New Poll Has Handel in the Lead

July 13, 2010 20:06 pm

by Erick · 133 comments

Magellan Strategies has come on strong this year with a number of polls across the country. They’ve made their way to Georgia to deliver good news to Karen Handel.

A Magellan Strategies survey of 1,227 likely Republican primary voters finds Secretary of State Karen Handel has a 14 point lead over her nearest opponent. Handel is getting 32% of the vote, while former Congressman Nathan Deal and Commissioner of Insurance John Oxendine are statistically tied for second with 18%. Senator Eric Johnson has 12%, Jeff Chapman and Ray McBerry both garner 3%, while 14% remain undecided.

The survey was conducted last Thursday night from 6pm to 8pm with a margin of error of ± 2.8%. (Sure seems incredible that they got through 1,227 interviews in 2 hours, but nationally they’ve held close to other pollsters)

In other words, this does not factor in the Palin endorsement.

I’m curious to find out what the AJC poll is going to show later this week.

Chris Huttman July 13, 2010 at 8:10 pm

Good god. There is NO way this is an accurate poll. 1,227 calls all completed in one night between 6 PM and 8 PM.

I am rarely at home before 8 PM on a Thursday. My money is on Survey USA, they may not be “coming on strong” but they were ranked #3 in Nate Silver’s pollster rankings and have been around for quite some time.

Erick July 13, 2010 at 8:20 pm

Haha. I had the same initial reaction with that large completion rate in two hours.

Lady Thinker July 13, 2010 at 9:55 pm

Depends on how many people were doing the calling. With 30 people calling, it comes down to 40.9 for two hours, which is 2.9 minutes per call. Then it depends on the number of questions asked per call.

LoyaltyIsMyHonor July 13, 2010 at 11:02 pm

LT, you’re all about the Kool-aid.
How can you possibly be a College professor?

Lady Thinker July 13, 2010 at 11:19 pm


zigmaster July 13, 2010 at 11:24 pm

You’re a college professor?

Lady Thinker July 13, 2010 at 11:55 pm

I teach part-time at a local college because of my master’s degree but I am not a Ph.D. yet. People possessing a master’s can teach the first two years of college.

I don’t name the college because we are not allowed to put the college’s name in the open like this.

sofnbc July 14, 2010 at 10:39 am

I have to agree with you, we had quite a few people doing a phone bank one night for EJ and I made 50 calls in less than 2 hours. Keep it short and sweet and you can accomplish the task. BTW, although we don’t agree on a lot of things, as a fellow Adjunct I appreciate your thirst for facts.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:16 pm

A kindred soul! At lease we are able to agree to disagree without tearing each other apart and as you know, that makes for a good debate. I look forward to your future posts.

Ambernappe July 14, 2010 at 9:36 am

I am glad I read this before posting as I had calculat3ed very close to the same numbers – an experienced, articulate caller can average 2 calls per minute, easily. If you have received many poll calls, you can tell the difference. Apparently the key to their success is hiring the best – more time beforehand results in much greater accuracy and demand for their services.

ReaganRepublican July 14, 2010 at 5:48 am

Erick, all joking and bickering aside. What church is Karen Handel a member of? I know where you go to church and that is why I expect better from you. But which church is Karen a member of? In the outside chance that she is to win the nomination, the only way she beats Barnes is with the help of the Christian right, who do all the work. Where does she hold her letter of church membership?

Tireless July 14, 2010 at 8:38 am

Like her pandering position on the NRA “I am a lifetime member even though I don’t own a gun” ….. Handel’s probably going to claim she is a member of some church she gave a contribution to, even though she never attends the church. Yet she claims her contribution to the LCR doesn’t mean she is a member of that organization. Being a chronic liar gets real confusing over the long haul.

MDokes July 14, 2010 at 8:49 am

Anyone that supports a planned parenthood grant, has no religious convictions.

John Konop July 14, 2010 at 10:41 am

Anyone making that comment does not understand the bible. Jesus warned about the Pharisees being false profits. Jesus is about loving your neighbor, not judging people and forgiveness.

If I follow your logic you would have any woman that ever had an abortion and or used IVF to create life up on murder charges. You guys will destroy the GOP.

