Two items of note, neither favorable to the Graves for Congress campaign:
1) News broke of the Bartow County Bank suing Tom Graves and his business partner, Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers, in an attempt to settle a debt for a loan on investment property. The bank is looking for $2.25 million, and is claiming that Graves was “insolvent” at the time of the loan, as well as that he conducted a “fraudulent transfer” of the property.
Graves, it should be noted, already had a legal action against that bank, and the suit from the bank and the serious sounding charges are routine in situations where there are past due loan balances. There is nothing routine, however, when a person shares the titles of both “candidate” and “defendant”. There’s no way to spin this as good news.
2) John Linder has apparently recorded a robo-call calling Graves a liar regarding his activities campaigning with Linder for the FairTax. This one is quite a bit more curious, as it appears to be from Left Field, and there is photographic evidence and agendas/programs demonstrating that Graves has traveled to and appeared at events beyond Georgia with Linder and folks like Herman Cain in support of the Fairtax.
My gut here is that this one is quite forgetable, and some investigation as to who pushed Linder’s buttons is in order. But there’s one quote from the robo-call that will linger: Linder claims to not know who Tom Graves is. Tom Graves is supported on these pages because he helped found the 216 Group, a bastion for conservatism in the Georgia State House. He also was involved in a very public stand against former House Speaker Glenn Richardson.
For Linder to claim he doesn’t know who Graves is demonstrates that Linder has been isolated in D.C., and doing nothing to help build or reinforce the conservative movement here in Georgia. There will be no blowback to the retiring Linder over this, but Rob Woodall, Linder’s chief of staff, is running on the record of the continuation of the Linder dynasty.
Linder has demonstrated with this weird call that he is out of touch with Georgia conservatives. He’s also provided a death blow to any chance of Rob Woodall getting elected to Congress. Woodall, by assoiciation, is now officially out of touch with Georgia conservative politics.
I’ll have more to say about this later today. I appreciate the other front pagers holding back until I could get back to my computer and post this. I make no apologies for backing Tom Graves on these pages. But I also understand the importance of us posting all the relevent news on a campaign. So, for those looking to take their shots, have at it.
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We will see who is right one week from today now won’t we? When you guys slam Graves, you are also slamming Sen. Rogers…. I know many people in the 9th besides tea party activists. My hubby is from Forsyth County. Also, I have seen the emails that have gone out from activists in the 9th…
Also, are you denying that Hawkins bragged about going to an event with Biden that the Obama Administration was using to promote the stimulus? Obviously, you approved of the stimulus bill.
You are trying to damn by association. I — on the other hand — am very clear in the action that I believe to be fraudulent and Rogers had nothing to do with that action on the part of Graves. It was Graves’ action and his alone. The rest looks convoluted, but somehow the motel changed hands and the bank loan wasn’t paid off, and Rogers is also on the hook for that. Rogers — so far as the filings show — hasn’t tried to fraudulently hide assets from the bank like Graves did.
I have no idea if Hawkins bragged about anything. I don’t stalk people via Twitter. I leave that to the lonely and bored.
So you’re claiming the extent of your knowledge is people you know and not all the voters, right? Well, at least that’s a start to admitting you are not all-knowing about all voters in the 9th.
If you only had a brain. You’re a detriment to the Tea Party movement.
Yeah, that didn’t help anything.
Joshua, resorting to petty insults now? Really now, that is low even for you….
Bye vigorously defending Graves, the Pro-Graves forces are keeping his problems in the for front of the campaign. Without an all absolving response, Graves would be best served by letting the issue die. As for me, yes I do slow down to watch traffic accidents and political suicides.
