Question for the assembled masses

If the BP oil spill kills off all the mussels and fish in Alabama and Florida, does that mean we can keep our water here in Georgia?

If so, we should send a Thank You Card to Tony Hayward.

Consider this an open thread for current events tenuously connected to Georgia.


  1. chefdavid says:

    For someone unwash-ed as me I could not articulate an answer to such a question. What about the 14 Senators grandstanding on immigration yesterday? Was this just a pr move or just something to add to their stump speech that they signed a letter to shut off illegal imigrants from the State Schools right before the primaries?

  2. Nathan says:

    What about the Gulf oysters that I can get at the Boathouse in Chattanooga on Mondays @ half price? I suspect those days will be coming to an end.

    • Jace Walden says:

      As much as it pains me, I would agree. Obama did not have the Law or Constitutionality on his side to force BP into giving up any amount of money, other than the previous liability cap that had been enacted, and BP knew this. But he does have overwhelming public opinion on his side. BP knew this as well.

      In a free-market, public opinion can be as damning as any Government regulation. Obama found a way to get what he wanted legally, and BP found a way to save some sort of face.

      I am opposed to Government’s being able to “shake down” people at will, but that’s not what happened here. BP bowed to public opinion and voluntarily gave up the money.

      • Game Fan says:

        Yep. BP gave up the money voluntarily. They know it’s just a drop in the bucket with all the liability. Not sure if Obama really did anything here besides show up for the signing ceremony and grandstand about it. Watch out for the folks who say “well if he didn’t HAVE the authority let’s GIVE it to him. He deserves it. (no he doesn’t)

        • Game Fan says:

          If there were simply a global body to handle all this corporate liability stuff.

          No wait. Crap. Forget that thought.

          But hey, we can still make them look stupid when corporate stupidity warrants a decent smackdown. I think it’s onadem, “Hey, if conservatives don’t address the excess, guess who will”.

          • Game Fan says:

            FULL DISCLOSURE:
            Game Fan no longer has a 401k or a Roth IRA, so this is one reason I like to rip at this whole “shareholder value” deal. The same goes for corporate lobbyist babes. The tie in????
            I’m jealous. 🙂

      • seenbetrdayz says:

        So we can stop spending money on operating civil courts then?

        I propose that all lawsuits be handled through the president. If someone damages your property they should just give the president some money and then let the office of the president decide whether or not you have a valid complaint. It’ll be just like 13th-century England all over again—only with a president acting as the Judge of the Land rather than the king.

      • Ambernappe says:

        Each of those circumstances reinforces that NOTHING holds the Administration to using one penny of the twenty billion for the claims of the damaged individuals in the Gulf Coast region. Consider the “independent” person appoointed to administer the fund. This entire coerced settlement is strictly under the control of the “Supreme Micromanager in Chief”. When all is said and done, there will finally be a report which reveals the shenanigans of the Administration.

    • Dave Bearse says:

      Tom Price beat Texas Congressman Barton to the punch with the remark “BP’s reported willingness to go along with the White House’s new fund suggests that the Obama administration is hard at work exerting its brand of Chicago-style shakedown politics”.

      The Price remark is especially rich, given Price is now under investigation by the Office of Congressional Ethics for having a fundraiser seeking donations from lobbyists representing banks and other financial companies the day before he voted against financial industry reform legislation. Obama’s so-called shakedown is looking out for taxpayers and the environment, meanwhile the Georgia-style (think Ox) Price shakedown funds the Price campaign.

      Johnny Isakson’s apology for his “unwashed” is a hoot. The term unwashed is not out of order for an electorate that on the basis of party affiliation will return a shakedown artist to office that calls another politician a shakedown artist.

  3. John Konop says:

    It all starts from the top. The DOE and Kathy Cox cheated on the drop –out rate numbers. They also cheated on the CRCT test by making the test easier via requiring less right answers to pass. Do we all not see a pattern here? We need a new crew at the DOE ASAP!

    100 Atlanta school employees implicated in test cheating scandal

    AJC exclusive: Respect earned by APS, superintendent in jeopardy

  4. B Balz says:

    Mr. Jim Walls, retired investigations editor of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, who runs the watchdog news Web site discusses the much bally-hooed new ethics law in Georgia.

    Basically, the law consolidate all ethics issues into the State Ethics Commission, without any correspondent increase in funding.

    Wanna bet this issue will surface in November during the Governors race?

  5. Game Fan says:

    From what I’ve seen western oil companies may have at least adopted the “deep oil” aspect of the “Russian Ukranian abiotic oil theory” but apparently without all the corresponding technology and safety measures. Chalk it up to bureaucrats, shareholder value, politicians, CEOs, panic politics, “drill deep/drill now”, mixing energy with “national security” rather than fiscal conservatism and free markets, “western pride”, big business, ect… This is the big oil version of the Space Shuttle disaster. Innovation, common sense and free markets still can’t be found anywhere near the disaster. Now the Russians say the only way to stop the leak is with a special nuclear type of “bunker buster”. But of course this doesn’t register with the poll watchers or the “cult of personality”, the “followers”, ect…

  6. LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

    Anyone here know a good outdoor run range in the Atlanta metro area? I usually go to Wild West Traders in Austell for indoor, but would welcome any suggestions for indoor as well.