The next generation does not support gay bashing, irrational social policies… is only time before you destroy it.

Tireless July 14, 2010 at 11:02 am

Did you graduate from the Obama School of Creating Idiotic Strawmen? If not, you could earn a PhD at OSCIS with that moronic retort.

I think we will allow false prophets like Handel to ruin the GOP. Maverick McCain started the job, an uber RINO like Handel could finish it off in Georgia.

John Konop July 14, 2010 at 1:46 pm


The deference between us is I deal in the real world with budgets, projections……. You deal in the make believe world that does not worry about the bottom line.

Tireless July 14, 2010 at 4:36 pm

Really? How about you tell me what I do for a living. This should be priceless.

John Konop July 14, 2010 at 4:55 pm


Why not post under your real name and tell us. It is no secrete who I am and what I do for living.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:21 pm


Does bashing everyone make you feel superior?

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:19 pm


Wrong!!!!!!!!!! I support planned parenthood and I have a religious conviction.

Provocateur July 15, 2010 at 12:11 am

Oh. Thank you for finally admitting your true beliefs…Karen.

ReaganRepublican July 15, 2010 at 5:26 am

Tom Price has planned parenthood supporters working for him. Birds of a feather flock together.

Lady Thinker July 16, 2010 at 1:05 am

Nope, I’m not Karen Provocateur. I’m an avid Karen supporter.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:18 pm

Not worth responding to.

Ambernappe July 14, 2010 at 9:44 am

Karen’s church affiliation is none of your business. However, she does have one, and if you read, it has been mentioned in her campaign literature. By the way, I have never heard a conversation about religious affiliations while volunteering with her campaign.

Tireless July 14, 2010 at 11:07 am

I am pretty certain whatever interests me is my business.

I hesitate relying on her campaign literature given the obvious fact it contains numerous lies.

ReaganRepublican July 14, 2010 at 11:27 am

She has literature out there claiming to be endorsed by Pastor Benny Tate. Come to find out, Benny did no such thing this election cycle. Karen lied again….

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:23 pm


The majority of what you post is lies so I do not accept youi comments about Benny Tate.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:22 pm

No, whatever interest you is not your business. Karen has a public life and a private life. You are only entitled to the public life.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:23 pm

This is for Tireless.

ReaganRepublican July 14, 2010 at 11:25 am

If you decide to run for office, than how you live your life is everyones business.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:17 pm


After all you have done to hurt Karen, you are not entitled to know anything personal to her. You are not trustworthy so you are not entitled to this information.

ReaganRepublican July 14, 2010 at 10:53 pm

The truth about how liberal Karen Handel really is, is not easy for you to swallow.

MouthoftheSouth July 15, 2010 at 8:38 am

You are confusing “liberal” with “terrible”. Again.

ReaganRepublican July 14, 2010 at 10:55 pm

What did I lie about? I would be happy to provide the evidence.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 11:18 pm


B Balz July 14, 2010 at 6:07 pm

Handy link to hear Roy discussing how he will improve Georgia image, jobs, education, transportation, and infrastructure on WABE.

This is what the voters are hearing. An articulate, well spoken, Georgian, discussing practical matters. I hope whoever ends up talking to Roy in November is equally, no better, able to convince voters.

While GOP candidates squabble, ungraciously about the floor like unruly toddlers, the Dem candidate gains traction. A run-off will only worsen the perception of GOP discord and in these very uncertain times, benefit the Dems.

B Balz July 15, 2010 at 10:46 am

In my opinion, Ms. Handel mishandles Mr. Doug Richards:

I can understand the exasperation that Ms. Handel must have felt after inviting 11Alive reporter Mr. Doug Richards on board her campaign bus. Further, the issue of ‘gay marriage’, ‘gay adoption’ is far less important to me, than the manner in which Ms. Handel chooses to respond to Mr. Richards who was clearly pressing the issue:

Q: So you think gay couples are less qualified to function as parents than straight couples?

A: I think that for a child to be in a household — in a family in a household with a situation where the parents are not married, as in one man and one woman, is not the best household for a child.

Q: Is it better or worse than a single parent household?

