Shafer Slams Hank Johnson in Letter to Governor

In a letter urging the Governor to sign SB 291, an NRA backed bill that would allow holders of Georgia firearms permits to carry weapons in non-secure areas of the airport (parking lot, pick up and drop off lane, baggage claim, etc.), Senator David Shafer blasts Congressman Hank Johnson and other critics of the bill. Letter below:

Allow me to address the outlandish criticism offered by Senator Frank Lautenberg, Congressman Hank Johnson and President Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder, among others.  With regard to the airport, Senate Bill 291 applies only to holders of Georgia firearms licenses, and only to areas of the airport where firearms are not prohibited or regulated by the federal government.  The suggestion that Islamic terrorists might obtain Georgia firearms licenses in order to brandish weapons at baggage claim is as ridiculous as Congressman Johnson’s worry that the island of Guam might tip over because of the deployment of additional American soldiers.  Please do not be deterred or cowed by the absurd claims of those who want Americans to be dependent on the government for everything from their health care to their personal safety.

Jim Galloway has the full story and a copy of Shafer’s letter.

62 comments

    • mountainpass says:

      Mrs. Carter,
      It was a pleasure to meet you after the 2A Breakfast in Altanta a couple of months ago. What most folks don’t know is that 40 states allow airport carry in non-secure areas right now.

      I have been a visitor on this site for a while and decided to join in the discussion. I live up here in the North Georgia mountains and am a member of GeorgiaCarry.Org . We have worked hard this session to see SB291 and SB308 pass, and hopefully become law. Up until two years ago I had never so much as emailed a politician, now I’m calling, hand writing letters, meeting with them, and sitting in on committee meetings at the capitol. I’ve actually enjoyed it, as warped as that sounds. Great site yall have here.

      • B Balz says:

        the power of citizen advocacy is as great as our Founders envisioned.

        Not too sure if I like the idea of college kids packing, or the .ooX% of the population in the airport parking lot fighting over a space with a .40 Glock, but welcome none the less.

        • mountainpass says:

          Thanks guys.

          B Balz the bill SB308 will only allow a person with a license to have a gun in their car while parked on campus.

          As for parking lot fights by license holders, that hasn’t been a problem elsewhere in the state that I’m aware of.

  1. Lady Thinker says:

    Nobody, except criminals, have anything to fear from the passsage of this legislation.

      • seenbetrdayz says:

        It’s got nothing to do with whether or not anyone trusts the police to do the job; it has to do with whether or not someone should have the freedom to save themselves from a terrible situation without having to rely solely on the attempts of others to save them.

        And expecting someone to risk his/her life for you as though you’re entitled to their sacrifice is a shame.

        • ByteMe says:

          someone should have the freedom to save themselves from a terrible situation without having to rely solely on the attempts of others to save them.

          You always have the freedom to run. To shoot at people in a crowded airport, not so much.

          • Doug Grammer says:

            You also have the option of shooting back if you have a weapon with you. It’s kind of hard to outrun a bullet.

            • ByteMe says:

              Hence my second sentence. I really don’t want most of the nuts out there to be able to just shoot their gun off in a crowded airport when they feel “threatened”.

              • Mozart says:

                Usually it is the licensed gun owner who is the most calm in the situation and will pull-out the gun in order to first warn and neutralize the threat…and then fire if the idiot doesn’t stop aggressive moves. You appear to presume everyone with a concealed gun is itching for the opportunity to pull it out and use it at will.

                • ByteMe says:

                  You say “usually” like you have anything other than anecdotal “evidence”. Show it.

                  Otherwise, here’s a stat people need to think seriously about: we have more murders per-100,000 people than ANY other developed country on the planet. We also have the most lax gun laws. There are no coincidences.

                  • Mozart says:

                    ByteMe,

                    You know what a “murder” is? It is the “illegal” killing of another human being.

                    The licensed to carry gun owners are not the ones illegally killing people. It is the unlicensed people who are the murderers because THEIR victims are not armed to defend themselves.

                    If the per 100,000 murder capita was mostly caused by legally licensed gun owners, we’d have those statistics right now because you can bet your media pals would broadcast it day and night. They don’t because there’s no relevance between the licensed to carry concealed gun owners and the murder rate itself.

