Superspeeder #FAIL

The AJC reports that the superspeeder program, which was supposed to fund trauma care, isn’t bringing in anywhere near the amount expected:

State officials had hoped to raise $24 million or more a year from the increased fees on speeding tickets and reinstated driver licenses, but the program raised only about $2 million in its first year, according to state figures.

State projections estimated there would be as many as 163,779 superspeeders annually, but the state has sent only 17,104 superspeeder notices to drivers in the first six months of 2010.

67 comments

  1. Brave New World says:

    Just lower all speed limits, make the penalties greater, and we will have enough revenue to continue spending $38 B per year.

    Actually, we need to stop spending $38 B of the taxpayers, and we need to have individual restitution for property damages and personal bodily harm.

  2. bowersville says:

    It’s time for everybody to contribute their fair share to trauma care. Stay off public transportation and drive faster.

    And what’s with the personal responsibility, we’re all in this together.

    For the meek at heart, sarcasim is intended.

      • polisavvy says:

        You are on a roll! I have gotten almost self-conscious about my posts. I catch myself checking the spelling twice before I hit the “submit” button.

      • bowersville says:

        I have been waiting patiently on this, thank-you. How do you know whether some one you do no agree with intentionally makes spelling/ grammatical errors intentionally just to aggravate you? I have noticed one or two errors you have made. But who’s counting? If my mistakes aggravate you, too bad.

        If you wish to be the spelling/grammar police…fine. Just go give out your worthless parking tickets elsewhere ’cause

        I kaint spail tu good an my gramers worser and i dont keer. K?

  3. As I alluded to before on another thread, they would raise a lot more money selling “Super Speeder” passes and have “Super Speeder” lanes.. .—–VROOOOOM—–>

  4. chefdavid says:

    During budget hearings this year I was cracking up as one Rep was asking if the Gov. Office of Hwy Saftey was advertising the law to much and that made the state not collect enough money. His response was somethiing like “Mam our job is keeping people safe.”
    Like my ole buddy say’s here in Dade. (that is rabbit for you locals.) “If money makes it right was it ever wrong in the first place?”

  5. Lady Thinker says:

    While speeding is dangerous, I think tailgaters are worse. If a tailgator and the car he/she is tailgating were to blow a tire, there would be a traffic death. Why do either one?

    • LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

      We finally agree on something LT. Although failure to use a turn signal is my main pet peeve. Drivers don’t seem to understand that “your” turn signal is there to let me know what you’re about to do.

      It’s also a moving violation: Improper Lane change.

      • Lady Thinker says:

        Wow, you agree with me? You are not a bad person after all!!! Just kidding.

        I looked in my rear view mirror while traveling in the right, not the left, the right lane of 400 South passing the McFarland exit on Wednesday to see a tailgatOR so close to me that I could see her thumbs pecking out a message. She was had her left hand at 11 on the steering wheel and her right hand at 1. I took my foot off the accelerator and started to gradually slow down from about 68 to 55. She finally passed me to tailgate the unlucky person in front of her, still texting the entire time. Now that is dangerous but I decided that if she was going to hit me, maybe I would have a better survival rate at a lower speed. I can’t think of anything so important that she had to jeopardize so many lives for that day.

      • polisavvy says:

        And, while we’re at it, let’s not forget the ones who don’t understand what a yield sign means. And, God help us here where I live, because people can’t get the concept of a four-way stop — they just sit there looking so confused as to what to do next and who should go.

  6. Atticus Grinch says:

    I am tired of the State, the counties and every municipality relying on the violation of laws and the court system as a source of tax revenue. Then, they lie about it by saying the Superspeeder laws and the red light cameras (just to cite two examples) are all about public safety. They don’t give two hoots in hell about public safety unless (a) it generates money or (b) it makes them look tough on crime. Do the “get tough” measures work .. are they effective ? Who cares .. why does that matter .. if it raises money and gets me re-elected, I am for it.

    The GOP doesn’t raise taxes but they sure raise every fee and fine under the sun. Government revenue that comes out of citizens’ pockets is a tax, even if you call it a fine or a fee.

    • bgsmallz says:

      “Don’t tread on me”, right? How about this…why don’t you use your personal freedom to not create externalities that I and the rest of society have to pay for? Or do you not realize you want your cake and want me to pay for it, too?

