Happy Birthday Buzz Brockway

Our “adult in the room” is a year older. And, well, you know, we haven’t had enough front page posts this week about Peach Pundit’s contributor who is about to be demoted to the Georgia House of Representatives.

So, Here’s another. Happy Birthday Buzz!

Consider this an OPEN THREAD for any topic OTHER THAN THE GOVERNOR’S RACE.

45 comments

  1. polisavvy says:

    This is a reason to celebrate week for Buzz. First the election, now the birthday. Have a very happy one, Buzz.

  2. polisavvy says:

    Okay, having said happy birthday to Buzz, I have a question which I would like to hear you guys’ responses. Would someone please define for me a career politician? In typical Jim Marshall fashion, he jumped out with an attack on Austin Scott by calling him a “career politician.” Does Marshall not count his four years as Mayor of Macon a political position? Does he not think that his fourth term in Congress is a political position? (The two equal 12 years of service). I don’t know how the rest of you feel, but I don’t consider a State Representative or a State Senator a “career politician.” They basically work three months out of the year in their elected capacity and nine months out of the year in their businesses. If bet if you compare hours to hours, Jim Marshall has served more hours as a “career politician” than Austin Scott. Further, if this is the best he can bring to the table against Austin Scott, then he has some serious obstacles ahead of him.

      • polisavvy says:

        Thanks, Harry. I mean really. I don’t understand the rationale behind that type of attack. Does he not have any mirrors in his house? What kind of advisers think that this is a good tactic? Like I said earlier, if this is the best he’s got, he’s in for serious problems down the road. There is a lot to go after him on (voting with Pelosi and Frank so much, getting permission to vote “no” on health care to save face in a district that was pretty much in agreement that they did not want health care, etc.) — very little, if anything, against Austin Scott. He should probably try to pick his battles a little bit better or fire his advisers.

          • polisavvy says:

            Well, John, am I right in my thinking about this? A State representative or senator is only working at the Gold Dome 3 months out of the year, and working in their primary businesses the other 9. How is that a career politician? If you divide three into the 14 years that Austin served in the House, that’s 3.6 years — a far cry from 12 years. Just curious as to your thoughts on this one.

              • polisavvy says:

                Yes it most certainly does! LOL!! I hope that anyone who lives in the 8th and who has any free time would call Austin’s campaign headquarters and volunteer their time. We need to send Austin to D.C. I can guarantee you one thing, and I mean this with all sincerity, I don’t believe we would ever hear Austin Scott say what we have heard other members of Congress have said: “I voted for the bill but never read it.” That’s not the way he rolls!

                  • polisavvy says:

                    No one has said he’s not a politician, Zaza. Tell me where it was said that he’s not a politician. The subject is rather or not Jim Marshall is justified calling him a “career politician” and leading people to believe that he doesn’t think he, Jim Marshall, is one. Keep up, okay. Better yet, since you hate Austin so much, just ignore all posts relative to him. Enough of your sniping is quite enough!!

              • polisavvy says:

                According to Rothenberg Political Report, the 8th is considered “lean” democrat — a move benefiting the republican. That bodes well for Austin Scott.

    • ZazaPachulia says:

      What type of behavior is indicative of a career politician in the making?

      How about campaigning for governor for a year, then meeting with party bosses and switching races at the last second? A move like that is all about self — not constituents. Austin spent a year telling everyone with the “have you considered running for Congress?” question that he was concerned with Georgia’s needs and had no interest in going to Washington.

      Austin’s switcheroo during qualifying week was the equivalent of the costume coming off. Earnest and honest got bumped aside and replaced by ambition. I’m not being too hard on him. He is, after all, a politician. No we know he really is a politician, and not some normal person trying to act like one.

      • polisavvy says:

        You know, I normally don’t get rude on here; however, in this particular case, I feel it is totally justified. You need to get over it and move on. I can’t believe that you babbled about being so in the know on everything relative to Austin Scott; but, when it comes to the truth, the real reason he switched races, you couldn’t be more incorrect. I know the real reason. I have talked with him and his wife about it. I have also spoken with his staffers. You, on the other hand, have done nothing but speculate and spout off.

        If you don’t like him, fine. You aren’t in his district anyhow so it doesn’t really matter. Just do yourself and the rest of us a favor and quit trying to make yourself sound like a “Scott insider.” Believe me, I know better!

        • ZazaPachulia says:

          Would you care to enlighten us with the “real reason” polisavvy?

          I am obviously not a “Scott Insider.”

          I met him a few times on the campaign trail, liked what I saw and decided to support him for governor. That’s about it. I’ve never claimed otherwise. I did talk to him during qualifying week, but that was the last time I’ve heard from him. At the time, he seemed like he was distraught with the decision he was having to make. I still respect the guy. After all, I worked to try to make him our party’s nominee for governor.

          I raise a legitimate point about him switching races and what that means in the eyes of voters and observers. You then attack me because my observation makes you feel uncomfortable. Like it or not, Austin is going to have to answer questions like these. The “I’m taking my toys and going home” response you just spewed is not getting us anywhere.

