Leadership and Loss

“Leaders … just make a realistic assessment. And that assessment becomes very simple: John Oxendine must be destroyed either to get a chance to compete against Karen Handel or for the good of the party.”

Nathan Deal tried very hard to make immigration his issue. Trying his best to spin more than a decade in Washington as a plus in a year where Washington is, on both sides of the aisle, a big negative, Deal tried and failed.

And the immigration darling of the moment, Jan Brewer of Arizona, endorsed Karen Handel, thus stealing away the issue.

Sarah Palin has now endorsed Karen Handel. Deal’s response? Basically “Karen Handel is gay and likes gays and she’s for gay adoption and did I mention she’s a lesbian in as many code words as I can without actually saying it?”


Meanwhile, John Oxendine is running attack ads against Karen Handel. Why? Ox’s own polling now shows Oxendine and Handel running even and possibly with Karen a nudge higher. He is freaked out.

Sarah Palin’s endorsement ensures Handel a spot in the runoff. Deal may not like it. Johnson may not like it. Oxendine may not like it. But Palin sealed the deal (pun intentional to rub it in) and puts Handel into a runoff.

Deal, Johnson, the congressmen, the Governor, many Republicans in the state legislature — all of them are privately willing to say John Oxendine is unacceptable as the Republican nominee. In fact, more than one of them has told me they’d be voting Democrat were Oxendine the nominee. One has told me he’s prepared to stand with me and endorse the Democrat if Oxendine is the nominee.

Oxendine ensures a Democrat victory and an ugly, ugly general election.

At this point, with a week left, real leaders begin to make assessments. Handel gets to a runoff. That’s done. The amount of attacks on Handel cannot undermine a Palin endorsement in the Georgia Republican primary. Just can’t happen.

So leaders, if Johnson and Deal in particular are really leaders, just make a realistic assessment. And that assessment becomes very simple: John Oxendine must be destroyed either to get a chance to compete against Karen Handel or for the good of the party.

Thus we may judge which of those other men running show real leadership by recognizing the reality they are now in — they can continue like Nathan Deal and throw limp wristed attacks at Karen Handel, or they can begin the assault on John Oxendine they had planned to save for the runoff.

I’m now not the only one out there with copies of my white binder. I’ve ensured that. If they are realistic, whether they want to believe it or not, they must now know that their last best hope is to pick off John Oxendine in hopes of getting into the runoff with Karen Handel. In the alternative, they need to recognize just how terrible an Oxendine nomination would be. Either way, it is time to finish off the political career of John Oxendine.

In a realistic assessment of their present reality, that’s what a leader who wants to be a leader would do.


    • TheEiger says:

      All I see in Deal is a “follower” that stayed in Congress way to long and did nothing to stop illegal immigration. He put his name on a few bills. None of which actually “stopped” illegal immigration. Why didn’t he help secure our Southern Border by building a wall. The bills you talk about have nothing to do with securing the boarder. He is not a leader, but a follower. He was once a Democrat that followed others into the majority party. We need a real LEADER.

      • Rick Day says:

        Dealey could not build a wall because he lacked mad brickin’ skills, the unions had a fit over a scab bricklayer, and all the jobs went to the Illegals™

        Plus, that is like…work, man!

        Walls….LOL….Maginot Line.

        Wiki it.

        Wait. Isn’t Cheney a “Reagan Republican” too?


    • GOPwits says:

      Deal is proven that’s one thing – proven that he’s really good at hiding his corrupt insider deals with the State of Georgia… What was it, like 18 years that relationship lasted before someone found out about it… That sure did allow him to build a nice life for himself and his family, all thanks to taxpayers…

      Deal is corrupt.

  1. ReaganRepublican says:

    Everyone is also saying that we would vote for Barnes over Handel as he has a more conservative record than Handel on the social issues. A Yankee republican from Fulton with a liberal record can never win statewide. We have gone down this road before.

    • Lady Thinker says:


      Go back and see which states are Southern. You do have a history book don’t you?

    • macho says:

      You do know she already won statewide. You’ve also got Paul Coverdale as well. I’m actually trying to figure out which “Yankee republican from Fulton with a liberal record” you are talking about?

