Slow news day…

Time for a good open thread. 

Authorized topics for discussion:  Anything

Unauthorized topics for discussion:  Anything negative about Tom Graves or Karen Handel

Conversation starter: If you could have any commenter or front-page contributor  locked in a room so that you could torment them for a day, whom would you choose, and how would you torment them?


  1. Jace Walden says:

    I would choose Jason Pye. I would torment him by handcuffing him to a chair and making him watch me while I drink all of his Newcastles to the background noise of someone reading a John Maynard Keynes theorem.

  2. I can’t pick just one front page poster to torment.

    Jason: handcuff him to a chair and make him watch a “Huckabee” marathon on Fox News.

    Icarus: handcuff him to a chair in a bar and not let anyone serve him a drink…..ever.

    Tyler: handcuff him to a chair right next to Icarus and force him to listen to Icarus complain about not being able to drink.

    Erick: handcuff him to a chair at a Ron Paul convention.

    Chris: Force him to move back to Gwinnett and be the personal assistant to all the County Commissioners.

  3. ZazaPachulia says:

    Gross… Newcastles? Drinking those would be torture enough. That is one terrible beer.

    I would lock Icarus and the ‘Robespierre of Macon’ in a room with Karen Handel for about two days. Karen would have no script or staffers present and would have to answer their questions and talk policy issues continuously. About 6 hours into the session, I imagine Icarus and Robespierre’s heads would explode as they realize that Mrs. Handel is their choice as the lesser of seven evils in this GOP primary field.

  4. fishtail says:

    I would like to see Icarus duct-taped to a chair while Johnny OX performed a lap dance on him. How long before Icky succumbed to the OX’s gyrations?

    • BuckheadConservative says:

      No one close your eyes! You don’t want that image burned into your brain.

    • Icarus says:

      For the love of God man!

      Ox only does the lap dance for folks that can cough up 6 figures. And rest assured, it ain’t a pretty sight.

    • polisavvy says:

      That’s a horrible visual. I hope it hasn’t permanently seared itself in my brain! Plus, after meeting Icarus, I believe that’s something that would NEVER happen — not in a million years.

  5. ZazaPachulia says:

    oh, and how is it a slow news day when the King James sweepstakes have officially began? Will the Squawks resign Joe? Will D-Wade and Bosh team up in Miami? Will the Russian-owned New Jersey Nyets land a star? Will I get traded to the Nyets and subsequently retire before taking a paycheck from dirty Russian scum? (We Black Sea Georgians hate the Russians)

    Discuss amongst yourselves…

    • Jace Walden says:

      None of those teams are the University of Georgia Bulldogs or the Atlanta Braves, so I’m not really even sure what sport you’re talking about.

      • ZazaPachulia says:

        Bulldogs and Braves… see this is why Atlanta is such a lousy sports town. I got no problem with cheering for the dawgs and the braves, but as long as you’re not some chick who pretends to be interested in sports to appease your boyfriend, I’m pretty sure it’s ok — normal even — to support the local NBA, NFL, NHL and college teams as well.

        • Jace Walden says:

          Basketball and hockey suck. Soccer is gay.

          I do watch the Falcons as well, should have mentioned that earlier.

          • ZazaPachulia says:

            whoa there, no one is defending soccer here.

            hockey is o.k.

            Basketball is a great sport. I know we Republicans have trouble enjoying it (because so many of us secretly or subconsciously hate black people — especially when their faces and bodies are not obstructed by helmets and pads), but it truly is the best team sport going.

          • “Basketball and hockey suck. Soccer is gay.”

            I didn’t realize soccer had come out of the closet or stated it’s sexual preference. Thanks for the update!

          • c_murrayiii says:

            If soccer were gay, it would at least be more entertaining, I mean, flamboyant men prancing up and down the field with feather boas might actually make it worth watching. Soccer as currently constituted is more “lame”. Its just watching people jog up and down a field, theres no tension or suspense.

    • BuckheadConservative says:

      If the big man get’s traded to the Nets, you’ll have to go sing Chris Christie’s praises over at

      • ZazaPachulia says:

        Fat chance. I still own restaurants in the ATL. This is where my heart is. And I ain’t going to no team owned by a dirty russian.

  6. Provocateur says:

    Republicans putting their victims in handcuffs??? Sounds like some of you have some subconscious desires that your spouses/sig-others should learn about you.

    • redrock says:


      Although I’m sure if someone notified McBerry – he’d be down for joining in on this strange, strange thread.

