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    • polisavvy says:

      LOL! That’s for sure. She exited with such grace and dignity. I hope that her supporters and the Deal supports can have a kumbaya moment; however, I think it’s going to take a length of time and some serious thought. There were a lot of daggers thrown by each camp at one another. Some of the daggers actually hit nerves that aren’t going to be easily healed.

  1. debbie0040 says:

    Keep in mind we need to get behind Nathan Deal. We have to start now to defeat Roy Barnes. Re-districting will be done under the next Governor..

      • debbie0040 says:

        I am not sure if it can either. It definitely caused a rift with Christian conservatives. I would never associate with GRTL or some of the Deal supporters that were going around saying you were not a true Christian if you supported Handel. Deal needs to put those people way in the back ground or there is no chance at healing…

        • MSBassSinger says:

          I haven’t heard or read anything like “you were not a true Christian if you supported Handel”. Are there any links available that you could provide as examples? I don’t doubt you, but I’d sure like to see some examples.

          I voted for Deal, and I am a Christian, but I recognize that Christians can differ on such things. I don’t recall anything in Scripture that ties who I vote for to my salvation.

          • debbie0040 says:

            I will try to find the email or Facebook postings. One of the emails was sent to a friend in Cobb and it was from the guy that heads up GRTL.

            • Provocateur says:

              That would be quite the e-mail to see since GRTL is not a religious-based organization, and I highly doubt Becker would invoke the “Christian” card to make points.

              HIGHLY DOUBT IT.

              • Buzzfan says:

                …since GRTL is not a religious-based organization,…”

                You’d never know it from reading their “E-News” site.

                “Anything that sows confusion and doubt, instead of truth, can only be from the devil.”

                Yeah, that sounds secular.

                • Provocateur says:

                  At least they didn’t call it “Satan” or “The Anti-Christ.” Then you might have a more serious point win.

            • eschristian says:

              It should not be hard to find – the posts were EVERYWHERE!!!

              I am looking at 3rd parties to vote for in this race. Normally this would NOT be the case & other races it will not be however…

              With my choices being: dem and an ex-dem OR a 3rd party

              Being the ex-dem with all his ethical problems & possibly could get indicted between now the election will most likely not win why would I go against my principles and vote for him? Why because he has an (R) behind his name? Sorry GOP – you always have a tendency to screw things up & yet again it’s screwed up!!!

        • Red Phillips says:

          Debbie, it is equally harmful and rift causing when the groupthink social issue phobics equate any concern about gay marriage etc. with “hating” gay people. This is liberal PC nonsense and should be immediately called out for the simple-minded and inaccurate formulation that it is by all right thinking people both right and center. But instead they all mindlessly continue to blather about “hating teh gayz” even using the same silly language as if they are completely incapable of an original thought. Even if I was a social issues phobic I would be embarrassed to use “hating teh gayz” because IT HAS BEEN SO RIDICUOUSLY OVERDONE! MOVE ON PEOPLE! They should try having an original thought or at least an original expression of a thought.

    • Tiberius says:

      The Courts will draw the plan.

      The DOJ will not approve anything this Legislature passes. If Barnes agrees to a compromise with the GOP Legislture, the DOJ will still send it to the courts.

    • polisavvy says:

      Nope. Did you hear what he told reporters this morning at the Unity Breakfast? In case you didn’t, he told them something like for the first time in 16 years, I don’t care what you say about me. That may not be verbatim, but it’s close.

  2. bluedogdem says:

    LMAO…You GOPers are so funny. Deal was the worst candidate every a few days ago and now you say you can vote for him. This is getting funny. Also the Tea Party is done with. THey did not have ONE candidate win in a Statewide race. The only Tea Party candidate that won was Jason Spencer from House D-180 I believe. This district is in Camden County. I want to make clear that I love the Tea Party’s and I consider myself a Tea Party, but the main difference is I will be hijacked by the GOP. THat is the problem with the Atlanta Tea Party and thats why no one respects that group.