Haha I just thought of something…and this is by no means an insult to the TEA party just please try and see the hilarity in this:
Is Graves soooo Taxed Enough Already!! (TEA) that it has perhaps led him to feel like he’s also sooo In Debt Enough Already!! (DEA)? Thus he’s just gonna do whatever he can to just not pay it ($2.25M)? Just kind of funny given all this
Rogers’ opponent is now calling for the Majority Leader to disclose all documents relating to the hotel deal — and suggesting the Ethics Commission may want to look into whether Rogers improperly reported his involvement in his state disclosure statements. If all of Chip’s sleezy deals come out — especially the ones out of Washington involving online gambling — he won’t be making that next big step to U.S. Congress he’s jonesing for.
I guess you Grave Diggers got Seth upset. http://www.gravesliemeter.com/
And Icarus as well…I think he is taking it out on me…
They parse words in defense of the Linder phone call much like the way Clinton parsed words. ” I did not have sex with that woman”..
debbie, this is not an attack, just a comment on how you will be remembered for your comments here when all is said and done.
The fact of the matter is, Tom is shady, business illiterate, and with practices such as what he did with this $2.25M, private banks all over our nation are shutting down and losing jobs…simple as that. That isn’t even speculative…the Bank has not received the payment on the loan, Graves handed over ownership and the gentleman (use that term loosely, he runs a methamphetamine 6 that Tom used to run) and the loan has miraculously disappeared and still hasnt been settled, and then we find he had fraudulently transferred property to AVOID TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for his loan. He embodies everything the TEA party is supposed to despise.
And I feel like im arguing with Eric Holder about this robo-call, Have you even heard it yet? Linder says that Tom was on the plane to MO with him, but he didnt invite him and didnt know why he was there, which led him to wonder why Tom would “parse” words and say he traveled the nation championing the FairTax with Linder. If you think going to MO and back is traveling the nation championing something (which every rational mind knows is what Graves was trying to get you to believe) than the Atlanta TEA party needs new leadership…especially if you can blindly continue to support Tom “not even close to being ethical” Graves.
And further, is the Atlanta TEA party more important and filled with better people than the other TEA parties around GA, more specifically the 9th district? I ask because I dont see what the Atlanta TEA party has anything to do with this race and makes up for the fact no 9th district TEA parties have endorsed him, unless it thinks it has more clout than the other TEA parties in GA which I think would be against a fundamental tenant. And further, if you say so many tea party activists in the 9th support Graves why haven’t they done so? Im sure you have tried to use your ever so dictatorial ATL TEA party status to try and urge them to?
Graves is the status quo i.e a crook…please people that can vote don’t punish the rest of the country by ignoring the writing on the wall. If this came out after Graves was in Congress it would be national news…don’t let the spin doctors fool you
Define “is”…..
We will see how Linder’s chief of staff does in the primary. My guess is he won’t do too well.
I keep seeing emails after emails from activists in the 9th in support of Tom. I think the Linder thing is having the reverse impact of what was expected.
Also did you see Rep. Cantor’s endorsement of Tom?
Big deal. Cantor’s chief strategist owns Creative Direct–the company that does Tom’s direct mail.
Hawkins attended a rally for the Obama stimulus bill. His comments are below. In particular, “”Instead, government should be supporting projects like the North Georgia Network that provide the tools businesses need to keep employees employed and to expand their reach’
He supports projects like the North Georgia Network that was paid for with sitmulus funds. Interestingly enough, Nathan Deal as attended and supported the projects.
“State Sen. Lee Hawkins, R-Gainesville, who is seeking the congressional seat Deal will vacate in 2010, praised the North Georgia Network for “providing the infrastructure many businesses need to operate” and creating the possibility for new jobs in the district.
“Government has no place in increasing bureaucracy in order to create jobs,” Hawkins said in a statement his campaign released Thursday. “Instead, government should be supporting projects like the North Georgia Network that provide the tools businesses need to keep employees employed and to expand their reach. Business should lead the private sector, not government.”