    • MSBassSinger says:

      Texting while driving. Whatever happened to individual responsibility?

      Banning cars would save a lot of lives – yet I don’t see that happening.

      This bill is the same principle as HB1059 was back in 2006 (write a stupid bill to get votes), and it will bring all sorts of unintended consequences, too.

      I have yet to see one study that shows where this has been done in other states that it actually reduced traffic deaths and injuries.

  7. drjay says:

    i bear no ill will towards any of the front pagers, except buzz–so i guess i’d strap him to a chair and let him watch a loop of highlights of uga wins over tech throughout the years.


    • BuckheadConservative says:

      Wouldn’t have to loop it. There’s plenty of material there to keep it fresh for several days.

      • Buzzfan says:

        A dawg friend of mine once tried to force me to watch his tape of uga’s last football NC.

        Fortunately (for me), his BetaMax wasn’t working properly.

            • Jace Walden says:

              You guys didn’t win it in 1990. Colorado did.

              Tech played in the Citrus bowl, and wasn’t selected as MNC by a reputable source, like the AP.

              • DTK says:

                Not sure if you’re being facetious, but the UPI poll was the coaches poll back then, so, yeah, it was reputable.

                And there weren’t as many automatic bowl-tie-ins as there are today, so going to the Citrus Bowl wasn’t a big deal. BYU won a national championship after playing in the Holiday Bowl, if I’m not mistaken.

                  • DTK says:

                    No, I’m saying it’s generally recognized that Tech split the national championship in 1990 with Colorado, just as it’s generally recognized that Miami and Washington split it in 1991 or that Nebraska and Michigan split it in 1997.

                    What I am saying, however, is that the AP was not considered the defining poll during this era; whichever organization sponsored the coaches (UPI in 1990) also could lay claim to legitimately crowning the national champion. It was generally considered that the coaches poll and the media poll were 1A and 1B in terms of legitimacy.

                    I know you’re a Dawg homer, but you have to concede that the 1990 Tech team is a legitimate national champion, even with a 11-0-1 record. Colorado, after all, finished 11-1-1, and that even included the phantom “fifth down” victory over Missouri.

          • B Balz says:

            Read it and weep:

            September 25, 1926 – Football

            After six years of trying, Oglethorpe tops Georgia Tech in football, 7-6 when halfback “Cy” Bell gallops for a 42 yard touchdown run and “Nutty” Campbell connects for the game-winning extra point.

            September 28, 1929 – Football

            The Stormy Petrels top the mighty Georgia Bulldogs on the football field 13-6 when halfback “Cy” Bell races 64 yards for the game winning touchdown.

        • BuckheadConservative says:

          That’s funny. If you ever want to watch our last victory over Tech, I have it in Blu-Ray.

  8. drjay says:

    did anyone else get the important e-mail from sonny about how important it is for us as gop’s to help get the new super on the ballot this november?

    • NorthGeorgiaGirl says:

      I got that twice this morning. I guess he is using the GOP email list to try and get everyone on his side?

      Sorry, I wasn’t going to vote for Cox, and I am certainly not going to help or vote for someone Sonny feels will carry the torch for what she started.

    • TheSituation says:

      Mayo is absolutely obsessed with Karen Handel. If you are married, I would imagine that your wife is jealous how much Karen is, and has been on your mind.

  9. TPNoGa says:

    Easy Question:

    Icarus. I would do a superior dance around him in my jorts waving Gator National Championship banners (Football AND Basketball). I would also make him recite every final score of every UF/UGA football game since 1990. 🙂

  10. TalmadgeGhost says:

    I would put all the “front-page contributors” in a room together and have them fight to the death over the single brain cell they seemingly share.

  11. B Balz says:


    Anyone want to delve into whether or not we are going to get $300MM from the Feds to make our 2010 budget whole. What of Roy’s claim to reduce class size and eliminate furloughs when 2011-12 is facing a $1Bn hole without one-time Federal funds.

    Sorry to ruin everything, but that seems important to me.

    • HowardRoark says:

      Mr. Balz, this blog’s comments section is strictly for the purposes of people to anonymously attack candidates running for office they bitterly hate but have probably never met. Please take your “issues” elsewhere.

      But I’ll humor you….Roy’s claim is, in word, bullshit. He may genuinely want to do it, but he knows he want be able to. This falls under that “Just say it and we’ll figure it out when we get there” campaign lines.

