Ox, McLagan, and Reed

From a Handel release refuting all of Oxendine’s nonsensical attacks:

“John Oxendine is the most corrupt politician in Georgia’s history and is far more likely to serve a term in prison than he is to serve as Governor.”

Yep. I think that’s true.

For the life of me, I cannot understand what Oxendine supporters see in the man. From Wellpoint to the trips to LA to all the pay-to-play business, to what insurance executives have to say about the man, etc., it’s just has always struck me the man is one ankle bracelet away from mandatory checkins with a parole officer.

Yet he has attracted a following beyond just being the longest serving statewide Republican. Some people actually think he deserves to be Governor for that. Others think he deserves it on other merits.

I just don’t see.

By the way, quick question for the Ox — according to the binder, Ox approached Ralph Reed and the GA-GOP shortly after the 2002 elections and suggested the GOP begin distancing itself from the Christian right and, in particular, pro-life issues, in order to expand its voter base.

True? Cause it isn’t just the binder with that information.


  1. In The Arena says:

    No one’s stock has taken a bigger hit this cycle than Erick Erickson. He painted himself into a corner by choosing the wrong candidate to support. He clearly laid out the values that he ideologically opposes during a New York congressional race. Now he comes back home and fights for exact same stances that he fought so hard against. Why? He did not do his homework on Karen Handel before he endorsed her and therefore he has forced himself into a dead end. If he really was an influential conservative, he would have dropped his support for Handel. But he has tried to spin and spin and blame others for Handel’s character flaws.

    It is abundantly clear that Erick Erickson cares more about his own influence than conservatism.

      • ZazaPachulia says:

        You mean, The Robespierre of Macon?

        He’s on bleeping television now! How has his ‘stock dropped’ exactly? I would consider being paid to spout nonsense on t.v. as a coup!

  2. John Konop says:

    We are facing a massive shortfall of tax revenue next year. Unemployment rate is out of control. The housing market is in the tank, We have unfunded future liabilities (state workers retires about 18 billion in the healthcare red) the state is facing in the future that could be BK the state. Our education system is in a race to the bottom after Kathy Cox and company.

    And this what we are talking about?

    • Provocateur says:


      Shouldn’t you be addressing that comment directly to Erick, since he’s the one who initiated this thread?

      • ACCmoderate says:

        Provo… Erick doesn’t read this site any more, he’s too engulfed in “The Binder.”

      • John Konop says:

        I find it ironic how all of puff out your chest bragging how much you are big time conservatives. But the first time any of you are asked how we pay for something it is all BS talking points with no real substance.

        And that is why you guys feel more comfortable debating this BS rather than dealing with REAL ISSUES! At the end the bill will come due and the only person to blame is in the mirror!

  3. Provocateur says:

    “True? Cause it isn’t just the binder with that information.”

    I thought everything was in “The Binder.” I thought the Binder was the Life Work of The Ox.

    Here’s something about Karen Handel that’s not in The Binder:

    Fulton County BOC Meeting Minutes:

    2. DEPARTMENT: Health and Wellness
    SERVICE/COMMODITY: Expanded Family Planning
    BID #: 20050002YB
    PRIME CONTRACTOR: Planned Parenthood of Georgia
    (Atlanta, GA)
    REQUESTED ACTION OF THE BOC: Approval of contract
    with Planned Parenthood of Georgia to provide family
    planning services in an amount not to exceed
    $425,568 for the period from date of award through
    December 31, 2005.

    A. A motion was made by Commissioner Lowe and seconded
    by Commissioner Riley to approve numbers 1, 2, 3, and
    5. The motion carried by a unanimous vote of 7-0-0.
    Commission Chair Handel, Vice Chair Darnell, and
    Commissioners Pitts, Riley, Lowe, Boxill, and Edwards
    voted yes.

    • Lady Thinker says:


      These funds were a pass-through grant from Congress to the Georgia Department of Human Resources, Division of Public Health — ironically when Nathan Deal was in Congress and Eric Johnson was in the State Senate — to provide screening for sexually transmitted diseases, cervical and breast cancer. Federal and state law, as well as State DHR regulations prohibited the funds from being used for abortion services, referrals or information.

  4. LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

    Wow, this blog keeps hitting new lows. Erick are you on Handel’s payroll yet? You really should be since you’re her # fan.

  5. Progressive Dem says:

    It is quite alright to smear a political oponent on this site, but you must say you have the supporting documentation in a “binder”.

  6. Three Jack says:

    thanks for continuing to expose ox as the corrupt, lying, deceitful lifelong bureaucrat that he is erick. with any luck, he will soon be out of work and forced to find a job in the private sector for the first time in years (or better yet, deciding whether to step out of his cell with bubba and leroy awaiting him in the shower).

  7. Doug Grammer says:


    Did you buy the binder at Wal-Mart or Target? I know you say it was given to you, but you also say it’s full of information. By failing to publicly disclose what’s in it, your credibility takes a hit….or if you have proof that laws are broken, and you don’t file with the ethics commission, does that make you an accomplice?

  8. ACCmoderate says:

    “Ox approached Ralph Reed and the GA-GOP shortly after the 2002 elections and suggested the GOP begin distancing itself from the Christian right and, in particular, pro-life issues, in order to expand its voter base”

    Believe it or not, Ox makes a good point here Erick. Georgia isn’t going to stay this deep a shade of red for much longer (look at what happened in North Carolina). Before long, independents and moderates will have the ability to swing an election… if the GOP doesn’t move now to attract more voters under its tent, there could be more openings for Democrats to start making some gains here again.

  9. AnyoneElse2010 says:

    I firmly believe that both Ox and Handel are working their hardest to make sure that the Office of the Governor goes back under a Democrat. I don’t see how you stomach either of these two choices. There is NO WAY that the Ox camp gets united behind Karen, and the NO WAY that the Karen camp gets united behind Ox. I am beginning to believe that the only way we take the Governor’s race is by having neither of these two at the top of our ballot.

  10. Jason Heyward for President says:

    I hope this isn’t considered a thread jack, but. . .

    With the Ox releasing a negative ad on Handel, what effect will that have on the race?

    Often, when you go negative the person attacked drops in the polls, but then so does the person attacking, particularly when you are attacking a women.

    Does this open the door for Johnson or Deal?

    • Ron Daniels says:

      If Deal or EJ capitalize it should. Oxendine has a comfortable lead and needs to ensure that Handel isn’t a threat in a runoff, otherwise he wouldn’t take a gamble.

      No matter the intention, negative ads against female candidates will always give rise to claims that someone is a chauvinist. Even if that is not the intent or if the accusation is completely unfounded. Political Correctness and all that.

    • zigmaster says:

      So yes, she voted to fund Planned Parenthood. Reason? Because Planned Parenthood is trustworthy enough to keep all their little programs separate. Give me a break.

  11. True Grit says:

    “….refuting all of Oxendine’s nonsensical attacks”


    Please pay attention to Article 3, section 5. This is the actual contract between Fulton County and Planned Parenthood.

    “C. The County will pay the Contractor $425,568 per year, payable in monthly payments of
    $35,464 in compensation for services provided.”

    A few pages later, you can check and see Mrs. Handel’s signature.

    I don’t see that this is a ‘non-sensical attact’. Taken from the notebook of the Fulton County Commission October 10, 2005.

    • Lady Thinker says:

      This didn’t happen True Grit because Federal and state law, as well as State DHR regulations prohibited the funds from being used for abortion services, referrals or information.

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