    • debbie0040 says:

      Tea parties did not endorse even one candidate in a statewide race so they could not have a candidate to win or not win. Atlanta Tea Party endorsed 11 candidates and 8 won. I am not aware of any tea party that endorsed Spencer. Maybe you should at least make an attempt to get your facts straight.

      Why would you allow yourself to be hijacked by the GOP? Is that something you want to happen?

      GOP Primaries are like brothers and sisters playing a game of touch football. There may be on opposite teams during the game, but after the game is over, they are still brothers and sisters. They will call each other names but don’t let an outsider came in and do the same or they will be met with fierce opposition.

    • Tireless says:

      LMFAO…..you are as clueless as every libtard I know. The Tea Party is a movement, not a political party. There isn’t a single Tea Party, a single list of Tea Party candidates or a single Tea Party spokesman. Try to keep up. Better yet, do something productive today and replace the Obama bumper stickers on your Yugo.

    • debbie0040 says:

      Bluedog, I bet your preferred candidate did run in the GOP primary but never got close to making the runoff.

  3. Bens says:

    My family and some of my neighbors – all Handel supporters – have announced their intention to vote for Roy Barnes in November.

    What would be wrong with a Dem governor and GOP legislature?

    • Tiberius says:

      If Barnes wins, it will be viewed as a victory for Obama and be spun by the press that Democrats can indeed win in the South.

      I am a Fulton voter who voted for Johnson and then Handel. There are bigger issues here.

      • NoTeabagging says:

        Tiberius, your notion that a Barnes win is a victory for Obama is exactly what I hate about party politics. I think it is a big myth that the parties live by. The same thing happens with legislation. Majority party introduces bill, minority party refuses to vote for it thinking the public will credit majority party for it, run to polls and empty their wallets in support. It doesn’t work for me.

        • Doug Grammer says:

          You may hate guilty by association and you may hate political parties. I am not going to tell you your beliefs are wrong. However, under our system, we have an option as running a member of a political party or as an independent. Running as a member of a political party means you agree with the majority of their platform, or you just say you do so you can get elected. The President is the biggest member of the political party, regardless of which party it may be. By deciding to run as a Democrat, Gov. Barnes is on the same stage with President Obama, with his arm around him, even if he decides to be out of town the day the President comes to town.

          • “Running as a member of a political party means you agree with the majority of their platform, or you just say you do so you can get elected.”

            Like Saxby, Isaakson and Deal. 🙂

    • AnyoneElse2010 says:

      Reapportion. You and your family are helping set up Georgia for years of fighting and gridlock in the Ga. General assembly. Good job, but please don’t go around calling yourself a conservative or a republican. And obviously you did not trust Handel that much if you don’t heed her words.

      • seenbetrdayz says:

        Gridlock. Hmmm.

        I’m trying to remember what’s so bad about ‘doing nothing’, when ‘doing wrong’ has been the typical trend. What other positive outcomes might a Dem. Governor/Rep. Assembly bring about?

    • Bens says:

      Thank you for your responses 🙂

      Another question: I am an economic conservative and social libertarian. With Handel’s concession, is economic conservatism now off the table in this race?

  4. debbie0040 says:

    Supporter,
    The past 16 months has been an extraordinary journey for Steve and me. Unfortunately, this particular journey now comes to an end. With virtually all of the votes counted, we are about 2,400 votes short. With some absentee ballots and the overseas military votes yet to be counted, we certainly have the option of requesting the automatic statewide recount. But we are not going to do that. I’ve talked with Nathan today to congratulate him on being our party’s nominee.
    There are so many people to thank. The campaign team is one exceptional group of individuals who put their lives on hold for this effort. The grassroots leadership team across the state put in hours upon hours of their time and invested their hard work on behalf of this campaign. I appreciate the support of those elected officials who were willing to go against conventional wisdom and support this underdog campaign. And, to you, I offer my heartfelt gratitude for your support and confidence.
    Now, my friends, we must move forward and unite. Throughout this tough campaign, Nathan and I were competitors – never enemies. The real enemy is Roy Barnes. And, to defeat him in November, our nominee will need your help. It is with this in mind that I call on all of you to give Nathan your support and energy in the months ahead.
    I have dealt with a lot in my life, and my faith and friends have always seen me through, and these two constants– along with my incredible husband Steve – will do the same again. “For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “Plans to prosper you and not to harm, plans to give you hope and a future …” (Jeremiah 29:11) And so, it with His words in our hearts that Steve and I look to the future with confidence and certainty for all that He has awaiting us. Your friendships have so enriched our lives, and for that, we are grateful.
    Karen & Steve