      • ACCmoderate says:

        Lady Thinker… I’ll clarify this for you.

        “A Yankee republican from Fulton with a liberal record can never win statewide [in the Deep South].”

        You’ll agree with me that the social and political climate in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Louisiana is radically different than that of Virginia, North Carolina (which voted for Obama), or Maryland.

        • CobbGOPer says:

          Um, and she clarified that Karen has won a contested, tough statewide election before, whupping your boy Bill Stephens back in 2006. She sent Bill Stephens to the political trash heap, that guy couldn’t even pull like 4% in the 9th District race.

          So what’s that about never being able to win statewide?

    • Capt. Jack Sparrow says:

      It finally clicked for me. Reagan brought tons of Democrats into the Republican Party. This guy calls himself a ReaganRepublican. He’s really a democrat that agreed with Ronald Reagan. No wonder he likes Deal. They are both Democrats!

      The clue was the word “everyone.” In conservative circles that’s not what is being discussed. In liberal Democrat circles they do prefer Barnes over Handel. I bet “everyone” that is a liberal does.

    • GOPwits says:

      Listen RR – you’re spewing lies… Karen’s voting record is solidly conservative Republican. You can spin lies and half truths all you want, but when she votes, she votes like a rock solid conservative Republican on fiscal and social issues…

  2. sofnbc says:

    Please don’t lump Eric Johnson in with Nathan Deal, Eric is NOT out there calling people names. As I have said before, we prefer to let the other candidates do that to themselves.

    • MDokes says:

      Have to call BS on that. I have heard Eric and his camp say many bad things about Karen. I heard her picture is up on there dart board. If the run off is between Ox and Handel, I will not show in August or November.

      • sofnbc says:

        I am not sure what you “heard”, but it has NEVER happened in my presence. I admit I have not been in all places at once, but I am getting tired of people spouting off about what they have “heard” that someone else said….. Unless you “know” it happened, don’t bother commenting.

        • NorthGAGOP says:

          MDokes this maybe the only time I agree with you.

          I have spoken to a number of people who have had Johnson make specific false negative attacks on Handel.

    • GOPwits says:

      BS – Eric is out there trash talking on the campaign trail just as bad if not worse than others… Do not put a crown on him just cause he’s only a little corrupt, doesn’t excuse him from the pack… In fact, his turning a blind eye to all the corruption in the State House may lead some to believe that he’s one of the most corrupt…

      Ethics are going to be a big issue for voting in the fall… No one wants just another corrupt Republican politician…

  3. Mayonnaise says:

    Wow!  Meeting minutes from an old 2005 Fulton County Board of Commissioner’s meeting.  Let’s see what it says:

    Meeting Minutes:

    2. DEPARTMENT: Health and Wellness
    SERVICE/COMMODITY: Expanded Family Planning
    BID #: 20050002YB
    PRIME CONTRACTOR: Planned Parenthood of Georgia (Atlanta, GA)
    REQUESTED ACTION OF THE BOC: Approval of contract with Planned Parenthood of Georgia to provide family planning services in an amount not to exceed $425,568 for the period from date of award through December 31, 2005.A. A motion was made by Commissioner Lowe and seconded by Commissioner Riley to approve numbers 1, 2, 3, and 5. The motion carried by a unanimous vote of 7-0-0.  Commission Chair Handel, Vice Chair Darnell, and Commissioners Pitts, Riley, Lowe, Boxill, and Edwards voted yes.

    • Tireless says:

      She will claim her vote for supporting the pro-abortion group was an accounting error…….or she will simply lie and say she didn’t actually vote for the project.

    • GOPwits says:

      If you knew anything about the law you’d know these types of things are pass downs from the feds… Why not get upset and ask Nathan Deal why he allowed these types of pass downs to happen?

      Nathan won’t have an answer because after nearly 20 years in Congress, he has NOTHING to show for it except a lot of money from his inside deal with the State of Georgia and two ethics investigations…

  4. Ludwig Von Beachbum says:

    Clinton had James Carville
    Handel has Eric

    Here is a challenged, comment on the peanut crop while covertly turning it into an Hadel promo.

