Monday Morning Open Thread

There’s a lot going on, but I’m tied up at my real job and will be out of pocket most of the week.

Talk among yourselves until one of the other contributors posts some new material.

OPEN THREAD:

88 comments

  1. Tiberius says:

    This SC Dem controversy is just too good political filler. Assuming no Jim Garrison-like conspiracy here, the Dem’s response of going after the nominee instead of coming to grips with the fact that the SC Democratic party is so disorganized that a nobody who didn’t do anything beath their handpicked nobody.

    Even the White House’ Axelrod is getting involved with this. THe SC Dem party needs to wake up and see how irrelavent they are.

    • benevolus says:

      It’s a Tea Party wet dream. Isn’t that what they advocate? Throw the bums out! Career politicians are evil! Incumbents are evil! Political experience is bad!

      • Tiberius says:

        I’m not sure a very high % of Dem primary voters in SC would identify themselves as Tea PArtiers. Just a hunch.

        I think this was a–“I don’t know either guy. He’s first on the list.” We should see the vote difference btween the Sen race and the Gov race.

    • benevolus says:

      “This is the rage and anger I hear in the Tea Party movement; it is the sound of jilted lovers furious that the other — the anonymous blob called simply “government” — has suddenly let them down, suddenly made clear that they are dependent and limited beings, suddenly revealed them as vulnerable. And just as in love, the one-sided reminder of dependence is experienced as an injury. All the rhetoric of self-sufficiency, all the grand talk of wanting to be left alone is just the hollow insistence of the bereft lover that she can and will survive without her beloved. “

    • Jace Walden says:

      They’ll have to caveat that poll with a disclaimer:

      All votes going toward someone other than Karen Handel or Tom Graves will not be counted.

        • ZazaPachulia says:

          even on here, I think Mr. Undecided will do pretty well.

          I’m undecided. I’m still trying to sort out which candidate from Brunswick I should support: the longshot who would be a better governor than the other 6 left in the primary field or the one who would make an outstanding protest vote against Handel, Deal, Ox, McCreepy and Johnson…

  2. B Balz says:

    Rock ’em, Sock ’em Lobbyists:

    Your morning jolt: Lobbyists in hand-to-hand combat over a bill — for eats and drinks 9:57 am June 14, 2010, by Jim Galloway

    As lawmakers returned from the coast last week, we picked up word of some serious, hand-to-hand competition between two lobbyists down at St. Simons Island.

    The occasion was the Georgia Chamber of Commerce’s annual summer retreat. We’re told by very reliable state Capitol sources that, last Tuesday night, a pair of lobbyists treated several lawmakers and clients in the drinking section of the Village Inn and Pub, famous for its wild orchid martinis.

    One lobbyist was stuck at a table with the clients. The other lobbyist landed the table with the legislators. When bill-paying time came, the lobbyist stuck at the children’s table refused to pay.

    Insults were exchanged, and the two lobbyists ended up rolling on the restaurant floor. The fight was broken up before law enforcement became formally involved.

    The two lobbyists: Graham Thompson, whose clients in the last session included the Georgia Association of Health Plans, Sprint, and Satellite Tracking of People, a Texas organization; and John Clayton, whose clients in the last session included several physician and emergency response groups, Imperial Sugar, and the Corrections Corporation of America.

    We’ve attempted to contact both gentlemen, and haven’t heard back. But we await their June disclosures, which should tell us who ultimately paid the bill. And who was there.

    Clayton, many in the state Capitol will recall, was identified by police as the victim in a fracas with a fellow lobbyist at a 2007 sine die party, also attended by many lawmakers. Clayton took a beer bottle to the right side of his head.

    • Mama Bear says:

      it just does not get any better than this. Although I am surprised it took us this long to find out about it!

  3. Mayonnaise says:

    Do you think Karen Handel still carries her Log Cabin Republican membership card in her purse?

        • TheSituation says:

          Mayo has a serious hard-on for Karen. His last 100 posts are about the fact that she spoke to some Log Cabin Republicans back when she was running for Fulton Commission Chairman. Are you in the closet, Mayo? Does homosexuality fascinate you? Is that the real reason that your handle is Mayonnaise? Go grab a playboy or playgirl mag and get passed it. NO ONE CARES.

          • Mayonnaise says:

            “….. she spoke to some Log Cabin Republicans back when she was running for Fulton Commission Chairman. ”

            Ummmm….she lied and so are you.