    • zigmaster says:

      “It is with this in mind that I call on all of you to give Nathan your support and energy in the months ahead”

      Wait a minute, you want us to support a “corrupt relic”?

        • I think it’s a fair question. She called him a corrupt relic and now she’s asking everyone to support him. So you have no problem with Karen wanting people to support a “corrupt relic” then?

          • Doug Grammer says:

            I have a problem with the words “corrupt relic.” I think she said what she thought she had to say in order to win. If she really felt that way, why she endorse him?

            • “I have a problem with the words “corrupt relic.” I think she said what she thought she had to say in order to win.”

              So basically you’re saying she didn’t have enough self control and dignity to say what she really wanted to say, but instead said what she thought she had to say to win? Oh ok, that makes it so much better. Thanks for the explanation. I disagree, but at least you’re sticking to towing the party line. It’s a heavy line to tow when you’re stuck in that much mud, isn’t it?

                • “Have you had a conversation with her? After the run off? Ever? If not, why do you disagree?”

                  No, but I’m assuming that you have being in the position that you’re in. I was taking you at your word. Was that wrong of me? You said – “I think she said what she thought she had to say in order to win.” I was just extrapolating that if she said what she had to say to win, perhaps that’s not what she really thought. In that case, why did she hold back what she really thought?

                  • Furthermore, if you’re saying that she said something that she knew not to be true, isn’t that what’s called a lie? Are you saying it’s okay to lie if that’s what it takes to win?

                    • Doug Grammer says:

                      I’m not going to comment on the veracity of all of her statements, but it will suffice to say that she did not win.

                      Yes, I have chatted with her many times. I think she could have been Governor, but it’s not going to happen now. People can Monday morning quarterback the whole primary and run off as to why some people won and others lost.

                      Personally, I would rather lose an election than win it in a way that I did not feel comfortable with. If nothing else, I will share that I was disappointed with the use of the word “relic.” I think that word cost her at least 2,500 votes. People who vote the most are in the highest age bracket.

      • Lady Thinker says:

        You? The “Mustang Sally” guy, who did not want Karen to win? Now you still find fault? Does anything make you happy?

  5. drjay says:

    logistical question, does handel concession stop the process? will they still count the outstanding ballots (provisionals, military, whatever)? and if they do, on the off chance they changed the result…does the sos declare as the winner the highest vote getter, or does the concession remain in effect?

    • Red Phillips says:

      drjay, I have always been baffled by this notion of conceding as well. Functionally it will mean that she is not demanding a recount. Good. But what if the outstanding uncounted ballots changed the outcome? Would her concession give it to Deal anyway? I guess there is a tradition behind it, and in a not close race where the final outcome is not in doubt it makes more sense, but in a close race like this it just seems silly. It functionally has no meaning (other than the recount), but people act as if it does. “Oh well, Handel has conceded. I guess that settles it.”

      • Buzzfan says:

        Red, it won’t be official until all ballots are counted and Kemp’s office certifies the election results (Monday or shortly thereafter). The official winner will be named then.

        *IF* the certified vote changes the outcome, Karen will be the nominee. If not, it’s Deal.

        By making a quick and gracious concession throwing her support behind Deal…and urging her supporters to do likewise…she has all but guaranteed Deal would be bound to do the same should the unlikely occur.