      • polisavvy says:

        I’m not sure if you would feel that Covington is too far away; however, Charlie Elliott Wildlife Preserve has a pretty decent gun range. My husband and son were there yesterday.

    • Buzzfan says:

      Not really “metro area” (or on the same side of town as Austell) but I’ve been to the Wilson Shoals WMA range up near Lula just across the Hall/Banks county line. Not busy at all during the week, and weekends won’t get REAL busy (i.e., having to wait long for a spot) until late summer. Also nice that it’s FREE.

      Unfortunately none of the WMA ranges are very close to ATL.

      Info and directions on the Georgia WMA Range site.

      • LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

        Wow, I had no idea DNR operated gun ranges. Thanks for your suggestion, I’ll definitely check it out.

  7. TPNoGa says:

    So, the Pac-10 went for the Big XII South and all they got was Colorado and Utah…..Bwahahahahaha! FAIL!

    Um….. this post relates to Georgia in that TAMU won’t be coming to the SEC, which UGA is a member.

  8. Goldwater Conservative says:

    for all the talk I hear from “conservatives” about what is and is not consitutional I am not suprised that Chris does not understand the Interstate Commerce Clause.

    Go figure.

    • Goldwater Conservative says:

      Don’t forget Tom Price is under investigation for unethical fundraising operations as well.

    • LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

      I’m not Handel fan, but that’s pretty douchy for them to display that publicly.

      • Go Dawgs! says:

        When you have a campaign like Handel chock-full of people at every turn fabricating a new fake story of the moment to explain her involvement in the gay community for the purposes of an election, I have no sympathy for them, nor would I have any admonition for the political vine writers. If the Handel campaign insists on living by the political sword, they should welcome dying by the political sword.

        • Lady Thinker says:


          And I suppose the “political sword” you speak of includes lying about a candidate in an attempt to destroy her electorial chances? Deal is terrified of Karen and his minions post stupid arguments to lessen her chances, but the intelligent voters see through their games.

          • Mayonnaise says:

            As far as I can tell there are two active liars in this campaign: Handel and McBerry. How fitting. 🙂

          • Go Dawgs! says:

            The ‘political sword’ was in reference to the ‘no rules, no standards, no apologies’ viewpoint of the people both in and behind the Handel camp. Live by no rules, die by no rules. Live by no apologies, die by no apologies. Operate your campaign according to no standards, and your campaign deserves whatever fate happens upon it.

            So, again, in short, live by the political sword, die by the political sword.

  9. Lady Thinker says:

    In the ‘For’ portion of the check, it does not say ‘membership’ so I am giving her the benefit of the doubt. Her camp says it was a check for a dinner so I am going to assume it was for a dinner.

    • Henry Waxman says:

      The only time I ever paid $75 for dinner was for a fundraiser. I wonder if people will think that raising money for the Log Cabin Republicans is better than being a member.

      • John Konop says:


        Do you think that gay people should be banned from the GOP, Country…?

        My issue with the Mark Foley situation is not that Nathan Deal raised money with a gay guy it is that Nathan Deal raised money with a congressman (Mark Foley) that abused his position and violated the law civil/criminal as a Congressman going after underage male pages.

    • Go Dawgs! says:

      Her campaign will say there were little green fairies that sprinkled magic dust on her hair…and you will likely believe that as well.

  10. John Konop says:

    More BS from Afghanstan……You would think after all we did……

    Japan Has ‘Priority’ On Rights To Mine Afghanistan Mineral Deposits, Says Hamid Karzai

    HP-Afghan President Hamid Karzai said this week that Japan — not the U.S. — takes priority over other nations when it comes to mining his country’s vast mineral deposits.

    Karzai made his proclamation during a five-day visit to Japan. Over that same time period, news reports surfaced that Afghanistan and Pakistan planned to negotiate with U.S.-NATO enemies, the U.N. reported that insurgent violence is surging, and Reuters tried to parse the Pentagon’s mixed messages over U.S. strategy in Afghanistan.

    During an appearance at Japan Institute for International Affairs, Karzai focused on his country’s mineral deposits. He Pointed to Japan’s status as Afghanistan’s second-biggest donor, and reasoned that Japan should enjoy special access to Afghan resources with estimated values that range from $1-3 trillion dollars.

    “Morally, Afghanistan should give access as a priority to those countries that have helped Afghanistan massively in the past few years,” Karzai told the institute.

    • polisavvy says:

      Did you not find this to be an enormous kick in the pants? I couldn’t believe it when I heard it this morning. I realize that Japan has been giving them money for years; however, we have passed a few dollars their way, too. Plus, we have sacrificed how many lives there? I view it as a giant kick in the pants!

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