  5. I Am Jacks Post says:

    Handel owes Erick and Nick a massive debt of gratitude for the Palin endorsement.

  6. Rick Day says:


    I chuckled at the part where Sarah Palin’s endorsement was like, er, gold.

    Do tell. Why isn’t this just another instance of a couple o’ VaginaPals™ off blazin’ the trail for women’s thingies??

    Secret Agenda: Sarah and Karen want to turn your children into Feminist Lesbians! Go gettem’ Oxy!

    Oh snap, that is Nathan’s Deal!

    Sarah Palin is the National equivalent of Maggie O’Connell – a small minded woman mayor of a fictional town, now groomed and turned into a political tool: a media monster. All this sexual tension with the Dr. Joels, aka white republican (straight) guys, !

    Careful, Eric. Eventually, they will turn you into a media monster as well. Wait until you get that first $200 haircut.

  7. Rick Day says:

    Have “you people” ever thought through this illegal Mexican Immigration thing?

    You send “those people” back to Mexico, and we will lose a major battle on the War on (a couple of) Drugs™. They all go back, use their newly acquired contacts in the US, and go to work for the cartels (hey, it’s a living, at least!). In retaliation, cartels flood the US market with hard drugs so cheap (think: $1 per dose), that 11 year old junkie’s will be OD’ing.

    See, “You people” think many of the solution to all our problems lies in running out all of “those people”. White people do that; we tend to blame others when they have something we want to take from them.

    Keep terrorizing the illegals. We know what happens to people who are terrorized. Like “Us people”, they band together and fight back.

    Me? I grew up in Dallas, TX with Mexicans as neighbors. I speak to my waitress in Spanish, as a sign of respect. You Gawjah crackers? You are messing with a culture with ritual roots of cutting beating hearts out of living enemies. Stop it. This position of ‘building walls’ and ‘imprisoning Messicans’ is morally wrong, and dangerous.

    Now, go sit on a Wall, and think about it.

    • macho says:

      So you believe in open borders with no immigration laws, because anything more than that is racist?

    • polisavvy says:

      I do think about the immigration issue. I am terribly concerned now that it was reported yesterday that Hezbollah is now using the same route as Mexican drug smugglers to cross into the U.S. What do you think should be done with the illegals already here? Also, what do you think would be the answer to securing our borders. Just curious and would like to hear your viewpoint, if you don’t mind sharing it. Thanks.

  8. lynx says:

    Anyone who gets the nod from half-governor (and halfwit) Sarah Palin deserves to lose. Both Palin and Handel purport to be “self-made” women, pulling themselves up by their pantyhose. Uh-uh. Palin was Queen of the biggest welfare state in America while selling out her family and her office for personal gain. Handel was a secretary to a lobbyist (second rate – Greeting Cards, for heaven’s sakes!), a secretary to a Second Lady, and a Secretary to a State that has tried to ban brown-skinned people with accents from voting. Oh wait, and she has no college education, but she is schooled in Life (at least, the rarified life of a lobbyist and political hack).

    • CobbGOPer says:

      She’s done more in 44 years than you’ll ever do in your entire life, pal. Go pound sand.

  9. GAOTPC says:

    Yeah…shame on the good ‘ole boys for ganging up on Karen and accusing her of practically being gay. Even if she was gay and even if she supported gay rights WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL!! We need diversity in the Republican Party, hello? It’s the only way we’re going to compete in the future!

    Oh and thank you for endorsing the only ETHICAL candidate, Governor Sarah Palin! 🙂

  10. Mayonnaise says:

    Oxendine has the money and the new PLANNED PARENTHOOD revelation is not going to be brushed aside by Georgia conservatives. Congratulations, Peach Pundit. You’ve just made Oxendine your candidate due to your blind support of a social liberal. Dopes.

    • I Am Jacks Post says:

      That stuff can’t be true because Karen said it’s not true. And PeachPundit said it’s not true.