        I’m very pleased she did this.

          • Buzzfan says:

            Gotcha. I don’t always read all the posts in a thread before replying. 😉

            Again, I think it was a smart move…..call it “moving to expeditiously replant all that scorched earth” theory. :-Þ

        • Lady Thinker says:

          Buzzfan,

          Thanks for that perspective. I had not thought of it that way and if she were to win in the end, I don’t see Deal being gracious, I think it is too personal for him.

    • Red Phillips says:

      Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about from the AJC article.

      “In a statement just released from the Handel campaign, she said she called Deal this morning to concede the nomination. The November ballot is now set.”

      The ballot is “now set” because she conceded? No it isn’t. It isn’t “set” until all the votes are tallied. Here the act of conceding is treated as if it has real functional significance, when it doesn’t. I don’t guess this should bother me, but for some reason it does.

  6. GaConservative23 says:

    I am very impressed with the way Handel has handled the situation (unintentional pun).

    Hopefully her supporters will follow her lead and we can all unite behind Deal and keep Barnes from moving this state backwards.

  7. debbie0040 says:

    They have to continue counting ballots and certify the results to the SOS. Every ballot has to count and the SOS has to certify the winner. If a miracle happens and Handel finds the votes to win, she will be declared the winner. The odds are slim that will happen. It is time to move on

  8. NoTeabagging says:

    Karen just lost what little credibility she had left by endorsing Deal. Guess she had to drink the Republican Kool-Aid this morning along with her bitter “morning after” pill. That loyalty oath makes people say the craziest things.

  9. Max Power says:

    By any objective measure the state was better off under Barnes than Perdue. If Deal manages to win, there’s something very wrong with the Georgia electorate.

  10. zigmaster says:

    How bad is Erick wishing he went with his gut and backed Eric Johnson? Johnson would have defeated either one of these folks by 5+ pts last night.

  11. Three Jack says:

    handel’s eloquent concession does not erase the fact that the gop nominee carries more baggage than a delta handler at atlanta airport. putting aside his ethical lapses, he still voted for medicare part d, nclb and so many other big nanny debt increasing programs. there is no difference between raw deal and king roy.

    the following statements appear on the gubernatorial candidate websites…deal or barnes?

    “As governor, I will not support teacher furloughs and I will not renege on salary obligations. We must continue to remind ourselves that a robust public education system is the only guarantee that our children – and our families – have for a promising tomorrow. Protecting public education is key to making Georgia work.”

    “He has worked as a strong advocate for public education throughout his career in public service. Both of his parents and his wife worked their entire careers as Georgia public school teachers. It’s no surprise that he treats our public educators like family.”

    “Once we show our neighboring states that Georgia is serious about reducing its burden on Lake Lanier, we will position ourselves for more favorable congressional and legal outcomes.”

    “As governor, he will take his experience with water issues to work cooperatively with the next governors of Florida and Alabama to reach a resolution that protects Georgia’s right to much-needed water.”

    “Voters expect those who they send to elected office to act with their best interests in mind, not his or her own. That is exactly the commitment to public service he will bring to the office of the governor.”

    “If given the opportunity to serve as Governor in 2010, I plan to place my assets in a blind trust for the duration of my governorship. Georgians deserve a leader who is open and honest, with nothing to hide.”

      • Doug Grammer says:

        I think Three Jack just wants his pot to be legal. People vote for candidates for different reasons. Pot might be his reason.

        • Three Jack says:

          legal pot is a great idea, not going to happen with either of the old guys representing the major parties. i’d settle for sunday alcohol sales, but realize that is as likely as you having a clue.

          what’s wrong doug, you realize just how little difference there is between two over 60 relics so you make a futile attempt at humor? both have a long record of supporting big government…why are you so ignorant as to think raw deal will at age 68 suddenly become a conservative?

          • Doug Grammer says:

            I have a clue that Sunday Sales is much more likely than legalized pot. The rest of your trash talk isn’t worth responding to…today. I’m not in the mood.

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