                    There’s your “proof.” There’s your ”
                    evidence.” Deal with it as best you can.

                    • ByteMe says:

                      You claim that the licensed gun owners are not the ones killing people, but you still offer no evidence to back up your claim.

                      There are more guns out there than people. Guns don’t kill people; people with guns kill people.

                    • Mozart says:

                      But, where is YOUR evidence that it is licensed gun owners doing the murdering??? You are the one who claims there are so many murders out there.

                      Who’s doing all the murdering? The guns? No, people. What kind of people? Criminals. Your kind of people, Byte.

                      Intellectually, Byte, you appear to be bankrupt. Significantly in the red.

                    • Mozart says:

                      Byte: “You claim that the licensed gun owners are not the ones killing people, but you still offer no evidence to back up your claim.”

                      What I said was licensed gun owners are not the ones murdering people. There is a difference between “killing” and “murdering” someone, Byte.

                      But, you still likely don’t get the distinction.

                    • ByteMe says:

                      Oh, I get the distinction and yet you don’t have any basis for your “facts” other than anecdotes. Try again. Or not.

                    • Mozart says:

                      “When the law went into effect, the Dade County Police began a program to record all arrest and non arrest incidents involving concealed carry licensees. Between September of 1987 and August of 1992, Dade County recorded 4 crimes committed by licensees with firearms. None of these crimes resulted in an injury. The record keeping program was abandoned in 1992 because there were not enough incidents to justify tracking them. (13)(15)”

                      http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

                    • Mozart says:

                      “221,443 concealed carry licenses were issued in Florida between October of 1987 and April of 1994. During that time, Florida recorded 18 crimes committed by licensees with firearms. (15)

                      Wowee….18 out of 221,443 is 0.01% over 7 years. Byte, in short, the statistical significance of crimes (which would include murder) committed by licensed carry-conceal owners is unrecognizable.

                      http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

                    • ByteMe says:

                      Yay! You brought facts and links. Excellent!

                      I’ll allow that the limited number of carry conceal population would mean that crimes committed by them would be proportionally lower. So is the proportional difference significant or no? In other words, is the rate of crime committed by conceal carry people — relative to their small sample — less than or greater than the rate of crime committed by the general population?

                    • Mozart says:

                      I wasn’t aware that 221,443 instances of licensed concealed carry constituted a “small sample“.

                      Please, Byte, let me know the universe of large numbers where 221,443 is a “small sample?”

                    • ByteMe says:

                      Remember that you’re listing “crimes committed by licensees with firearms”, which is of course those crimes where the perp was caught. You’d think someone who could get a carry concealed permit would be a bit smarter than the average perp, right? Also, you think 200,000 is a large sample, yet there are… what?… over 400 million handguns out there?

                  • mountainpass says:

                    ByteMe,
                    Show me the “evidence” that “most of the nuts” (licensed holders?) are doing this now in the places they are legally carrying.

                    Also in reference to your “stat”.
                    Mau is responsible of murdering approximately 60 million of his unarmed citizens…..

                    • ByteMe says:

                      What makes you think China in the 1950’s was anything close to a “developed” country?

                    • mountainpass says:

                      Why does it matter if the country was “developed” or not? Dead is dead.

                      OK…was Germany a “developed” country?

                    • ByteMe says:

                      And did Germany have gun control laws back then? What were they specifically?

                      The reason being “developed” matters is because there’s a HUGE difference between being alone in the rural country — which is a lot smaller area of developed countries — and being in a city with lots of people and the availability of professional law enforcement.

                      I’m not against all guns. You want to carry a rifle, have at it. But handguns have only one purpose and that’s to shoot people. You’d have to be an idiot to want to let other people keep those around and paranoid to think that you’re safer with one around (when all stats show exactly the opposite).

                    • mountainpass says:

                      Germany perfected handgun control gun control in 1938. Link : http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm

                      Thanks for asking but I am not “an idiot” or “paranoid.”

                      I fully support the police but they are not obligated by law to risk their life to protect mine. Although some do.

                      Ask this man about a handgun’s purpose: http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/would-be-burglar-shot-to-death-by-west-side-resident.html

                      The “developed” areas are the most dangerous.