      • B Balz says:

        Sadly all too true:

        anonymously attack candidates running for office they bitterly hate but have probably never met.

  12. polisavvy says:

    Before when we voted, weren’t the federal positions ahead of the state positions? The sample ballot shows Senator, then all the state elections, then behind the PSC are the U.S. representatives. Has it always been that way and I just now noticed it? If it’s new to this particular election cycle, does anyone know who is responsible for this change? I think it’s kind of a dumb thing to have the U.S. Representatives basically appearing on “page 3.” Thanks to whoever knows the answer.

    • Lawton Sack says:

      I just pulled up my sample ballot, and it looks like they put the statewide elections first, then went to Congressional District, then GA Senate District, then GA House District, and then local elections. In the Presidential election, it would be President, Senate, then Congressional, if there are no other Statewide positions.

  13. HowardRoark says:

    Does anyone else think it’s foolish that people have been voting for a week and the campaigns have just started to spend money?

    • KingWulfgar says:

      The only people voting this early are the ones who already knew who they were voting for. More ads wouldn’t have changed their minds.

      • polisavvy says:

        Doug, would you look at my post a little above this and try to see if you know the answer to my question? Thanks in advance.

    • polisavvy says:

      Good of you to drop in. Hope all your businesses and “Mrs. Byte” are doing well. Thanks for your post.

    • Does that mean I’m not a Libertarian? I don’t really see me fitting any of those. Sure, I agree with the “cut taxes”, but there’s nothing there about “cut spending” so I don’t exactly fit that. Taxes should be in line with spending so that there’s no deficit. Ah well… guess I’m going to have to find another party then….

    • ByteMe says:

      Hey Doug and Savvy!

      Just been crazy here between work and moving. Too much to do, not enough time to get everything done, so something had to give and blog commenting was the least productive thing I was doing, so….

      But I spotted the cartoon, thought of several people here… Sorry David, I really didn’t think of you reading the cartoon, you have too many facets to fit any of the personality types. I’m sure you’ll get over the hurt in a hurry 🙂

      • polisavvy says:

        Well, I’ve not been on here in a while (ill husband) but when I came back and could not find your posts, I was concerned. Glad you’re okay. Hope you get back with us regularly soon.

      • Apology accepted 😛 Good to hear things are still going well on your end… was wondering when we’d see you back around these parts! I do know libertarians that fit various parts of that cartoon, but in all fairness I know plenty more GOP folk that also fit various parts of that cartoon. Especially the climate change one…

    • ACCmoderate says:

      Will Johnson explain how he can justify lower taxes when we’re in the midst of a huge budget crisis that’s only going to get worse?

      It seems that there’d be no way to decrease state tax revenues without completely shutting down the entire government and laying off every state employee.

      • Mayonnaise says:

        “It seems that there’d be no way to decrease state tax revenues without completely shutting down the entire government and laying off every state employee.” …. sounds like a winner to me!

        • ACCmoderate says:

          I can see the ad from Ox now:

          “As governor, I won’t care who gets the credit. So long as I’m the only one in this state that still has a job.”

    • Capt. Jack Sparrow says:

      So did STATE SPENDING go up or down while he was running the Senate?


  14. chefdavid says:
    “Political Insider Tom Graves: Women hit by tanning bed tax
    1:21 pm July 1, 2010, by Jim Galloway

    U.S. Rep. Tom Graves this afternoon decried the implementation of the new tax on the leather-skinned, declaring it would have an immediate effect on women – though not in the raccoon-eyed way you might think.

    From his press release:

    WASHINGTON – North Georgians looking to work on their tan before the July 4th holiday will pay more at the tanning salon starting today because of President Obama’s health care reform bill.

    A 10 percent excise tax on ultraviolet tanning services starts today and is the first tax being levied under the new health care law.

    “There are many small businesses in the 9th District of Georgia, and among these small businesses are tanning beds, much of which are owned by women. This 10 percent tax increase is simply another kick to the gut of small businesses and will only hurt job creation in the United States,” said Congressman Graves.

    One wonders whether the new congressman has latched onto something here.

    The South has been famous for its use of “sin taxes” — on alcohol, tobacco, taxi dancing and such — to raise cash for governmental operations. The evangelical lurking deep in most of us, whether churched or unchurched, is highly tempted to go along.

    But a levy on tanning bed use amounts to a tax on vanity — which, given the current cultural climate, may not qualify as a sin anymore.