Debbie, please try and imagine how detrimental a blow this would be to the growing TEA party movement in this the most crucial election year of our lives:
“This just in, the newest member of Congress and TEA party favorite, Tom Graves from the GA-9th has only been in Congress 2 weeks and is already on his way home to answer to insolvency and bank fraud charges from the Bartow County Bank for not repaying a $2.25M loan and attempting to transfer the property to a trust to keep the bank from collecting on the loan. The Oglethorpe in, known to most as the Methamphetamine 6, is a low budget extended stay motel that is under new management. You may be wondering how the deed changed hands without the loan being settled. These are details that will be discussed in the hearing this week with Congressman Tom Graves and Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers.”
Not to mention how embarrassing to the 9th district for electing a crook – But then again Debbie, the American people have been very tolerant of behavior by elected officials like this in the past…especially the TEA party activists. I can see the Drudgereport headlines now. It should be great press for the republican party come this November, the most important mid-term elections of our lives
Imagine the blow to conservatives if Lee Hawkins is elected to Congress…
Good one. A crook or someone that gets called a RINO on a blog…hardly comparable.
If Hawkins wins:
“Lee Hawkins pulls out a surprise come from behind victory against Tom Graves. Speculators believe it to be due to Graves’ shady business dealings with Senate Majority Leader Chip Rogers coming to light. Graves enjoyed a 12 point lead over Hawkins after the special election but once the TEA party favorite was sued for $2.25M for defaulting on a loan then transferring property into a trust so as to not have to repay the bank, his numbers plummeted. This win for Hawkins shows that Americans will not stand with the status quo any longer by electing crooks with shady business pasts.”
So, either way this story will probably go national. I can only pray you haven’t aligedn the tea party so heavily with this crook that we don’t lose momentum. News flash Debbie: TEA partiers are anything but followers of a candidate no matter what. They want accountability on the part of their candidates and for them to show some personal responsibility. Both of which Tom has failed miserably at and it is baffling how you can’t see it. Good luck showing your face around meetings anymore when the Atlanta TEA party is a laughingstock for standing for everything the TEA party is SUPPOSED to stand against…crooks
Tom Graves is no crook and neither is Chip. Pretty desparate politics. You must know your guy is losing…
Tea party activists do not support RINOs like Hawkins. Tea party activists do not support people that attend a rally for the stimulus bill that raped taxpayers….Obviously Hawkins supporters see no issue with that.
Not a “crook” in the Nixonian sense, you mean? Just a fraud, which it appears you’re fine with. So be it.
Ill give you Chip…sort of. But ya, Byte, she is clearly ignoring the main point of my post. The fact is the TEA party candidates are getting A LOT of national press when they win (Rand Paul). But when Rand Paul won he didnt have multi-million $ lawsuits pending. IF Graves wins this is going to be a national embarrassment on the 9th when they Nation finds out the 9th voters voted for this crook after they already knew his shady dealings. And further a reflection on the TEA party that this Debbie lady has aligned so closely with a FRAUD.
And desperate politics? Has Tom told you that Hawkins made this all up? Hawkins had nothing to do with a single one of Tom’s shady business dealings and fraud, politics has nothing to do with it. Except for the fact that Tom is a politician and he should have been working his ass off to pay back this loan instead of trying to further his political career. Who does he really care about? What about people that had money saved in this bank? Tom obviously doesn’t care about them. Please respond like a rational human and not a kool-aid drinking Obama…I mean Graves supporter
Imagine the blow to your for profit company (ATL tea bag) if Lee Hawkins wins. The Tea Party needs no one to think they can control the group like an organization. They were doing just fine with out you.
I checked the deeds for Gordon County. There has been no transfer of the Tich Hospitality warranty deed and no cancellation of the $2.25 security deed. There is also a later security deed for $55,000 that has no cancellation.
It seems Graves and Rogers sold Tich Hospitality to someone, who took on the debt as well as the property. This is the only way they could say they don’t own it anymore without having a deed change hands. Who would pay money for a seedy motel with a really big debt?
I think this is beginning to look like The Producers with Rogers as Max Bialystock and Graves as Leo Bloom. I certainly hope there is some sort of disclosure about what really happened before people in the district have to vote.
