Deal disputes Politifact saying Erick is False

Since everyone is writing the tip line to tell us this here is your post.

The AJC’s Politifact Rated Erick’s Post False.

Specifically it took umbrage with Erick saying Deal voted to fund abortions:

Furthermore, the bill had nothing to do with “actual abortions.” Title X explicitly states that “none of the funds appropriated under this subchapter shall be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning.” This has been the rule since the program began.

If a clinic that receives Title X funding also performs abortions, it must make sure none of that federal money goes to those services.

For instance, if women getting abortions share a waiting room with those who receive federally funded family planning services, the clinic can’t bill the government for the entire cost of running the waiting room. It must subtract the proportion that goes to pay for patients waiting for abortion services.

This sounds a lot like what Karen Handel did when she voted to pass-through funding for Planned Parenthood to perform “services like cervical cancer screening, testing for sexually transmitted diseases and birth control.”

What did Nathan Deal have to say about that?

“Politicians who vote to give your money to abortion providers can spin it anyway they like, but taxpayer dollars for one service frees up money elsewhere to provide abortion services,” Deal said.

Here is the problem neither the left nor the right manage to get through their thick skulls. When you allow government to expand to this point, every action is going to be something someone disagrees with. If the right is upset that money is going towards groups that fund abortions, perhaps you shouldn’t be spending federal dollars on health care. To the left, if you don’t like that the religious-right wants to redefine evolution or have prayer in schools, perhaps you shouldn’t be shoving a one-size-fits-all education system down everyone’s throats.

Yes, Deal and Handel voted to authorize to appropriate money to Planned Parenthood, or to forward a check someone else wrote. Big F–ing Deal. Stop spending money on stuff the government shouldn’t be spending money on and you won’t have these problems.

41 comments

    • Nathan says:

      Hear, hear!

      This talk on abortion is like a circular firing squad. Ultimately, we’re not getting anything accomplished and injuring (or killing) our own.

      • Pappy says:

        Stop spending money on healthcare and education and all of these “problems’ will seem puny by comparison. Idiots.

    • fultonrighty says:

      Absolutely!!! And timing does matter to me as a voter–a vote in 1993 (17 years ago) when Deal was a Dem is far different than one in march of 2005 (5 years ago) when Ms. Handel was a Repub. She is really all about fiscal conservatism, if that. It seems she is talking some of the social conservative talk to get elected, but she is not real coherent on social issues.

  1. The exception is that the vote Deal made contained Hyde Amendment language preventing federal money from going to abortion.

    “Furthermore, the bill had nothing to do with “actual abortions.” Title X explicitly states that “none of the funds appropriated under this subchapter shall be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning.” This has been the rule since the program began.

    If a clinic that receives Title X funding also performs abortions, it must make sure none of that federal money goes to those services.”

    • Scot says:

      Be intellectually honest.

      “Politicians who vote to give your money to abortion providers can spin it anyway they like, but taxpayer dollars for one service frees up money elsewhere to provide abortion services,” Deal said.

  2. Even if we leave aside the past for a moment, one important thing to remember is that Deal would allow for abortions when the life of the mother is at stake, but Handel would allow for abortions under much broader circumstances.

    By virtue of their current, stated positions on abortion alone, Deal is more “prolife,” and strong prolife voters will make up a significant portion of the Republican primary runoff electorate.

    This whole debate tends to cut in favor of Deal, especially when we’re dealing with whose voters are likelier & more energized to show up at the polls.

  3. lanierland says:

    Dear God, will y’all just admit that Politifact said Erick was wrong and move on? It happens, who cares? This is ridiculous…

  4. griftdrift says:

    WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

    But with got a big orange with those apples.

    Abortion is an ideologically charged issue and the government’s involvement is complex with much nuance.

    Evolution on the other hand is a cornerstone of biological sciences and what the Religious Right is trying to do there is in effect argue that the sky is yellow and the sun is blue.

    I suppose you could argue the solution is to get the government out of education completely (I would disagree) which would result in those believing in non-scientific mumbo jumbo shuffling off to their ignorant conclaves and eventually being free marketed out of the system.

    However, the big problem with your analogy is abortion certainly has two side to the argument, evolution does not.

        • B Balz says:

          You are like a primordial tadpole swimming in its’ own
          waste, as I invented the Universe almost 50 years ago.

          I invented S&H trading stamps, so everyone could buy Hibachi grills to go with Schlitz, while listening to their Victrola’s.

          • polisavvy says:

            Okay, B Balz, that makes the third time today I have spit on my computer screen from laughing out loud. You must put an end to this! LOL!! 🙂 BTW, my parents did get a grill with trading stamps. I remember like it was yesterday.

    • Provocateur says:

      I’ll believe evolution is possible when this blog gets a makeover and everyone just blogs about the weather and whether or not it will rain. Until that happens, evolution cannot possibly be true.

      • benevolus says:

        Evolution only predicts adaptability to environment. In this environment, idiocy may well be the best adaptation for species survival.

  5. B Balz says:

    GOOD ON YOU, Erick. It takes character to openly apologize. Perhaps we can all take a step back, breathe deeply, and realize mistakes are made in the face of intense competition.

    Acknowledging mistakes and moving on are the mark of professionals.

  6. Doug Grammer says:

    Should “Deal disputes Politifact saying Erick is False” really be “Deal agrees with Politifact saying Erick is False?”

  7. Jace Walden says:

    Deal’s statement shows that he disputes what Politifact said about Erick. At least that’s what Farris is trying to say.

  8. bowersville says:

    If you are worried about the slant Peach Pundit is putting on a particlar subject or candidate you’re backing up and they’ve gotcha.

    The voters are out yonder somewhere. They’re not on Peach Pundit.

  9. fultonrighty says:

    A vote in 1993 (17 years ago) when Deal was a Dem is far different than one in March of 2005 (5 years ago) when Ms. Handel was a Repub. She is really all about fiscal conservatism, if that. It seems she is talking some of the social conservative talk to get elected, but she is not real coherent on social issues.

  10. Scott65 says:

    “To the left, if you don’t like that the religious-right wants to redefine evolution or have prayer in schools, perhaps you shouldn’t be shoving a one-size-fits-all education system down everyone’s throats. ”
    Thats about the stupidest analogy I’ve ever heard. Evolution??? Really, you could have found a better example than that. Religion in schools is very cut and dry…you just dont have it in public schools…you dont like it, go somewhere else. Dont like abortion…dont have one…see how easy it is.

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