56 comments

  1. ByteMe says:

    Perhaps his back got better once he surgically removed whoever was attached to his front…..

  2. redrock says:

    Didn’t he have surgery well over a year ago? This is really digging here.

    I’m no surgeon, but I don’t know of any surgery that has a recovery time of more than 2 – 5 months.

    • analogkid says:

      I think that’s the point. By your estimate, Cagle should have been able to campaign for governor the last 7-10 months with no problems. If so, then why did he drop out?

      • redrock says:

        Yes – I understand what you’re getting at.

        My point was that 2 – 5 months of being pulled out of fundraising and campaigning seems like it would kill a campaign.

        2nd point being that after 2 – 5 months of recovery you don’t have a be a bum who can barely walk for the rest of your life.

        • ByteMe says:

          My point was that 2 – 5 months of being pulled out of fundraising and campaigning seems like it would kill a campaign.

          Explain that to all the candidates who stayed in the legislature this session and couldn’t raise money from Jan through April.

          BTW, you know what’s involved in a triathlon? Go look it up and be amazed at what kind of shape you have to be in just to complete it.

          • analogkid says:

            Also, Cagle was considered by most to be the front-runner/ heir-apparent from day one, so I suspect it would have taken more than a couple months of downtime to erode that advantage.

          • redrock says:

            Lol – ByteMe – you seem so angry in your posts. Maybe I just read them wrong.

            Yes, and several months on top of the time you can’t raise money during session would seem to make it challenging to have a successful campaign.

            Ha – yes I am aware of what a triathlon is. I haven’t run one and never will – but agree – running them is impressive.

            • ByteMe says:

              Angry? Not even close. There are only one or two people out here who get me to the “annoyed” point and not one of them has posted in this thread so far. I’m cynical of politicians and their sycophants. I’m curious about facts. I’m regularly looking for something funny to write. But anger? Nah.

              As for facts: Erick might not have understood the type of race this was. It was a “sprint” triathlon, which is the shortest distances and includes only a 5K run and 750m swim. So I take back one thing: he didn’t need to be in amazing shape for it. Even my creaky body could have handled it.

              But my point about candidates being down for 4 months this year and still competing stands. Cagle with his name recognition and fundraising ability could have easily handled being down 2-5 months for back surgery/rehab.

              • edmund says:

                Byte, you’re probably right in your point that he could have still been competitive. You know what else? He could have even probably jumped into the Gubernatorial race the day before qualifying and been competitive. It doesn’t make a lick of difference.

                Anyone can look back and say “sure, Cagle could have made it work.” But when you’re facing a dangerous surgery, your doctor tells you you won’t be able to pick up a phone and hold it to your head or travel for months, and you’re in an extremely competitive primary it’s harder to see how everything will be just fine.

                The good news from Erick’s post is that we have an obviously healthy Lt. Governor who, amidst all that will be changing in state government come November, will continue to serve and be a source of valuable institutional knowledge.

                • ByteMe says:

                  So if I understand what you’re saying, you’re thinking this was an emotional decision made in the heat of a personal issue instead of a logical one.

                  If so, then I’m glad he’s not running for governor, since it doesn’t get easier as you move up the food chain.

              • edmund says:

                One last word to wrap it up.

                Byte, your point really isn’t to say “he could have still been competitive.” You don’t care whether the surgery changed his political plans or not, because you’re convinced the surgery was all a sham in the first place.

                Just take a look at your first comment on this thread to see what tired, false point you’re really trying to drive home.

                • ByteMe says:

                  edmund: you’re over-reading my funny snark at the top. Anyone who has been out here a while knows about the numerous discussions of the rumors of Cagle’s wandering body part. I was playing to that.

                  I really do think he had the surgery and that any back surgery is potentially a disaster waiting to happen. But I also think that it was an exceedingly weak reason to drop out of the Gov race.

              • gopgal says:

                My husband competed in both his first marathon and first sprint triathlon just a few weeks apart. He said the triathlon was exceedingly more difficult: between the transitions and the need to be more than just proficient at three sports.