If Doug Grammer or ByteMe are still around, I’d like to know if you guys can think of any other explanation.
It sounds like the data you have is jiving with what we already knew and what we could infer. Sell/Divest their interest in the LLC but forget to pay the bank and assume the LLC would be the responsible party… but that’s not how loans with personal co-signers work and someone with business acumen — something that the GravesDiggers claim about Graves — should have known that.
And then, of course, there’s the fraudulent transfer of Graves’ personal property that could have been used to satisfy the debt to an entity not covered by the loan….
So far so good. Now we need to see the original loan docs to see if the personal property that was transferred was listed on the loan app as a personal asset for the sake of getting the loan.
Maybe Rogers should insist on the Ethics Investigation, that way his campaign funds could cover his attorney’s fees…
One n done , Atlanta Tea Party has members across the metro Atlanta area, including the Ninth District. In fact my in-laws live in Cumming.
Also, tea party activists got involved in races out side their district with the Scott Brown race in Massachusetts, NY 23, Rubio in Florida and many other races. Guess you want to complain about that as well…
The bottom line is I would have not gotten as involved as I am in defending Tom had the Hawkins campagin not run such a sleezy campaign and try to portray Hawkins as a good conservative and had his supporters attack the tea party..
I believe the whole thing with the bank loan will end up backfiring. All the facts have not been in the press yet. More to come…
Did you guys were Mike Pence endorsed Tom? Hawkins has the endorsement of Congressman Linder. Graves has the endorsement of Cong. Westmoreland, Cong. Eric Cantor and Cong. Mike Pence. I will take those three any day over a Linder endorsement.
I think Linder is a good person but has listened to wrong advise from the wrong people and allowed himself to be used..
I believe the whole thing with the bank loan will end up backfiring. All the facts have not been in the press yet.
I’ll bet you said the same thing about Ralph Reed and the Indian Casinos.
Based on what Tom has admitted so far in the filings and what the bank has included, Tom’s going to be found guilty of civil fraud if he doesn’t figure out a way to settle the case before more info is made public.
Was Ralph charged with a crime?
I don’t believe Tom will be found guilty of anything. I don’t believe for a minute that Tom and Chip Rogers were involved with anything shady..I also don’t think all the facts have come out yet. Stay tuned to see..
We just have a few more days to see if it did backfire…
Did Ralph win? No? You think maybe voters didn’t need to see a conviction to know a charlatan when they see one?
You’re just hoping the facts don’t come out before the runoff. That cheapens your “brand”.
Au Contraire, I DO hope all the facts come out before the election and I mean all the facts…
Conversation over…you are out of your mind. Sorry for personal attacks but I am in awe. It is voting like this that keeps putting crooks in Washington and then we are surprised when news breaks that they have done something unethical? You deserve what you get if you vote for this guy
And the fact that you can “think the whole thing with the bank will backfire” is inherantly wrong thinking in itself. For something to backfire would mean that you either A: think Hawkins made this up or B: That Hawkins made Graves fraudulently transfer property and default on a MASSIVE loan.
You are thinking that Graves didn’t actually do anything its just all a party of some silly game and “its just politics” NOT THAT HE ACTUALLY DID IT. Thats the exact thinking and voting that got all these crooks on both sides of the aisle elected. You can just put me under the “anyone but Graves” voter section
For something to backfire, Hawkins would have to have done something and already be winning. You can’t go from losing to more losing so nothing can backfire, even if he were to be the one suing tom, which he isnt, The Bartow County Bank is.
All the facts are not out yet because Bialystock and Bloom won’t be open about the terms of the Tich Hospitality loan, and the terms of the sale of Tich Hospitality. If Bialystock and Bloom want to prove theyre caught in a smear by a greedy bank they should clear it up right away. They don’t need any cout orders or permissions to disclose.