A: Doug, I’m really trying to be straightforward with you but I’m not going to debate all the nuances. I’ve made it abundantly clear that I think that marriage is between a man and a woman. And that’s what I believe, and I don’t know what more you would like me to add to that.

Q: I guess I want to know why you think gay parents aren’t as legitimate as heterosexual parents.

A: Because I don’t.

Q: (Pause) Well, I realize that.

A: Well, Doug, we’re not going to spend the whole day discussing this issue. And you know, it ‘s really kind of disappointing — we invited you on this (leg of the bus trip).

Q: I know.

A: So we’re going to need to move on.

At any given time, the Governor may face a dogged fourth estate, and using the ‘we’re going to need to move on’ response doesn’t impress me much.

An ability to express oneself clearly (as was done) while being patient and not being dismissive are important skills for the top executive in any undertaking.

Mishandling the press is easy to do. Had Ms. Handel simply continually repeated her positions (which were well stated) she would have come off looking badgered instead of dismissive.

B Balz July 15, 2010 at 11:34 am


MouthoftheSouth July 15, 2010 at 12:43 pm

If the “test” above is anything other than the GED, you are going to have to mark Karen as failed. She cannot handel higher education.

B Balz July 15, 2010 at 12:49 pm

No, the PP ‘recent comments’ field did not show my post, hence my “TEST” to see if it would show up. Weird little glitch.

Doug Deal July 13, 2010 at 11:30 pm

I’ve been running a calling program I developed and 6-8pm m-Thursday is probably the most like time to reach someone. Nearly a 100% chance of reaching someone, however the odds of finding a willing participant and qualified voter are somewhat less.

If, like some pollsters they use automated polling, 1127 calls is just a matter of throwing enough lines at it. A 5 minute poll (regardless of response rate, with trivial call time for a busy, or hangup) means 12 completed calls an hour per line, or 500 seats.

Doug Deal July 13, 2010 at 11:33 pm

Bah. Typing on my phone yielded one too many 0s. The intended value was 50.

David Staples July 14, 2010 at 9:34 am

I was thinking the same thing. Technology is a wonderful thing and can do much more than people give it credit for. It’s not like they’re saying this poll was done by one person manning one telephone. It could have been an outsourced call center doing the poll or it could have been an automated system using VOIP. I would think Asterisk (an open source VOIP software) could probably be modified fairly easily by someone that knows what they’re doing to accomplish this feat.

Doug Deal July 14, 2010 at 10:21 am

David, thanks for revealing trade secrets of a project that I’ve been planning.


David Staples July 15, 2010 at 12:08 pm

Sorry man, didn’t mean to be a spoiler. I’ll shut up. :-) I know a guy who used to be pretty good with Asterisk and SER if you need any help… not sure how much he’s working with them anymore…

WCHeadhunter July 14, 2010 at 1:58 pm

It was an automated call. I know because I took it.

zigmaster July 13, 2010 at 8:20 pm

EJ is 6pts from the run-off with a huge network of folks working their butts off. My money is on him to finish 2nd.

Kyle Constable July 13, 2010 at 8:46 pm

Agreed, Zig.

Romegaguy July 13, 2010 at 10:08 pm

My money is on that he narrowly beats the kid toucher

View from Brookhaven July 13, 2010 at 8:26 pm

Has Handel even touched 20% in other poll?

ready2rumble July 13, 2010 at 8:27 pm

23 last week in11Alive/ Survey USA poll

Pine Knot July 13, 2010 at 8:26 pm

Probably a dumb question, but it would also be funny as hell. Could Ox miss the runoff and have a Deal/Handel or Handel/Johnson runoff. I don’t see it with his kind of money and name recognition, but the media is after Ox day and night.

Erick July 13, 2010 at 8:37 pm

I’ve been saying for the last month or so that I thought it would be Deal v. Handel in the runoff.

Kyle Constable July 13, 2010 at 9:04 pm

I’m still believing in will be a Handel/Johnson runoff. Oxendine has a LOT of name I.D. His signs are everywhere. So when a polling company calls and asks who they’re voting for they’ll either go undecided or Ox. Ox’s numbers are inflated in the polls and will come back to reality on election day when these people vote for someone else or just leave the GOP governor section blank. And I have a feeling that Deal’s numbers may drop too. His performance will depend solely upon how many Hall County voters that Lee Hawkins can get out to vote for him in the GA-9 primary.