                • ByteMe says:

                  I don’t disagree. I knew many people who did triathlons when I lived in Colorado and those people were in amazing shape. But those people were doing 2 sprints a weekend and an ultra (which includes the marathon) about once every 2-3 months. Crazy people.

                  But his experience is coming from trying to change his training from one centered around running to one that uses other muscles — I’ll bet it was the swimming that hurt the most, because that involves more upper-body strength than running or biking.

              • BuckheadConservative says:

                Correction: One of them just posted on this thread 😉

                And, and you’re right on about folks in Colorado. The whole state is manic about fitness. To unhealthy levels, really. I’ve heard doctors recommend you only run at most 2 marathons a year. Some of those folks run one a month. It’s torture on your body, really.

              • B Balz says:

                However, I am angry.

                I am angry the GOP failed to lead this Nation with conservative and fiscally responsible policies. Such as, pass a compassionate, yet patient-centric health care Bill, reform immigration, staunch the outflow of entitlements before we are destitute, shall I go on????

                I hear the familiar mantra, “but the Dems controlled Congress – Waaaaaaaaaa’. Give me results and not reasons.

                While ByteMe, may not be angry, I am.

                As to Sen. Cagle, y’all need to either put up facts or quit slandering this man. Whatever some ‘insiders’ think they know is obviously two bricks short of a wall or it would be out there by now. Is somebody is sandbaggin’ scoop or is this just poop?

                Resume speculation.

    • Romegaguy says:

      He’s implying that he is jealous he cant make it to the fridge without breaking a sweat while a guy with back issues is doing a triathlon

        • B Balz says:

          Hadn’t heard that line since 7th grade – Still lame, but I agree with you.

          Grow up people. Powerful men and women (I guess), in the glare of the spotlight, actually do things that powerful people do. Those things may not be right, acceptable, or moral, but for Heaven’s sake enough with the innuendo’s.

  3. If I were the Lt. Governor, I would too be trying to get all the practice I can in running in marathons – specifically putting distance between myself and other moving objects. Because I’m sure after the primary is over, and the AJC either releases the supposed pictures they have or other candidates start talking about what we have considered up until now rumors, that Carol Porter is going to look more and more like a legitimate threat and Cagle will have to put distance between himself and these rumors.

  4. AnyoneElse2010 says:

    While I try to give Cagle the benefit of the doubt. I just don’t see how you compete in a triathlon with as serious of a back injury as he alluded to. Not only has he had to compete in this event, but he has had to train hard for the past couple of months to get to the right point where he could finish.

  5. Mad Dog says:

    I’d like to give any GOP power holder the benefit of the doubt.

    Cagle had the race before his announcement. No one looked like they were going to challenge him. Most of the current candidates moved in after the water got bloody.

    I don’t buy the serious back surgery or the alleged months of recovery forced the great man out of the race. He could have had the surgery THEN EVALUATED the results. And THEN evaluate if the results would or would not stopped his ambitions.

    We may not be talking about Joe Montana, but we are talking about a man who claims he had a college football career and a career as a body builder … now competing in athletic events under an … assumed name?

    If it is Lowell Stacy “Casey” Cagle …

    • benevolus says:

      …and it’s not like he decided not to run for anything. He still chose to run for Lt. Gov, so it wasn’t a choice made on the possibility of a dramatic back problem at all.

    • Velasco says:

      HAHA – he had a career as a bodybuilder?

      You sure we’re all talking about the same guy – or are you thinking of the governor of California?

      I’m pretty sure he has always used his full name – at least I’ve always seen it on the campaign reports every year.

      • Mad Dog says:

        Valasco,

        Body builder … it’s in one of his many, many resume’s.

        Casey is his baby name. Also from one of his versions of how he was cast adrift in a reed basket.

        For some reason, while a child, he called himself, Casey. His parents or his mother liked it. And he became Casey instead of Lowell.

        It’s a baby name. Unless you want to say he legally changed his Christian name to Casey.

    • Velasco says:

      What is the lie again? – you’ve somewhat lost me with your scattershot banter.

      And where is the bio where he claims to be a former bodybuilder?