Debbie, if Ralph Reed were the candidate instead of Tom Graves, do you doubt he would be just as conservative in Congress? Would you be comfortable voting for Reed knowing how he created shell organizations and fake groups to attack conservates who wouldn’t support gambling legislation? Reed was never charged, but would you vote for him? Instead of Hawkins? Instead of Tarvin?
She’d prolly say she’d vote for Obama over Hawkins…she’s off Ralph Reeds stolen Indian Reservation if you ask me…who gave her the shovel to dig herself into this big of a Grave? Was it her politico slick candidate that has been lying to her?
We will see Tuesday now won’t we? Look at the people that have endorsed Graves. Pence is impressive and so is Cantor..
You should bet a steak dinner on it
I like Tarvin and had Graves not been in the race, he would have got my support. I would never vote for Hawkins, though..
Just like I have said, all the facts have not come out on this yet…
Has Ron Blagoyavich (sp.?) been convicted yet? No, but he is still crucified because this kind of news is sexy. Tom will be the same, if you cared about the TEA party movement and what the Republican party HAS to do this November you would be praying Tom loses.
Im not even a Hawkins supporter but I get enraged when I see BLIND support of candidates. You aren’t supposed to pick your guy at the beginning and stick with him no matter what, your opinions should change as you get to know candidates better…If it came out that Graves liked little boys you’d probably still support him. This kind of blind support of candidates no matter what you find out about him is how we ended up with OBAMA! (i.e. “God Damn America”, and his millions of other extremist leanings). Bottom line: Fraud like this from a TEA party candidate will hurt the momentum the TEA party has, whether you want to open your eyes or not Debs
AlanR,
Please feel free to contact me personally off PP. You may have done some digging that I can’t been able to do. Sorry for my almost two day absence. I went to Atlanta for the Con. Mike Pence event that was held by Fulton County GOP yesterday, spent the night, and had a very long work day today. Until I have more details, I don’t think I can shed any more light than what I have.
As far as the business changing hands, it’s possible that there was some type of private unrecorded note where the new owner of Tich is making payments to Rep. Graves and Sen. Rogers.
Hola Doug!
Even in the event that the business changed hands and there’s now an unrecorded note paying Graves and Rogers, that does not absolve either of them of the responsibility to pay off the bank loan that they personally guaranteed. That release has to come from the bank and it sure does sound like they aren’t interested in that happening on the Meth 6, does it?
And Graves’ latest tactic of waiting several days and then wrapping himself in piousness tells me that there’s definitely more to this story that will turn out very badly for Graves. Con men distract with shell games and this feels very much like a shell game he’s playing to buy time until he gets elected.
In time of our Nation’s most troubling of times, here is another ringer to put in the drivers seat. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.
But he does have ‘lush black hair’ according to dainty Jim Galloway.
“I don’t believe for a minute that Tom and Chip Rogers were involved with anything shady” – Deb, you kill me!
one n done, pretty easy to know which political operative you are….
@Debbie0040 I am not a pol op and would encourage you to see if y’all can get a 2.5% loan on $2MM+ from YOUR bank. See, it is not about guilty or innocent, to me, it is about the whiff of special favors, impropriety, that ANY GOP candidate has, at this time.
After the Speaker-who-shall-not-be-named, the GOP is especially vulnerable to this sort of bad press.
I have no horse in the race, it is not my District, it just looks bad.
Looks worse when he tried to hide his assets to keep them from being seized to pay off the loan he personally guaranteed. That’s soooo OJ, y’know?
Am i under the false impression that you don’t have to be a consultant/staff to post on this website? My mistake. Take your best shot Debbiedo…
I have seen it all now:
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/rogers-graves-say-inn-540814.html
So, after this story has been out there for about a week, Graves and Rogers have decided to take another spin on things: we were operating a Christian mission and providing a public service for the down-an-out. If you are a politician in a jam, it never hurts to get Jesus on your side, particularly when you are trolling for votes in the 9th District.