Pine Knot July 13, 2010 at 9:09 pm

I’ve heard from a couple of people in south ga that Romney might endorse Handel this weekend or early next week. If that is true, I do not think it would help her much. He is liberal and a flip flopper anyways. He says anything to get elected.

DoubleDawg3 July 13, 2010 at 11:07 pm

One slight correction – people in Hall County aren’t turning out to vote for Lee Hawkins, they’re turning out to vote for Nathan Deal & Casey Cagle, Hawkins might just benefit from that, but not vice versa.

GOPwits July 14, 2010 at 12:07 am

People in Hall County must really like ethically challenged politicians…

Pine Knot July 13, 2010 at 8:34 pm

The undecided vote still shapes this election. The Palin thing was big for Karen, but I think Newt will become a factor as he is a Georgia man, and some people who are ultra conservative are turned off by Palin. Then again, each canidate seems to be trying to go after the far right vote.

GOPwits July 14, 2010 at 12:09 am

Who is Newt? Is he that guy that endorsed the liberal Democrat Dede Scouzafaza in NY when everyone, including Palin, endorsed the conservative candidate?

Newt is just returning a favor for an old colleague from the House… Those old politicians tend to stick together you know…

Provocateur July 14, 2010 at 12:49 am

When people find out that Handel voted to approve $1.2 million in tax dollars to be given to Planned Parenthood, we’ll see how the voters feel about her.

GOPwits July 14, 2010 at 12:55 am

More false allegations from her opponents…

The money went for cancer screenings and prenatal care… The law dictates that none of that money could be used for abortions…

Will the Oxendine people please get familiar with Georgia law… Wait a minute, that explains Oxendine now – he doesn’t know the law and that’s why he’s so darn unethical…

Doug Grammer July 14, 2010 at 1:01 am

GOP lack of witts,

Provocateur didn’t say what the money was used for. Now did she approve the money or didn’t she? Did it go to planned parenthood, or didn’t it?

It sounds to me like you just said “yes,” “yes,” and “but….”

Provocateur July 14, 2010 at 1:04 am

Funny how those claims are not in the meeting minutes. More make-up BS from the Handel campaign.

Here’s the link to the Minutes…and this agenda item is on Page 12-13:

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:29 pm


I answered that question on another thread but won’t do it again because Icarus said not to post the same thing on every thread.

In a sentence, you are wrong again and are posting more lies as truth.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:28 pm


You are so on target with your comments. I really look forward to reading your posts as they reflect reality very well.

MDokes July 14, 2010 at 9:08 am

Newt is the guy who is leading the presidential polls in Georgia.

Tiberius July 13, 2010 at 8:34 pm

Hard to believe such a turnaround.

A Handel/Johnson runoff would be best. Best in November vs. Barnes.

Kyle Constable July 13, 2010 at 8:47 pm

Yep. The Handel/Barnes matchup and Johnson/Barnes matchup are the two biggest threats to Roy’s campaign.

Pine Knot July 13, 2010 at 8:54 pm

Not according to the last few months of Rass polling. Maybe you have an inside scoop on something.

Kyle Constable July 13, 2010 at 9:02 pm

It’s all about name recognition. After either one of these two is the GOP candidate for a few months, people will know them and they will have the best chance of winning. It’s just like if people knew about Deal’s background better he wouldn’t be leading significantly against Barnes.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:30 pm

I agree Tiberius.

EllisArnall July 13, 2010 at 9:33 pm

I disagree. As much as I hate to say it, I think Ox will make the runoff. Georgians have been voting for him in a statewide office for way too long. People who pay as much attention to PP are over-informed compared to most voters. Ox and Handel make the runoff.

John Konop July 13, 2010 at 9:42 pm

I agree

GOPwits July 14, 2010 at 12:09 am

I agree… Ox v Handel – with Handel in the lead!