            “I am also a member of the Georgia Log Cabin Republicans [Gay Activists] and participated in this year’s [Gay] Pride Weekend activities…” Karen Handel 2003

            • TheSituation says:

              I’m pretty sure that she did speak to some LCR back when she was running for Fulton County Commission Chairman, so I’m not exactly clear on what I lied about. Everything else I stated was either a question except for my statement about you having a hard-on for Karen. That is also a 100% fact. EJ = TOAST

        • ZazaPachulia says:

          Hey Mayo, as much as I like to see anyone dog Karen Handel on Peach Pundit, I find it rather amusing that your internet moniker is so similar to your GOP guv’nah candidate of choice… Both your sandwich topping nickname and your candidate are slimy, white and really nasty when you leave it (him) in the sun for all to see.

  4. B Balz says:

    Ms. Sue Everhart blasts Mr. Dan Becker in AJC:

    Here’s exactly what Everhart said:

    “Mr. Becker and I don’t agree on a lot of things. We’re both pro-life. But our approach to our message is a lot different. I do not – nor do members of my party – give a litmus test to people who want to come into the party. We don’t say you can’t run…for the position if you are pro-choice.

    “I’m sure that we have many people in our party that are not pro-life. It’s not don’t-ask-don’t-tell, but we’re conservatives. And I think that is the important thing. Maybe I shouldn’t say this, but Mr. Becker had requested that I put something on the state [primary] ballot. I said absolutely not.

    “It is a social issue. I am interested in taxes, the economy, and the safety of my family in our own home.

    “Karen Handel is pro-life…I don’t care what her exceptions are. She is pro-life. I don’t ask people, ‘What is your exception?’ And Mr. Becker is not the voice of the Georgia Republican party or the national Republican party. He represents very few people as far as being as outspoken as he is.

    “I would say that two-thirds of the Georgia Republican party is pro-life. And the ones that say they’re pro-choice, they will say, ‘I’m pro-life for myself, personally. I just don’t agree that I should bother with other people’s rights.’”

    I am glad Ms. Everhart made this statement, last weeks new gaffe was bad for Ms. Handel, worse, a potentially devastating for the GOP in Georgia.

    • Harry says:

      If Karen Handel were not pro-life I wouldn’t support her. But, she is pro-life. Sure, anti-life folks can run on the GOP side for office in Georgia…but they won’t be nominated or elected.

      • B Balz says:

        Harry, sadly you may be correct. I have said it many time, there is no such thing as the Pro-Abortion faction or for that matter ‘anti-life folks’.

        If the anti-gun crowd ran the GOP, then where would we be?

        I do not believe it is in the best interests of ANY citizen, for ANY group to have control over either political Party. Hence bowersville’s prescient comments about this last week.

        • Harry says:

          Washington, DC — For only the second time in any previous Gallup survey, almost half of Americans say Democrats, led by President Barack Obama and his pro-abortion allies in Congress, are too liberal. Voters are less likely to say Republicans, who tend to be pro-life, are too conservative.

          • B Balz says:

            pro-abortion allies in Congress: Well, that’s just wrong-minded to be pro-abortion. Good Grief.

        • Bucky Plyler says:

          GRTL has control over the GOP ? I wish it did ! Interesting premise..Ralston doesn’t seem to agree…many Rep. lawmakers can be persuaded off their “pro-life” positions…

          • B Balz says:

            That’s a dangerous position to advocate, Mr. Plyler.

            Speaker Ralston, to his genuine credit, did right by Georgia, this year. Bills that seek to make bio-technology research illegal, after TWENTY+ years of investment are simply mind-boggling.

            This issue has the unique opportunity to dissolve the GOP majority in Georgia. While many pro-life folks indicate this is not their most important issue, it is the one issue that is heard most loudly.

            Most people agree with Ms. Everhart’s position: “I’m pro-life for myself, personally. I just don’t agree that I should bother with other people’s rights.’”

            That is the essence of it, less governmental interference in the most personal aspects of one’s life.

            • Bucky Plyler says:

              I understand your arguements & disagree with them with no thought to owning a dangerous position. One of the pimary functions of Gov’t is to protect life. The danger is already there when Gov’t does not do so.

              • B Balz says:

                If the US Supreme Court reviews and overturns Roe v. Wade, then there is a new day for the pro-life movement. Until then, the ‘smaller laws’ such as, sonograms or the attempt to make abortion illegal for doctors to perform, will be seen for what they are – the will of one group to gnaw at the law of the land.

                The present situation, although certainly not my druthers, allows for personal choice. As terrible as those choices may be, they are allowed under the law.

                • Bucky Plyler says:

                  Thus the reason for those “smaller laws” to eventually challenge Roe v Wade in SCOTUS. This same gnawing will you identify was diplayed in those who wanted to outlaw slavery so that a slave would have personhood.

                  • B Balz says:

                    Challenging Roe v. Wade, we’ll see how that goes. Activist judges are bad, except when they are good, huh?