While there may have been some church referrals and some low-income housing clients (for which I am sure they were adequately compensated by a federal government program that they would otherwise despise), I can assure you that the Oglethorpe Inn also housed its fair share of meth-heads, dope-head, sex offenders and illegal aliens from Mexico (they shouldn’t be here, but I will gladly take their money).
Finally, I am still amazed by the hubris and gall that allows sophisticated businessmen to actually argue that they don’t owe the debt because they sold the Inn. Even setting aside the argument that the sale was an utter sham, does anyone believe if they sell their house they are automatically are relived of their duty to pay their mortgage. Graves and Rogers know that if the Inn were sold that either (1) the mortgage would have to be paid off in conjunction with the sale or (2) the mortgage would have to be assumed by the Buyer with a release of liability signed by the Bank. Neither occurred. This “I sold it so I don’t owe it” defense is ludicrous.
From the Tom Graves Facebook Page:
Facts vs. Attacks. Read the the AJC story below outlining the charitable missions that took place at the hotel Tom once owned. Since the facts don’t match his false, negative attacks, Lee Hawkins has now resorted to calling a minister and nonprofit agencies that help the less fortunate liars. Please forward to your friends.
Really? So if he connects some church activities and a claim of “charitable” work done at the hotel, Graves thinks this makes it okay to not pay the mortgage and to make shady deals.
Okay… got it.
HAHA I’m pretty sure every scandal/fraud that has ever come out about a politician has taken the I’m Christian I do no wrong turn…didn’t Foley even try and use the Christian defense? He proves even more so to be the status quo…pathetic
Finding one’s way, through the Lord, leads to the path of redemption. It can also buy you votes.
I’m sure the massage parlors in Macon do some charitable work from time to time and maybe even help some ministers out, too
Oooh, I especially like this part of the story:
“Officials from the Gordon County school system and the Tallatoona Community Action Partnership said they have spent federal taxpayer funds on rent for needy families to stay at the inn. The partnership spent its federal stimulus funds on rent there this year, while the school system spent federal grant funds at the inn last fall, officials said.”
That is SO conservative of Tom to accept federal stimulus funds and grant money as he did his charity and church work in the hotel he wouldn’t pay for. What an example to all of us.
I understand your concern. Those federal funds should have only been spent in Hall County.
You really like telling people what they think these days, don’t you? I’m pretty good at expressing my concerns for myself, and you know what you said isn’t even close.
No, I like screwing with people who pull for the homeboy without any consistent logic.
Worst campaign ever. (or at least this cycle. Lee didn’t claim he was coming to Dalton and bringing Hell with him, so there’s hope.)
Hawkins has been on all sides on every issue this campaign. He was for stimulus funds before he was against them. He was for PAC money before he was getting beaten by it. He was the invincible “conservative republican” before he had to become the “everyone from Hall County can vote for me to save us from the western district hicks” candidate.
Pick which Hawkins you want, he’s been all things to all people during this election.
Except in first place.
Ouch.
You know better than that, Ic. I’ve been debating this race on principle all along.
I know Lee, and you obviously don’t. He’s a genuine conservative who tells the truth. He didn’t wait until his 7th year under the Dome to do something. He didn’t cave to pressure from moderates to get a bill passed so that he could have a misleading campaign line. He hasn’t built a campaign on his celebrity status among some groups whose leadership think they’re conservative but can be easily wooed with slick talk. He doesn’t have a shady business background.
Lee is working hard for support in his hometown, as well as the rest of the district. You shouldn’t speak so disrespectfully of people in the western part of the district. No one in the Hawkins campaign has made characterizations like that. In fact, didn’t Tom come over and set up his first headquarters in Forsyth County? Isn’t he having his election night party at Big Canoe? Why not somewhere in his hometown? Does Tom feel the way you mentioned about the people in the west end of the district?
Where’s your “consistent logic”?
Joshua, I was also thinking about that and wondering if the GravesDiggers would mention how charitable he was to accept Federal stimulus money for his own personal project — a similar thing to the charge they like to accuse Hawkins of by being nearby when VP Biden came to provide stimulus funds to a local company.