WCHeadhunter July 14, 2010 at 2:02 pm

I don’t know. Look at Ox’s unfavorables in that poll. He’s way higher than anyone else and in most categories/demographics his unfavorables are higher than his favorables.
That being said, almost no one picked the never heard of him option.

Kyle Constable July 13, 2010 at 9:54 pm

Just curious, does anyone think that Oxendine and Deal might start attacking each other on ethics or do you think that they’ll continue to focus on Handel?

Lady Thinker July 13, 2010 at 9:59 pm

I think they will focus on Karen to try to steal her thunder because she is mor a threat to each of them than they are to each other.

Icarus July 13, 2010 at 10:01 pm

The fact that both Ox and Deal are spending money to attack Handel tells me that this poll may not be too far off the mark.

Whether they believe she’s in first or second, neither of them wants to face her in the runoff.

John Konop July 13, 2010 at 10:06 pm

Icarus and LT

Who do you think will be in the run-off against Karen?

ready2rumble July 13, 2010 at 10:10 pm

Ox, he had lots of cash

TPNoGa July 13, 2010 at 10:36 pm

I hope it’s EJ. He’s my second choice. His commericals are pretty decent. Karen needs serious help with producing ads.

Lady Thinker July 13, 2010 at 10:39 pm

I see Karen and OX, and that is why OX is going after her. I feel he wants her in the run-off with him and with his attack ads, OX feels Karen will lose in the run-off which will put OX face to face with Barnes.

OX can’t see that it really is the opposite, that Karen will win the run-off and Karen will face Barnes and win.

Kyle Constable July 13, 2010 at 10:43 pm

If it truly is a Karen/Ox runoff, she will win it hands down. The choice there is crystal clear.

Kyle Constable July 13, 2010 at 10:17 pm

Alright, what do you think is Johnson’s best route to get into the runoff?

Romegaguy July 13, 2010 at 10:18 pm

take up jogging

GOPwits July 14, 2010 at 12:14 am

I think his best chance is to ask for a refund from the people who produced his ads. They are boring and don’t stand out. He just blends in to being just another politician who served nearly 20 years in government who finally thinks it’s his turn…

He could use the refunded money to build a time machine and go back in time and step up and run for Lt. Gov in 2006 and then run for Governor in 2010…

ReaganRepublican July 14, 2010 at 11:29 am


Three Jack July 14, 2010 at 10:03 am

agreed icarus…bet they have internal polling that scares the hell out of them, especially ox who thought his runoff position was secure.

the ox people have been flooding fb with attack posts about karen, then de-friend anybody who challenges them. what a bunch of chicken-fecal babies.

GOPwits July 14, 2010 at 12:10 am

Oxendine is stupid to be ignoring Deal… Deal is about to pass him… You’d think he’d spend some of that shakedown money going after the other corrupt politician in the race to ensure he’s in the runoff…

TPNoGa July 13, 2010 at 10:30 pm

All you need to see in order to know who is in the lead is Ox’s commericals. He is attacking Karen, big time. “She likes gays and dead babies I tell ya!”

Ox’s actions speak louder than any poll.

Robert Hennessy July 13, 2010 at 10:45 pm

Anyone willing to guess that Barnes will end up in a runoff? Does the Clinton endorsement not mix things up a little bit? I know it’s between slim and none, but I can’t see Slim’s tail lights just yet…

Curious to hear people’s thoughts.

AthensRepublican July 13, 2010 at 11:26 pm

It’s possible. A lot of Democrats are still mad at Roy Barnes. I expect him to finish a strong-first place and maybe narrowly missing a majority. The other candidates are just starting to spend some money so there is a possibility someone like DuBose Porter can force him into a run-off.

ACCmoderate July 14, 2010 at 10:04 am

I don’t know what Dems you know (although from the title AthensRepublican, I can assume you’re surrounded by them), but most Dems are confident that he’s the best shot come November.

I think he makes it through without a runoff.

David Staples July 14, 2010 at 10:31 am

“I think he makes it through without a runoff.”

That’s my current intuition as well…

AthensRepublican July 15, 2010 at 12:28 pm

I have talked to several Democrats that will not be voting for Barnes. That said, I do think he will be the nominee. He is hitting on the right themes.