          Again, I have never claimed any relation to Scott other meeting him, talking to him a few times and volunteering briefly for his campaign. I was never on the ‘bus’ or anything like that. I’ve stressed that point repeatedly. And I still believe that he was the absolute best candidate in our GOP governor field (when he was in the race)

          • polisavvy says:

            If I have misunderstood your relationship with Austin Scott then I apologize. I do recall the week before qualifying your going on and on about him being forced out — which he wasn’t. Then your yammering about the “discussions” you two had. Then your whole, I’m going to get behind Otis and show campaign signs in a dumpster saga. The list of incredible statements you made have gone on and on.

            If I have attacked you, perhaps you should ask yourself why? I am supporting a candidate that you can’t vote for because of geography. What I don’t understand is why, giving the fact that you can’t vote for him, you’d want to get on a blog and run him and his good name in the ground. I don’t understand why you wanted to show photos of his campaign signs in a dumpster. I just don’t get why you took his decision to switch to the Congressional race so personally.

            Like you, I was disappointed when he switched from the Governor’s race. I, like you, felt he was the better of all the candidates. I, like you, would have voted for him for Governor and supported him in any way that I could. And I guess, like me, you feel that the best candidate’s name was not on the ballot on Tuesday.

            I would like to assure you that he was not forced out of the race. He made this decision on his own, with discussions with his wife. He did what he thought was best for Georgia. Even though he’d be the Congressman for the 8th, the entire state can benefit from that.

            I am aware of the fact that he is going to be questioned about every single decision he has made during the past year. He is aware of that, too. The point I think you missed during this whole thing is that Austin is now in a position to help Georgia on a federal level. We will all benefit from this. I believe that since he has switched races that when he addresses groups, he has answered the question about switching races for the audience and it is received with applause. Apparently, he’s doing something right.

            I hope that eventually we can bury the hatchet. As far as “taking my toys and going home,” well, I don’t have that type of demeanor. I’ll debate as long as you want. If you want to know an answer that I don’t have, I’ll get it for you. I just wish that you would realize that the 8th needs to be rid of Jim Marshall and Austin can do it. He needs our support, not ridicule. Tell you what, as November approaches, if you’ll go to a Pundit party, I’ll be there to meet you. We’ll toast to our new found friendship. Deal?

            • Lady Thinker says:

              Wow poli, I hope I don’t make you mad, but Zaza deserves the wake-up call of your posts. I do recall she/he tried very hard to give the impression several months ago that she/he was pals with the Scotts and very in the know. And I also recall the dumpster incident because I pointed out to her/him about the criminality of the act.

              • ZazaPachulia says:

                Humor is sometimes lost on the blogs.
                I thought it was rather obvious that my distaste with Austin leaving the governor’s race was more about the seven miserable candidates we were left to choose from than it was about Austin Scott. The Otis and dumpsters stuff was for laughs. This is a comment thread on a blog…

                I never tried to make myself out as a pal of the Scotts. Like most of his supporters, I had his phone number and called him and asked about things. He’s one of the few candidates I’ve come across who is so free with his number and actually takes calls. He’s a great guy. I don’t know what went on in his meetings with party leaders, but I speculated on here that the folks in charge asked Austin to switch races. I wasn’t the only one speculating. Take a look at what Gallaway was writing at the time.

                Yes, I was disappointed by him switching races. Yes, I believe the move says something about who he is and who he wants to become (what’s the old adage, ‘actions speak louder than words’). I vocalized some issues voters may have with his move on a Republican blog. This is common sense stuff. Nobody’s goring any Oxes here…

                All that being said, I still think Scott can be good for the state…

      • ZazaPachulia says:

        If Austin does go to Congress, will he retain his independent streak?

        He made some enemies within the party under the Gold Dome because he has been more inclined to consider legislation for its merits and not just go with what party leaders have said.

        In this race, he’s swung to the right of where he was in the GOP primary. I have a feeling he’ll be a lockstep Party man in Washington (remember, he’s let his ambition take center stage now… see my last comment). That is the last thing we need.

        But maybe Austin has not gone all the way to the darkside. We’ll see…
        I’d like to re-ask him some of the questions he was asked during some of the governor debates to see how much things have changed.
        I saw heard him say Seabaugh’s ‘Campus Carry” bill was “a terrible idea” and I also heard him say that zero-based budgeting was “a sorry piece of legislation that ignores the real problems.” Now that he’s battling a centrist (with equal ambition), how much has Austin changed?

        • polisavvy says:

          Austin will always be independent. He didn’t mind not always making nice at the Gold Dome and he won’t mind doing the same thing in D.C. He’ll go to his own drummer. But one thing that perhaps you should keep in mind, and if you knew him as well as you profess, he will do what’s right for his constituents. If it means making waves, then waves will be made.

          I do have a suggestion for you. Since you two are such buddies, it seems to me that you wouldn’t mind picking up the phone and calling and asking him any questions you might have about him. I’m sure, since you guys are so tight, that he wouldn’t mind spending all the time in the world with you answering any question you might need to ask.