Hypocrites for not slamming Graves over it? Yup.
Where’s Debbie to defend Graves’ PERSONAL acceptance of stimulus funds?
On the other hand, you weren’t the right person to bring it up, because you are definitely a HawkinsHomer™.
Atticus Grinch,
Who would invest in a methouse 6…seriously….I know…Tom Graves…wait a minute…he’s very religious…it couldn’t be him…I am sure he had no idea who patronized the facility…or maybe he did…and wanted to distance himself from the debt…and the use…not necessiarilly in that order…or maybe in that order…
You guys crack me up…shoveling all this mud will not earn Lee Hawkins one vote on Tuesday. The mud strategy failed miserably on 5/11th and it will be rejected again next week.
Tom Graves is going to trounce Lee on Tuesday and you guys will have to find a new outlet for your rage at all things Graves and all things Conservative.
Lighten up folks, this will all be over soon for you.
I’m pretty sure it is the AJC not the Hawkins campaign “slinging truth” so you might want to try censoring the press. Another blind follower…if he was getting sued and wasn’t running for congress who would Tom blame then? And imagine if Hawkins was a crook, which from what I’ve seen he isnt, don’t you think Tom would say something like “As a strong Christian I believe the truth on Mr. Hawkins should be told, I can’t believe he would be so irresponsible with other peoples Jobs and call himself a conservative by stealing from members of a bank who have their own saved money at stake”.
GOPnotsoconservative, you may be right about Graves winning, that doesn’t make it right, it just means that every “progression” that the republican party was hoping to make in the November election will be negated when everyone finds out North Georgia is still electing the same ol’ crooks that keep getting sent to D.C. and that the Atlanta TEA party supported it. At least Tom can follow in Deal’s footsteps…as unethical of course
*correction* that was directed at GOPgrassroots, i had scrolled down so far and figured that GOPconservative was everyones name on PP
Very interesting you claim the Hawkins campaign was not involved with mud slinging.
Are you denying the facts in the following link?
http://gravesforcongress.org/pages/51/there-you-go-again
On April 23, 2010, a snooping Rick Farr made an open records request for documents related to Tom Graves’ businesses. Farr is a business associate of Hawkins’ advisor and largest contributor Tommy Sandoval who also ran Hawkins’ campaign for State Senate. Sandoval and his wife have contributed $16,532.00 to the Hawkins Congressional Campaign (as of 3/31/10 FEC Report).
One, Tom Graves is no crook. Are you also calling the Georgia Senate Majority Leader a crook? Atlanta Tea Party supported the strong conservative in the race that we felt had the best chance of winning. Tom has been involved with Atlanta Tea Party since 2-27-2009 and we did talk to our activists in the 9th and others before the endorsement was made. One or two people did not make the decision to endorse Tom. Did you actually think we would support Hawkins? I can tell you that had Tom not been in the race, Tarvin would more than likely received the endorsement.
Thye bottom line the days are over when we support candidates because they are the lesser of the evils and have a R by their name. If you don’t give us a conservative to vote for, then you won’t get our vote. NY 23 proved that..
You are being hypocrites for supporting a stimulus-accepting fraud, Debbie.
I think that Graves and Rogers need to change lawyers and hire someone who will properly represent them. Although Simon Bloom is a well respected “Superlawyer” he has somehow over looked some keys defenses in this case, based upon the public statements of Graves and Rogers. I have read his answer and his counterclaim filed back against Bartow County Bank and NOT ONE TIME does he state that Graves and Rogers don’t owe the Bank because they have sold the business. Almost as bad, NOT ONE TIME does he state that Graves and Rogers don’t owe the Bank because they rented some rooms to a Church and some community organizations. Finally, NOT ONE TIME does he state that Graves and Rogers don’t owe the Bank because the Bank is under a FDIC Consent Order and obviously has some problems.
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