Ambernappe July 14, 2010 at 2:41 pm

Many South Georgians remember very well that they did not re-elect Barnes. I predict a Baker-Porter ticket, and Karen Handel winning over either of them.

Ambernappe July 14, 2010 at 2:43 pm

..ticket for run-off…………

Provocateur July 14, 2010 at 12:53 am

Err..Magellan has NO credibility since they haven’t been around long enough to make the Nate Silver Pollster Review Report:

debbie0040 July 14, 2010 at 6:26 am

You know, I am getting really ticked off by you sock pockets beating the same dead horse over and over again by saying that Handel is not a conservative. She is a conservative. I gained new respect for Handel when she is the only candidate that had enough courage to stand up to McBerry by refusing to appear on stage with him. all of the other candidates were afraid of him and his supporters and did nothing. the bottom line is that all GOP candidates are conservative and there are some good choices in the GOP Primary for Governor. Decide which one you prefer and quit making false statements about the others..

Provocateur July 14, 2010 at 9:24 am

Are you the same Debbie who was vice-chair of the Cobb GOP some years ago under a sleazy chairman named Anthony Scott Hobbs? You, Madam, have no credibility for the truth, for any position you take or anyone you defend.

Handel isn’t a “conservative.” Not in the sense of what any true conservative thinks.

debbie0040 July 14, 2010 at 10:45 am

Please elaborate what your definition of a “true conservative” is and do you think they have to pass your litmus test?. I would be most interested…

ReaganRepublican July 14, 2010 at 11:30 am

Debbie0040–You are a proven pseudo conservative.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:36 pm

That is not an answer RR.

Provocateur July 14, 2010 at 1:40 pm

Well, for one thing, Debbie, they do not lie. Handel has repeatedly lied, and I don’t care what the inherent subject matter is about, she lied.

debbie0040 July 14, 2010 at 11:01 am

Provocateur, in your other posts you say nasty things about Buzz Brockway, David Casas and Mike Royal and claim 18 years of experience in Gwinnett politics. You should do a much better job of hiding your identity

c_murrayiii July 14, 2010 at 3:23 pm

Considering Provocateur attacked me personally in a previous post as well, I’d like to know who he/she/it is Debbie if you have a good idea…but to keep things on the point, it seems to me this whole race is about personal attacks and personal ideas of what “conservative” means. I haven’t read much substance on PP about any of the Gov candidates. Of course ethics problems/lying are important, but what I mean is, I’d like to hear more specifics and details about how each candidate is going to make Georgia a better place…I know, so naive…

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:37 pm

I’d listen to Debbie over you Provocateur.

debbie0040 July 14, 2010 at 7:12 am

For the record, there is a tea party in South Georgia that was going to make an endorsement in the Governor’s race and polled their members. The top two candidates got 37% and 38% respectively so they decided against making an endorsement because there was no consensus. The top two were Handel and Johnson. Johnson surprised many when he won the straw poll at the 9-12 event Saturday. Many expected McBerry to win it because his supporters really worked the email getting McBerry supporters to come out. (It was a great event btw) McBerry finished 2 and Handel was third.

ACCmoderate July 14, 2010 at 10:06 am

McBerry would have finished first were it not for a high school cheerleading competition on the same day.

debbie0040 July 14, 2010 at 10:42 am

Or Jr. High cheerleading competition…

zigmaster July 14, 2010 at 8:56 am

There’s no way Handel wins a run-off versus Deal or Johnson. She better hope OX hangs on to 2nd or she pulls 45% on election night.

ACCmoderate July 14, 2010 at 10:10 am

Any chance that Dems turn out and vote for Ox or Deal in the runoff?

Doug Grammer July 14, 2010 at 10:40 am

They can’t if they voted in their own primary.

ACCmoderate July 14, 2010 at 10:09 am

Roy is already aiming his sights on Republicans. Republicans are still busy shooting at themselves. The Dems have been talking up education and jobs… meanwhile the latest ads from Deal and Oxendine deal with immigrants, gays, and abortion.

Social issues run well when the economy isn’t in the tank. I really hope that the GOP can find a message before going toe to toe with Roy.