    Wait a second before all you anti tanning bed taxes want to start screaming about this democratic tan tax let us just look at our own house in GA. Two bills were introduced this year. HB 853 which passed the house and that is as far as it got. My Rep. Scott voted no. But a majority of the house voted for it. Go see how yours voted. The new tax a $25 a year fee per facility and $15 per tanning device. Then along comes good ole SB 435 sponsored by non other than Mr Lee Hawkins and our favorite DR. from Dalton. Well this bill passed both the Senate and the House. Guess what the new tax is for tanning beds? $25 per facility and $15 per tanning device. And My Reps voted how I thought they would. Scott no and Mullis yes. So don’t let them stump speech about this evil tax when in all reality your State Reps probably voted for SB 435.

      • ACCmoderate says:

        Overly tanned? How dare you!

        Mr. Boehner suffers from the same horrifying skin condition that affects Mark Richt. These people can’t help their orange-ness!

        • ByteMe says:

          Richt is positively pale compared to Boehner. And Richt is less annoying even to this Gator.

      • Henry Waxman says:

        I know Graves’s press secretary, and thus, this press release makes sense to me.

    • Joshua Morris says:

      Gotta call you out here, chef. The tanning bed language was added in the House and then passed the Senate 6 days after Hawkins resigned.

      Do your research before making accusations, so that they’re not false.

    • polisavvy says:

      I hope they wake up, too. Loved Oxendine’s camp’s response that that was 20 years ago and that they were focusing on the next six weeks. I wish to heck that the buck would stop for him on the night of July 20th. Georgia doesn’t need him!!

      • macho says:

        You’re referring to another Ox problem that came out today. Sorry, I wasn’t being clear. My post is not about the Judge calling Ox an abomination. This a new article about Ox and Echols working the non-profitable angle on tax deductible checks for campaign expenses. Other candidates turned it down, because an idiot could see it stinks, but Ox and Echols never let a stench get in the way of a campaign.

        • polisavvy says:

          Sorry, I misunderstood your post, macho. Thanks for that link. You are true about Ox and stench — they seem to go hand in hand.

    • B Balz says:

      Via AJC:

      “… They say there’s not enough hospitals in the state prepared for the worst injuries that come with car crashes, gun and knife attacks, and those traumatic household mishaps that land people in emergency rooms. …”

      I bet the cost of ONLY gun and knife attack injuries for DeKalb/Fulton, and all of GA, account for more than half of all emergency room visits. These are common trauma’s involving the most blood, expertise, and time, thus cost, to stabilize.

      There are two America’s today: One plays by the rules of a civilized society, not perfect or perfectly, but by generally acceptable behavior. The other is a criminal element that is sucking the life out of all of us, literally.

      By this logic, a material portion of the proposed $10 trauma fee will pay for criminals without health insurance. These criminals may not have insurance, but they posses a weapon. They are ‘saved’ by miracles of modern medicine and the heroics of ER doc and staff.

      We have to break the cycle of violence at the family level.

    • B Balz says:

      Repealing the entire HC law is futile grandstanding and anyone with a shred of understanding will know that. The HC law will need to be tweaked and changed as 2014 approaches, but a repeal is hugely unlikely.

      • polisavvy says:

        A repeal may be unlikely; however, not funding it could definitely fall into the realm of possibility. No money to fund it — no HC.

        • B Balz says:

          As long as pre-existing conditions, cancellations, etc. are in it won’t be a pol Donneybrook. Otherwise, the GOP becomes the Party of Grinch.

          Happy 4th everyone!

          • Doug Deal says:

            With how much we are robbing from our children to pay for the comforts of now, very shortly anyone playing the “party of grinch” will be what the voters want.

            Very fitting you used that analogy, as it was the Grinch who stole Christmas, which is how libs (if you think overspending our budget so drastically, you are a liberal) view our treasury. One giant Santa’s workshop.

            Stop stealing from from kid.

  15. B Balz says:

    Mr. David Bearse, an influential Doraville blogger and frequent Peach Pundit contributor heartily endorsed Mr. Chris McFadden for the position of non-partisan Court of Appeals Judge:

    I have known Mr. McFadden to be a man of impeccable legal and personal credentials, for over thirty years, and am pleased to learn of this important endorsement.

    • Lady Thinker says:

      I met Chris McFadden seven months ago at an event and was very impressed with his knowledge of the position requirements and his eagerness to talk with anyone wanting to speak with him.
      He’s got my vote.

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