        • I think it’s certainly a plus that John doesn’t speak in this ad. However, in regards to Karen supporting domestic partner benefits… you do realize that many large corporations these days already provide domestic partner benefits, right? Let me refresh your memory…


          Found elsewhere…
          “A majority of Fortune 500 companies offer domestic partner health insurance benefits, according to a Human Rights Campaign (HRC) report.

          The HRC’s The State of the Workplace report found that nearly 51 percent of Fortune 500 companies are providing benefits to employees’ same-sex domestic partners in 2006. The number of Fortune 500 companies offering domestic-partner benefits increased from 246 in 2005 to 253 in 2006, according to the report.”

          As for the planned parenthood… yes, I disagree with her decision to give taxpayer dollars to the group. I’m not opposed to the group’s existence — I just don’t think it should be funded by taxpayer dollars.

  11. In The Arena says:

    “Karen Handel is gay and likes gays and she’s for gay adoption and did I mention she’s a lesbian in as many code words as I can without actually saying it?”

    You should remove the quotation marks because Deal never took a shot at the character of Karen Handel. He took a shot at her voting record and what she has fought for in the past.

    This must be a terrible feeling for you as the 65th most influential conservative in the country. You travelled all the way to New York 23 to keep Dede Scozzofava from getting elected to Congress. Then you find out that the woman for whom you have moved heaven and earth to get elected governor is moving heaven and earth right here at home for her homosexual friends and her planned parenthood friends.

    No one’s stock has taken a bigger hit this cycle than Erick Erickson. He has fallen to the level of delusion where he accuses Deal of accusing Handel of being a lesbian. Erick Erickson has spun himself straight into delusion while attempting to emotionally manipulate voters.

    Palin will take away this endorsement if she finds out the facts about Handel’s past. So Erick’s response? Pre-emptively and falsely blame Deal for Handel’s lack of values. Classy. Truly the politics of manipulation at its very worst.

  12. I Am Jacks Post says:

    Erick Erickson, 7/7/06. on PeachPundit:

    “We’ve got a copy of Karen Handel’s Georgia Equality Questionnaire from when she ran for her current seat in Fulton County. This could potentially give some socialcons some major qualms about
    voting for Karen.”

  13. vonMises says:

    This is the kind of politics that really gets under my skin. The only conclusion that I can draw from all this is that Johnson seems to be the best choice of the lot. At least he doesn’t try to make the others look like a bunch of sleazy degenerates.

    • CobbGOPer says:

      But they are sleazy degenerates! Ox, Johnson, Deal, all used their public positions for private economic gain. Karen’s only issue is that she might be too friendly to gay people. OMG zoinks, we can’t be friendly to gay people! We might go to Hell or something!

      Please move to Alabama where you ignorant beasts belong. We’re trying to live in the 21st century here in Georgia.

      • vonMises says:

        With all respect,

        Karen’s issue is that she simply doesn’t have the necessary experience. The gay matter, other than the fact that she lied, is irrelevant. She has spent almost her entire career on the public payroll and has never run a business. Part of living in the 21st century is having leaders with the depth of experience and knowledge to effectively manage the state.

        All I’m saying is that Eric is the only one with the right skill set to tackle the issues we face.

  14. Progressive Dem says:

    Deal’s response? Basically “Karen Handel is gay and likes gays and she’s for gay adoption and did I mention she’s a lesbian in as many code words as I can without actually saying it?”


    I’ll tell you what’s classy: Erick putting quoation marks around a statement that Nathan Deal didn’t make. WOW! There’s an example of a political operative with low scruples. It is also typical of lawyers. They cover their actions with small little words like “basically”. How about speaking the plain truth instead of the half-truths. Erick may in fact have a point about a below the belt attack on Handel, but it is unethical to write a quote for an opposing candidate. Print what he actually said, and let the readers decide for themselves. Erick undermines his integity and his effort by using such underhanded tactics. This is the kind of junk Red State pulls all the time, except it is usually aimed at Democrats.

  15. zigmaster says:

    As of yesterday, conventional thought was in line with what Erick is recommending here. Palin’s endorsement would make OX easier to catch for EJ/ND. However, this morning’s news of Karen’s Planned Parenthood funding has again flipped this thing upside down. EJ and ND couldn’t ask for a greater gift than Ox running this ad against Handel.