      No one is taking away your right to go fast. However, they are incentivizing you to go slower by making you periodically contribute to the costs you create for the rest of us by driving fast. You really don’t have to pay a superspeeder ticket if you don’t want to. Hell, you don’t have to drive if you don’t want to. But if you are going to do either, I want you to contribute to the costs that you put back on me and others.

      One point Jason doesn’t point out is that one of the reason revenue collection is down is that the behavior has changed. Is this so bad? Fatal accidents are down 16% in the first 6 months of 2010 compared to last year. (http://www.ajc.com/news/superspeeder-program-off-to-582347.html)

      Anyway, I think it is certainly debatable whether trauma care is part of the infrastructure that we should be funding (you know…because we do need to fund infrastructure through taxes, right?)…but crying about counties collecting monies on speeding tickets without being upset that jackholes drive at dangerous speeds without simultaneously having a trust account to pay for the cost of their reckless behavior is…well…

      • polisavvy says:

        I think your post is pretty spot on. If the “superspeeder” law has saved one life because someone chose to drive slower rather than pay the fine if caught, then it’s had some value. Higher revenues or a life saved — I guess we should figure out which we’d rather have? Of course, that’s just my opinion.

  7. Dave says:

    I’d love to see the results of Open Records requests that ask for any memorandum or correspondence from sheriffs/police to their officers concerning the writing of tickets. I wonder if there would be any mentioning of the revenue raised by the issued tickets? If so, then we’d know, instead of suspect. that they’re lying when they say it’s just for the “public safety.”

  8. Romegaguy says:

    My understanding is that city and county police forces arent issuing the super speeder fines because all of the fine would go to the state unlike regular speeding tickets where city and counties get to keep most of the fines collected

    • gatormathis says:

      My probate judge who handles this says every thing in the process is the same. You get a ticket, pay the appropiate amount, and they turn in the info to the Traffic Safety Dept. that this info goes to. Then, if the ticket is in the Superspeeder catorgory, the State sends you a nice little letter stating you have qualified for the booby prize of an additional fee, please remit said amount to the following…….everyone keeps the same amonut, and the state gets the additional amount, which is hefty enough on the first bounce, but I think also increases with additional infractions. About one or two shots of SuperSpeeder law is enough to make a believer out of folks.
      My old stuff just won’t run that dang fast without shakin and pieces fallin off……….

  9. Gary Cooper says:

    Don’t they know local police agencies and sheriff departments lower the speed limit when they give you a ticket. So if someone actually did 85 on the interstate when the speed limit is 70, I am sure that speed got bumped down to a 81 mph so as to assist.

    Local law enforcement does this all the time, especially with younger drivers regarding going 21mph or faster over the speed limit. They all bump the mph down enough to keep them out of trouble, but still have to pay a fine. I bet the same thing is going on with this stupid super speeder law. You want to raise trauma care money??? Then go and get what is owed to our trauma centers from those who require the services. Your raising fees on every thing else and expect us to pay up so why no those who require the trauma care.

    • analogkid says:

      I can personally attest to cops doing what you described in the first paragraph. It happened to me Spring Break 1995 (Wooooo!). GSP lowered my speed 3 or 4 mph in order to save me about $100.

        • analogkid says:

          Never been caught or never been ticketed? Women seem to be “luckier” in avoiding tickets. 🙂

          • Kellie says:

            never caught. If I am ever caught don’t put it past me to try and talk my way out of it. 😉
            (I actually don’t drive that fast which is why my record is so good)

            • seenbetrdayz says:

              When they try to pull you over for super-speeding, just go into ultra-speeding mode until you can’t see them in your mirrors anymore. There’s also an upgrade to warp-speeder, but I hear that it is highly dangerous.

      • gatormathis says:

        …and that came with some yessir and nosir I bet, just get out of the vehicle with some “What the hell are you stopping me for now…” and see how it goes….lol…

    • Lady Thinker says:

      Gary,

      It is hard to get the homeless, unemployed, and underemployed to pay for medical services when they don’t always have the means in this economy to keep a roof over their heads.

