all times a US Congressman (supposedly full-time) while he started up his salvage business that had a sweet heart arrangement with the State. Also, Barnes sold his interest in Croy before he announced for Governor. Deal has not sold his interest in the salvage business. Buzz, you’re going to be in the deep-freezer when Barnes is elected Governor so remember to bring your parka to the Capitol in January.

    • ZazaPachulia says:

      Man, I forgot Buzz is a politician these days… Couldn’t he have had the common sense to have the Robespierre of Macon generate this post?

  7. georgiahack says:

    If the company did a good job, did not overcharge the state for services provided, and was done by the book, then who cares.

    When he was Guv, Barnes put all of his assets in a blind trust. Perdue on the other hand has grown and expanded his empire. I much prefer the Barnes model to the Perdue one.

  8. bowersville says:

    Privatize, privatize. privatize….

    Private industry can do it better than government. I heard Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh preach it for years and Barnes does it and what?

    Get over yourselves, you wouldn’t have known it had Barnes not disclosed it.

    • Goldwater Conservative says:

      Do not just stop with Barnes, Bowersville.

      President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid all support the concept of contracting out to private companies. For one, they do it because they are neither socialists nor are they communists. It saves money, it is more efficient, it reduces the number of bureaucrats between the decision to provide a service and the providing of a service (do not forget that the private sector is actually more bloated with its own red-tape and bureaucracy that is not government imposed).

      Nobody post-Osbourne & Gaebler (Reinventing Government…aka the Clinton-Gore Administration) believes the government can do a better job at those things. That being said, a line in the sand must be drawn because only the government can establish and promote justice and private contractors only get involved in the aspects of public goods that have profit potential.

      After all, big agribusiness could have provided subsidies 70 years ago…but they refuse because the demise of the small farmer was ultimately what they would benefit from. Same goes for food stamps. The biggest beneficiary of SNAP (supplemental nutritional assistance program…aka food stamps) is ConAgra. When a company that big and with that many lobbyists is able to pocket an extra $3billion a year because the poor are able to buy their products…do you really think welfare will go away or is non-capitalist? In fact, several arguments can be made that government programs to help the poor are a direct result of hyper-capitalism. Of course you will not here such a thing from the people’s autocracy of glennbeckistan…he is not interested in teaching you anything, he only cares about ratings and keeping ratings up by telling you what you want to hear. Really though, can we expect more from a religious zealot demagogue college drop out?

  9. Goldwater Conservative says:

    Well, in all fairness to Governor Barnes…he was not in office and purposefully directing money to those companies.

    Deal was in office and purposefully directing money to his companies.

    Big difference.

  10. DenKon says:

    This is surely making a mountain out of an anthill. Private citizen Roy Barnes had a financial interest in a company that did business with GA state government. Since the executive and legislative branches are firmly under Republican party control, I can’t see how Barnes could leverage any political influence for advantage in bidding. Not like Deal and his connection to no-bid contracts.

  11. James Fannin says:

    One of the reasons I supported Karen Handel was I didn’t believe and neither did she that public employees should use their office to profit from their public service and further, that Georgia needed strong conflict-of-interest laws and full disclosure. Deal essentially argued in debates that it was unreasonable to expect part-time legislators not to feather their own nest and that full disclosure was the better way to go. I agree to a point on the value of transparancy but for his part , Deal has never fully disclosed anything. According to his federal financial disclosures, he never disclosed any outside income from his salvage business and there were other significant omissions. And now he refuses to disclose his full tax returns so voters can understand how he got such a great tax rate . Clearly he is taking some significant “business loss” deductions and I imagine full disclosure would provide some important insight into how fiscally responsible he may or may not be.

    As for Roy Barnes, I find the charge that this defeated Democratic governor got special treatment from the Perdue administration to be laughable. Does anyone believe Sonny and staff sat around thinking of ways to help ole Roy? Not likely.

    There are a lot of reasons not to like Roy Barnes or want to see him in office starting with his incredible arrogance, his ads that indicate the rest of the country is laughing at Georgia or the fact that he is a damn trial lawyer. I don’t want him to be governor and I will vote for Nathan Deal as the least bad option, but I sure wish Deal and his supporters would demonstrate that they understand (if they do) why it is wrong to use your public office for personal financial benefit. Nathan had a sweet deal for years; when he was exposed, he should have just said “it was a good deal while it lasted” and walked away. He didn’t. He fought and he used taxpayer resources in his fight to keep the deal – real.

    • justpeachy says:

      James Fanin you couldn’t have said it better. So many Karen supporters were there because of her ethics reform. Deal is a far cry from KH Ethics. Politically I can’t stand Barnes but also from what I can see there’s nothing wrong with is dealings with Croy. It appears they were contract agreements, made money, sold out when he ran for governor. I don’t think it compairs to Deal’s no bid contract. Deal’s team is going to have to either dig deeper to compare.

  12. Lone Star Georgian says:

    I’m really quite impressed with the level of backlash against this ridiculous post. Way to show your independent stripes, PP readers.

    Classic example of trying to neutralize criticism by creating confusion over whether Roy Barnes and Nathan Deal did similar things. And kudos to those with a sense of nuance who realize that the answer is a resounding no.

    • ZazaPachulia says:

      “I’m really quite impressed with the level of backlash against this ridiculous post. Way to show your independent stripes, PP readers.”

      Me too.

      Nice backlash to the Marshall post the other day, too. We’re no, which is why I like reading this site. We actually try to look at all the angles (or some of us do).

      • rightofcenter says:

        Well, I hope you guys don’t bruise because you pat yourselves on the back too much. PP readers are not an independent bunch – just a bunch of Deal haters. Few Republicans even bother to come around any more. It’s hard to tell the difference between Peach Pundit and the AJC blogs these days. I had stopped reading it, myself, until I foolishly checked it out to see if intelligence had resurfaced. Sadly, it hasn’t. Well, at least it didn’t take long for me to see that nothing has changed. Selah!

  13. Three Jack says:

    dick cheney made tens of millions as ceo of a company with no-bid government contracts…are you saying roy barnes is like a mini-me millionaire to the former vp and secdef?

  14. kolt473 says:

    Deal should be hitting KING ROY back with same ads both are allegedly corrupt and would be bad for GA. KING ROY complete huckster, Mond’s may be a LIBERTARIAN but looking better as election comes closer crooked politicians have made it impossible to find any decent candidate, reason OBAMUNISM continues to lie and deceive. People wish to be deceived, even though they wish you powerless through subjugation, communist laws. The BORG and DEMOCRATS, have one common denominator, total assimilation of society as we have formerly known it.

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