                    • ByteMe says:

                      The “developed” areas are the most dangerous.

                      Noooo, that doesn’t sound paranoid at all…..

                      And a link to a gun nut site is just a link to a gun nut site and about as real as the “facts” proclaimed by some front page posters here. Try again.

                    • Mozart says:

                      Mountainpass, let me give you some advice with regards to the intellectually bankrupt ByteMe: “Wax-on…wax-off…wax-on…wax-off…Paint da fence…breathe-in, breathe-out…Lather…Rinse…Repeat…”

                    • ByteMe says:

                      Mozart, you tend to resort to name-calling when you have nothing of substance to contribute. We all get that about you.

                      You have better postings when you try to be funny. At least that way, you’re trying.

                    • Mozart says:

                      Byte,

                      I offer you substance and you whine about it. If you fail to accept logic and sound argument, then that makes you intellectually bankrupt and only wishing to play on the issue. I’m not interested in playing with you on this type of issue as you offer nothing that will educate me for my time invested.

                    • ByteMe says:

                      You’ve yet to offer substance. You just name-call. Take a hike if you don’t want to play.

                    • Mozart says:

                      “When the law went into effect, the Dade County Police began a program to record all arrest and non arrest incidents involving concealed carry licensees. bv>Between September of 1987 and August of 1992, Dade County recorded 4 crimes committed by licensees with firearms. None of these crimes resulted in an injury. The record keeping program was abandoned in 1992 because there were not enough incidents to justify tracking them. (13)(15)”

                      http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

      • Lady Thinker says:

        Benevolus,

        I do trust most of the police officers because a majority of them strive to do their job the right way, but with the shortage of them through furloughs, vacancies because of frozen positions, and a record number of them having been arrested lately for various offenses, there may not be one available when needed.

      • Mozart says:

        You think the police are given enough money, personnel, and equipment to prevent every murder? You’re a fool if you do.

  2. RynSea says:

    Tom Graves Casey Cagle and the former Speaker of the GA House go in to a bar. Everyone is screwed, cheated and cheated on.

    • Doug Grammer says:

      Ryn,

      Do you feel more important now that you’ve trash talked?

      BTW, good job Sen. Shafer.

  3. Locke and Load says:

    It wasn’t a bar.

    It was a Waffle House.

    On Memorial Drive. With a big telephone pole out front.

    And nothing happened. honest. They were just there to discuss getting West GA College a new building and Gulfstream a new whorehouse. I mean warehouse.

  4. ByteMe says:

    Yes, God forbid we should look to the government for safety at our government-run airports. 🙄

    Because you never know when that airport crime spree is going to happen.

        • Chris says:

          Who were promptly hired by the TSA, given a badge and federal benefits, and became even more full of themselves.

        • Mozart says:

          Huh. I seem to recall a video of an airport cop slamming a driver down to the ground. But, I’m sure that was just my imagination. Byte knows everything, of course. All cops are good. All people are bad.

          • Lady Thinker says:

            Not all cops are good as news reports of ones arrested nearly weekly show but there are far more good cops than bad ones. Bad cops have four victims:

            1) the person they are abusing,
            2) the good cops working hard to do the right thing,
            3) society because faith is lost in law enforcement, and
            4) the trampling of federal and state constitutions.

  5. macho says:

    Ask Congressman Johnson to make it a federal law to drive a car into the front of a store and steal jeans and TVs, then all “smash and grabs” will be eliminated.

  6. hannah says:

    I wish I could say I won’t travel on an airplane until those privacy invading gropers and machines are gone from the terminals. But, since I’ve never yet flown on a commercial plane, that wouldn’t be honest.
    I would appreciate learning why hiding a gun on one’s person is better or worse than not. But, I am inclined to agree that it’s people who cause mayhem, whether with cars or guns or sling-shots and, since our system of social organization presumes individual behavior to be good, until it’s proven not, people causing mayhem is just a risk we take.
    The state as security blanket against crazy and/or out of control people is a bit of a cop-out because people are even more unpredictable than the weather. Promising the impossible seems more attractive, for some reason, than actually taking action against known natural and man-made hazards.

  7. Game Fan says:

    I don’t want radiation in my package. Not to mention I don’t like police state jackasses and low-life perverts posing as authority figures.

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