      Although I have insurance, because of the economy and the fact that I have to take care of my aged mother, I recently got a full-time job to supplement my three part-time jobs. I am hoping to be able to give one of the part-time jobs up in January, maybe.

      Because of my economic condition, there is no way I can afford a ticket much less a superspeeder ticket, so I am the one going the speed limit.

  10. Life and Liberty says:

    Starting tomorrow, the GSP will begin issuing tickets for suspected texting while driving. Perhaps they’ll be able to make up this revenue shortfall with that new push.

  11. NoTeabagging says:

    The average driving speed on Metro ATL highways is 15 mph over the posted limit. You drive 55 and you will likely get rear ended. Just how fast do you have to go to get a ticket? I’ve actually seen state patrols on I75 with speed guns monitoring cars doing +70 and they never go after them. Is it not worth their time? Or do they make more money on one superspeeder ticket? How many regular tickets would they have to write to equal one superspeeder ticket?

    • Lady Thinker says:

      According to some of my police students, most departments give 5 to 15 miles over, however, some small city police departments write tickets for one or two miles over the limit. It depends on the jurisdiction and is not uniform throughout the state.

      • One or two miles over the speed limit should be a $0 fine… why bother?

        OCGA 40-6-1 has something to say about speeding fines:
        (1) By five miles per hour or less shall be no dollars;
        (2) By more than five but not more than ten miles per hour shall not exceed $25.00;
        (3) By more than ten but not more than 14 miles per hour shall not exceed $100.00;

        Add to that the inability of anyone other than a Georgia State Patrol Trooper to write tickets based on radar / laser under 11 mph…

        § 40-14-8. When case may be made and conviction had

        (a) No county, city, or campus officer shall be allowed to make a case based on the use of any speed detection device, unless the speed of the vehicle exceeds the posted speed limit by more than ten miles per hour and no conviction shall be had thereon unless such speed is more than ten miles per hour above the posted speed limit.

        (b) The limitations contained in subsection (a) of this Code section shall not apply in properly marked school zones one hour before, during, and one hour after the normal hours of school operation, in properly marked historic districts, and in properly marked residential zones. For purposes of this chapter, thoroughfares with speed limits of 35 miles per hour or more shall not be considered residential districts. For purposes of this Code section, the term “historic district” means a historic district as defined in paragraph (5) of Code Section 44-10-22 and which is listed on the Georgia Register of Historic Places or as defined by ordinance adopted pursuant to a local constitutional amendment.

          • Yep. But keep in mind that GSP can still ticket you for less than 10 mph over the limit while using radar / laser. City, county and campus officers have to pace you in order to write you a ticket for 10 over the limit or less.

            But it’s really usually not worth their time to stop someone until they hit 11 to 12 mph. I say 11 or 12 because radar / laser is usually accurate to within 1 mph I believe from what I’ve read in the past. Which means that when they clock you at 11 over you might have only been going 10 over. So it’s best to catch you at 12 over or more. 🙂

  12. Dave Bearse says:

    It’s uniform throughout the state that all but state troopers give 9mph for simple speeding outside of school and construction zones. If folks choosed to pay a fine for 1mph over, that’s their business.

  13. LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

    This is no surprise. VA tried the same thing a few years ago and fell way way short. The Governor’s Office and the Gen. Assembly knew this, and voted for it anyway. Besides, anyone who thinks this money is going solely to trauma funding is an idiot. That’s why there was so much resistance to a Constitutional Amendment.

  14. saltycracker says:

    1. You know you are following at a safe distance when two vehicles pull in front of you.

    2. Using your turn signal to change lanes cause the vehicles in that lane to speed up.

    3. Slow drivers in the left lane are pathological instigators.

  15. saltycracker says:

    P.S. While renewing 2 car tags I mentioned that the increase to $35 must be raising more money for wildlife. Was informed “not exactly”.

    “Gov. Perdue & the legislators looking for ways to increase revenue raised this fee, but ALL of the fee goes directly to the treasury.”

    So does my vanity fee help my favorite cause ?….. No, they get whatever the state budget provides.

    I left with two regular tags & will donate directly to a “Friends of (favorite park)”

    If any portion of the $35 finds it’s way back to the cause, then the county tag agencies are misinformed.

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