                    Interesting point linking the use of legal precedent to make abortions illegal, again, and the abolition of slavery. I am going to process that for awhile.

                    I can just imagine seeing Abe Lincoln trying to say ‘personhood’ with a straight face! Freedom has more of a ring to it.

                    Consider “Freedom for the Cells!” as a slogan.

                    • Bucky Plyler says:

                      How about this ? :
                      “We Are People Too”
                      “The Results Are In Adult Stem Cells”

                    • B Balz says:

                      It is pretty easy for folks who have their health to oppose unproven technology, especially one that has a measurable, though manageable ethical cost. Tens of thousands of Georgians are diagnosed with chronic, debilitating illness. I like “We are People, Too” as a slogan for them.

                      Results only occur from testing. By that same logic, Lewis and Clarke should never have ventured West, the Moon should have remained ‘a giant step’ and the human genome should have been impossible to decode.

                      Not trying to change your mind, Sir, that will not happen. My purpose is for our gubernatorial candidates to read this and think about balance on this issue.

                    • Bucky Plyler says:

                      BBalz, the truth is that the research has been going on for decades with the same results. Adult stem cells win!

                      The cures that people need may come from their own bodies.

                    • B Balz says:

                      Won’t argue the issue of pluripotency with you, Sir. There are folks who are a lot more educated than us both and — and they disagree with you and each other!

                      Here is current, hard science that disputes the adult stem cell ‘same as’ argument:

                      http://im1.biz/iPS.htm

    • benevolus says:

      Why doesn’t Everhart feel safe in her own home? She can shoot anyone who tries to intrude. There are thousands of private companies that provide all sorts of protections. What does she want the government to do to protect her?

      (I should probably change my name to Sarcasticolus.)

      • B Balz says:

        Double ditto! The GOP ought not ever endorse a litmus test – Unless it is for not saluting the flag.

  5. TPNoGa says:

    I am not happy about this realignment of college football. I am a Baylor alumni and just disgusted by it all. Save the Big XII!

      • ZazaPachulia says:

        That’s what I’m saying… TPNoGa, you couldn’t find a photo of one of Baylor’s great Olympic sprinters to use as your image?

        The Bears might not be football legends… and the hoops team has seen a rough patch here recently, but I’d represent ‘400-U’ if I could.

        • TPNoGa says:

          I am most proud of our basketball team. They were in such a bad place a few years ago. In fact, I happened to be in Waco, visiting my old school and Crawford when they found Patrick’s body. It was such a bad time. Imagine, they made it to the elite eight and gave Duke all they could handle. Awesome.

      • TPNoGa says:

        I got my Master’s degree from UF. Plus, it’s fun to annoy Icarus, and I don’t think a Baylor logo would do that.

        But if by some miracle, the Big XII survives, I will change my av to Baylor in wild celebration. Truth be told, if Baylor somehow played Florida, I would support my Bears. Although, I have a feeling it would be a very long game.

    • Doug Grammer says:

      What a jerk. He thinks he has the right to know the identity of everyone who asks him a question? And he has the right to grab people on the street until they answer his questions? Does he think he is a congressman or a member of the KGB?

    • Hill Rat says:

      I saw him in the Capitol the day after this video hit Drudge, and I was so tempted to go up to him tell him and demand that he tell me his name since he seems to think we have a right to know the name of anyone we see in public.

      • Hill Rat says:

        I have to either get a laptop with bigger keys or stronger glasses:

        I saw him in the Capitol the day after this video hit Drudge, and I was so tempted to go up to him and demand that he tell me his name since he seems to think we have a right to know the name of anyone we see in public.

    • Go Dawgs! says:

      “BERSERK”?

      Oh, these college kiddies with their iPods and their Netbooks…but, still cannot spell.

  6. TPNoGa says:

    Can someone remind me where the site is that I put my avatar on? I need to change it in celebration of the Big XII.

    Thanks.

  7. Concerned Conservative says:

    I wanted to throw something out there as the thread on the PSC poll is closed. I suggest that Tim Echols is the ONLY candidate of the bunch that is not a part of the capital culture, as Brush, May and especially Douglas are. As a matter of fact, both May and Douglas have been accepting a lot of money from special interests for years. Echols has pledged not to even take a cup of coffee from those people that he will regulate. Tim Echols is the right man for the Public Service Commission.

    • Icarus says:

      Tim Echols sells the free child labor of homeschoolers for his own personal profit. He’s part of the Oxendine shakedown machine. I’ll take someone from the Capitol anyday over someone that was part of the Oxendine syndicate.

    • Doug Deal says:

      I’ve heard Brush speak, along with all the other candidates, and he is the only one that made it clear he understands how power generation even works.

      I do not have much invested in this race, but he did know what he was talking about.

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