          As for Marshall, not so sure the “centrist” label applies to him very much anymore. Anyone who votes with Pelosi and Frank as often as he does can’t be called a centrist, now can they?

          • B Balz says:

            @Polisavvy

            Your argument “…who votes with Pelosi and Frank as often …” is intellectually dishonest. I have met both men, and this is neither a defense for one, nr an advocacy for another.

            Simply, if a rep votes ‘yea’ 95% of the time, with their leaders, and those ‘yea’ votes are on relatively benign issues such as commemorations, etc. your point is moot.

            For example, most realize the incumbent voted ‘Nay” on the HC Bill.

            You make good points, but keep it straight.

            • polisavvy says:

              I will get it straight, B Balz; but, so should you. There is a difference in voting ‘Nay’ because you know that it’s the right thing to do and voting ‘Nay’ with the permission of the Speaker of the House in order to save face in a district that is not in favor of the health care bill. That’s exactly what happened. Pelosi gave him permission to vote ‘Nay’ after it was a done deal that they didn’t need his vote (you remember, after Stupak decided to vote ‘Nay’). It’s in the record. I didn’t make it up or imagine it.

              • B Balz says:

                That is an interesting take on history. Got a link or something? I recall Stupak announced early in the day, not really disputing what you are saying, got any proof?

                How many “yea” votes were supported by the District as well? I suspect a lean majority. The 8th is a conservative, moderate, District.

                The incumbent voted in line with his constituents. If the majority feels otherwise, I guess they will vote him out.

                Not going to argue with you, but if we are going to have to ‘hear’ this until November, make it worth the read.

                The ‘voted with the Majority’ argument is lame.

                As a newcomer, Scott would last exactly one term if he DID NOT vote 90+% with the Majority and we all know it.

                • polisavvy says:

                  It’s not a take on history. It’s the truth. He was in discussions with Pelosi for a several days before the Sunday vote. If you will recall, his phones were completely overwhelmed with calls from the 8th, urging him to vote no. Remember, had Stupak not changed his mind, Marshall’s vote would have been necessary. After Stupak announced his decision, he was able to vote “nay.” I will provide you with the link (give me until tomorrow evening — have to take hubby back to doctor). Once I’ve done so, perhaps you won’t mind me mentioning it occasionally on here since I am supporting Austin Scott for the 8th.

                  Marshall has been voted in time after time; however, Rothenberg’s newest report came out today and shows that the 8th is lean democrat, which means it will more than likely support a republican.

                  Perhaps you and I don’t expect the same from our elected officials. For once, I’d like to see someone go to Congress who would, to take a line from ‘The American President’ — “just vote your conscious, you chicksh$t!” I’d love to see someone go up there and vote for what’s better for all of us and care less about what is better for them. I’d loved for my Congressman to actually be able to say that I voted “yes” or “no” for the bill because I read every damn word of the 2000+ page document. I know I live in a dream world; but, who knows, maybe Scott could be that kind of Congressman.

                  • B Balz says:

                    Well, heck Polisavvy, if your logic holds true, then we will have Rep. Scott back in Georgia soon enough….

                    Knowing him, Rep. Scott is the man to stand his ground and be that sort of Congressman. Your District is lucky, some don’t have any decent choices.

                    • polisavvy says:

                      I’m not quite sure how to take your first paragraph. As for your second paragraph, I feel the same as you — we are lucky in the 8th. He’ll stand his ground, that’s for sure.

                    • B Balz says:

                      The nature of ensuring political compliance requires new reps vote in lock step.

                      Those that don’t, seldom last. It is expensive and without Party support, you are toast.

    • analogkid says:

      “Would someone please define for me a career politician?”

      This would be a great question for Karen Handel who said, “Nobody believed we could take on the career politicians and the establishment and win.”

      If Karen isn’t a career politician, then who is?

    • MSBassSinger says:

      Happy Birthday, Buzz. I hope you have a good one – and many more!

      Herman Cain has my support. It is a long time until 2012, but as much as I had wished Mr. Cain had run for the office not to be mentioned in this thread, I even more would like to see him as President.

      I am open to reasons why I am wrong, if anyone has any legitimate, issue-oriented reasons.

  3. B Balz says:

    Happy Birthday Buzz!

    Georgia is lined up to be in the National spotlight after huge support for GRTL on their ‘personhood’ ballot question:

    http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/07/22/your-morning-jolt-a-test-of-clout-for-georgia-right-to-life/

    Many posters here, including a staunch defender of ‘personhood’, have stated this issue is not the most important to them. The AJC is clearly framing the question to favor the Dems, since Roy has flat out stated how ridiculous, in HIS opinion, Georgia looks to the Nation on this issue.

    The question is will GOP voters take the bait?

  4. ZazaPachulia says:

    And since we’re talking other races, how in the world did “Walking Small” pick up more than 30-percent of the vote in my senate district. I punched the GOP ballot, but you better believe I would re-elect Seay 1,000 times before even considering Victor Hill.

    Thankfully, Valencia is not headed to a runoff. And that guy Travis Spruill must feel pretty crappy right now, knowing that a wide swath of voters prefer Victor Hill to him.

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