      I can’t seem to find that one…

      • Mad Dog says:

        What’s the lie?

        Is he Casey Cagle or Lowell Cagle?

        That is the bio he used during his clean campaign against Ralph Reed.

        You could just ask Lowell. While you’re at it, ask him about the consulting business in Atlanta…

  6. rightofcenter says:

    Here’s what I don’t get about this whole “affair” – if a quarter of the rumor mill was true, Cagle would have easily been defeated in the Republican primary if there was any proof at all. Also, he would have been easy pickings in the general. Yet, no one takes him on in the primary and the Dems can’t find a legitimate candidate to run against him (with all due respect to Carole Porter, who I’ve known a long time, but she’s a rookie with a very thin resume who doesn’t exactly strike fear in anybody). Something doesn’t add up – and my guess would be that no smoking gun exists even if there is any truth to the rumors at all.

    • AlanR says:

      Sometimes its about more than politics. Maybe he was concerned about the wear and tear on his family. A rumor with a few hundred thousand dollars behind it is more than just a rumor. It can really destroy your life.
      He’s in his early 40s and this is not his last shot at the title. It will come around again if he works at it. And maybe it will be under better circumstances.

  7. Mozart says:

    If this is Casey, it is entirely plausible and possible that the recovery from his surgery was without complications, and he got better faster due to his focus on resting enough after the surgery, and then a focus on a strict exercise regimen to re-build his back and body.

    But, Erick, please continue to display abject ignorance to anything beyond you sitting on your rear-end blogging about stuff 99.9999% of the people do not give a crap about.

  8. Lady Thinker says:

    This is on Wikipeduia regarding Cagle’s dropping out of the Governor’s race.

    “On April 15, 2009, Cagle withdrew from the governor’s race, citing a degenerative spinal condition and unspecified nerve and bone problems that required surgical treatment.[11] He will run for re-election as lieutenant governor instead.”

    I’m not a doctor but I don’t see how this type of disease can be healed completely in less than a year based on problems some of my friends have had similar to this. One friend has a steel rod in his back and can’t even walk a half mile, much less run a 5k.

    Is running for governor really that much harder than running to keep your current seat? Could the real reason be keeping his wandering eye scandal at bay?

    • edmund says:

      “Is running for governor really that much harder than running to keep your current seat?”

      What sort of stupid rhetorical question is this?

      • Lady Thinker says:

        If you can’t figure it out, I’m not going to take the time to educate you. Moving on.

        • Velasco says:

          Lady – you clearly don’t need to educate anyone on here.

          Yes, running for governor is without a doubt much more difficult than to win re-election to your current seat.

          That is true for Cagle, Oxendine, Handel, Johnson, Deal, ect.

    • Wiley says:

      Yes you certainly aren’t a doctor, or much of a thinker. The guy doesn’t have a rod in his back. It was corrective surgery. You don’t see how this type of “disease” can be healed in a year? Well I don’t see how someone who doesn’t know the difference between running for Governor and Lt. Governor could possibly get on a political blog and discuss the perceived shortcomings of a candidate based on a “Wikipeduia” article… that seems even a little less reliable than Wikipedia.

      • Lady Thinker says:

        Well, I can see you totally misread what I wrote so let me educate you.

        1) I never said Cagle had a rod in his back, I said my friend has one;
        2) I based my comment on problems my friends have had with the same, as given in the media, or similar diagnosis as Cagle is said to have had;
        3) Cagle is a sitting Lieutenant Governor and has an opponent, so he still has to campaign to keep his seat, which isn’t much different than running for a gubernatorial seat but in Casey’s case, would be easier for him because of his name recognition;
        4) I used the Wikipedia reference because the same health comment has been used in the news media and the Wikipedia comment was more concise;
        5) I have four college degrees, with a bachelor’s and a master’s in Political Science so your attack is unfounded,
        6) I teach at a local college,
        7) What is your background?

        Maybe you should consider a reading comprehension course.

  9. BuckheadConservative says:

    Good to know he’s getting himself in shape. I think his race against Carol Porter is going to be pretty tough.

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