  16. Doug Grammer says:

    So let me get this straight, E.E. suggests that Sec. Handel is in the run-off, and the other candidates should now take shots at Com. Oxendine but leave her alone?

    If the fight is for second place, and Sec. Handel is in second place, who would you go after if you were Congressman Deal or Sen. Johnson? Without some real hardcore reliable polls to back it up, I’d say that Com. Oxendine is still in first place, but I could be wrong. The real poll is a week from today.

    I understand that E.E. supports Sec. Handel. I admire that. I might even agree with him, but making up quotes to make others look bad just seems like something a lawyer would do. Apologies to all my friends who are lawyers. I was kidding a bit, but it is not nice to do.

    Real leaders fight to win. They don’t accept you what you perceive as political reality. They change it. They also don’t take your word about a mythical binder.

    • Ron Daniels says:

      I’d like to point out, two candidates are also lawyers who went to the same school as EE.

      But then again I agree with Erick’s premise: Deal or EJ would be better suited by attacking Oxendine. I’m throughly convinced that Handel’s support lies in the metro area in voters who are not being deterred by the attacks on Handel. Over the past few weeks she has been attacked and her numbers are increasing.

      If I’m Deal, I’m going to gun down the Ox and EJ. If I’m EJ, I’m going to go after Deal, Oxendine, and Chapman.

      Oxendine has been decreasing in numbers over the past year, and he has also been attacked. As much as I argue that attacking Handel won’t help because the attacks against her have not been effective, the attacks against Oxendine have been effective. That doesn’t mean let up on Handel if I’m Deal or EJ though.

      It’s like Return of the Jedi. Remember what Admiral Ackbar said? “We can’t repel firepower of that magnitude, concentrate all firepower on that Super Star Destroyer.” You throw it at Ox, keep some pressure on Handel. That way when you free up Ox supporters they don’t run to Handel.

      And well, quite honestly – I think Deal could turn out some South Georgia votes by playing up the “I’m a native Georgian” card and EJ is doing well here already with the “I’m from below the gnat line” card.

      • Doug Grammer says:

        That’s a better way of phrasing it, but it came across as “don’t attack my favorite candidate, attack the man my binder says I should hate.”

        • Ron Daniels says:

          I don’t aim to speak for Erick or anyone else, but that’s the way I saw what he said and the way I see the situation.

          But I’m just a low-grade political junkie turned law student.

  17. Doug Grammer says:

    I was a little ticked and did some sentence changing without running it through spell check again.

    “They don’t accept you what you perceive as political reality. They change it. They also don’t take your word about a mythical binder.”

    should be

    “They don’t accept what you perceive as political reality. They change it. They also don’t take you at your word about a mythical binder.”

  18. GOPwits says:

    Three candidates in this race have serious “REAL” ethical problems… John Oxendine, Nathan Deal, and Eric Johnson.

    They have collectively ganged up on Karen Handel and are running one of the nastiest mean spirited campaigns Georgia has ever seen. They are selectively using quotes, misconstruing information, and straight up making up their own facts.

    The reason they are doing this is because they don’t want Georgians to know about their corruption and they want to protect the gravy train that they have become accustomed to living on while serving in office.

    The status quo of Georgia, Deal/Johnson, are scared as hell that a true reformer and a real conservative who doesn’t play games or make backroom deals will win this race and put an end to the types of gimmicks that cost Georgians hundreds of millions of dollars each year.

    As for Oxendine – he’s in a league of corruption all his own… His gimmicks too will soon be over as the political leadership of Georgia is changing and the new leaders do not like all of this kickback corruption that’s going on and they are demanding a stop to it…

    That’s right – all of you new folks running – be on notice – most of us Georgians want an end to the cronyism and corruption that’s dominating Georgia politics right now.

    • Provocateur says:

      Handel is under ethics investigation for the same issue Johnson is: an accounting error. But, ignore the truth Wits. I know it hurts your head to be truthful.

  19. USA1 says:

    This is all interesting stuff, but what I really want to know is how fast will Erick turn on Handel once she’s governor?

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