True Grit July 14, 2010 at 10:18 am

No way this is accurate. Count on it falling this way:

All the others-Who cares.

There might be a surge by Deal because of the Gingrich endorsement. He might get to 20.

Doug Deal July 14, 2010 at 10:25 am

My prediction is Handle 35, with a three way log jam for second with hopefully Johnson coming out on top.

Late momentum is breaking for Händel, the rest of the candidates better focus on the Ox if they want life July 21.

True Grit July 14, 2010 at 10:33 am

Handel is getting momentum…no doubt…But you can count on Ox being number one. No way she’s braking 30. Not happening.

True Grit July 14, 2010 at 10:34 am

breaking even.

zigmaster July 14, 2010 at 1:33 pm

Do you think Handle can beat Johnson/Deal in a run-off?

Ambernappe July 14, 2010 at 2:46 pm

Probably not, but Karen Handel may.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:33 pm

Karen Handel WILL beat Johnson/Deal/Oxendine.

GOPwits July 14, 2010 at 10:21 am

I agree Grit, but switch the numbers around — Ox is sinking faster than the Titanic did…

Provocateur July 14, 2010 at 5:40 pm

You’re misreading those numbers. It is Handel who is sinking fast as people learn more about her true record of supporting Planned Parenthood to the tune of over $1,000,000 in taxpayer funds.

Lady Thinker July 14, 2010 at 10:32 pm


You are posting the same theme over and over with no facts. Karen didn’t do what you are saying and enough people know it. She isn’t sinking, she is gaining.

AthensRepublican July 14, 2010 at 10:41 pm

You are correct. I am not supporting Karen Handel but view her as the front-runner with Oxendine, Deal & Johnson (I am backing Johnson) battling for the other spot. Oxendine is sinking fast and I don’t think Deal’s campaign against her is going to win him any votes and will likely cost him.

AthensRepublican July 15, 2010 at 12:12 pm

With her latest publicity, I think Handel may have just blown her lead.

Tireless July 14, 2010 at 5:12 pm

John Konop July 14, 2010 at 4:55 pm

Why not post under your real name and tell us. It is no secrete who I am and what I do for living.


You said you know what I do for a living, prove it or retract your lame post.

analogkid July 14, 2010 at 9:23 pm
zigmaster July 14, 2010 at 10:41 pm

When does the AJC poll come out?

John Konop July 15, 2010 at 6:36 am

Someone sent me this e-mail.


….Ox’s attack is flat wrong. The budget he points to in his ad was in January of 2004. Karen hadjust been in office for two months and had a $100 million deficit. The proposal presented wasto raise taxes to cover it. Karen pushed through budget cuts and balanced the budget withoutraising taxes. In the very article that Oxendine uses in his ad, Karen is quoted saying we mustreduce the budget.

Karen did not support money to an abortion provider or Planned Parenthood.

The federal government passed money down to the state, who then passed it down to FultonCounty. The money was for screening for sexually transmitted diseases and breast cancer.The money was prohibited by law from being used for anything relating to abortions. Planned Parenthood was the only bidder for the funds, and was powerless to stop it. It could have been stopped at the state level, and as Governor Karen will prevent these types of pass through funding……

TalmadgeGhost July 15, 2010 at 1:24 pm

Please oh please oh please keep this up. We are loving it. Candidates so much more interested in Power than Principal. Someone, anyone please pull a Skandalakis and show some visage staggering down the hall of a treatment center flanked by giant Confederate (not state mind you) flags.

On a less partisan note, Handel is really hampering her own ability to tack back toward the middle if she were to win the nomination – she needs to begin the process of getting out the message of personal preference (her’s) over law – and that she would uphold and protect the law. Worked for Zell Miller over and over again.

I asked this question before, but never got an answer. Can someone of GOP ilk please explain to me why anyone would make the comment – “and some people who are ultra conservative are turned off by Palin.”
How in the world is this possible? Are you meaning by “ultra conservative” like Randy Weaver or the Montana Militia – because I would think even those guys would like her. Someone help me out here.

TalmadgeGhost July 15, 2010 at 1:26 pm

Please excuse me – it should read personal preference (her’s) vs. law, not “over law”.

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