Special Election Open Thread/ Now With Election Results

Following up on Jason’s post, what are you folks seeing and hearing in the 9th CD and other special elections with only a few hours until the polls close?

Consider this an Open Thread.

UPDATE: The SoS has the data.

Graves leads with 12% reporting at 8:00 PM, while Truett Moss leads in the race to replace Graves.

8:25 It looks like Hall County is starting to come in. Graves leads, Tarvin 2nd, and Hawkins jumps up to 3rd with 27% reporting. Moss still leads in HD 12, Carter has a big lead in SD 42, and Miller has an early lead in SD 49.

UPDATE BY ICARUS at 9:09, with 74% of the votes counted, I’m going to call GA-9 as a runoff between Graves and Hawkins. While Tarvin only trails Hawkins by 26 votes, 80% of Hall is yet to be counted, with the early votes strong for Hawkins and Graves second. Tarvin’s total will surprise a lot of folks, but not many who were paying attention in NW GA. But the next few weeks will belong to Graves and Hawkins.

Update by Icarus at 9:26, All of Hall County is in, and as expected, Hawkins has put distance between himself and Tarvin, but still trails Graves 34 to 23%. Watch the scramble begin for endorsements begin immediately, with Tarvin being King for a day, and Jeff Mullis looking at some very uncomfortable vote totals for the guy he endorsed in the counties he represents.

109 comments

  1. Chris says:

    Best I can tell, we now have a nuclear power, run by an unelected despot, with no civil government.

  2. John Konop says:

    What I find interesting is it seems more like an anti-incumbent mood than any party. That is why the GOP is going to still pick-up seats from being in the minority, but I do think it will be a very interesting election. Who would have thought the Governors’ office in Georgia would be in play a few years ago? And will the Tea Party movement help or hurt the GOP?

    Republican Advantage in 2010 Voting Enthusiasm Shrinks
    Registered voters remain divided in congressional voting preferences

    registered voters’ enthusiasm about voting in this year’s midterm elections has declined significantly in recent weeks. As a result, Republicans’ advantage over Democrats on this measure has shrunk from 19 points in early April to 10 points in the latest weekly aggregate.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/127700/Republican-Advantage-2010-Voting-Enthusiasm-Shrinks.aspx#1

    • benevolus says:

      I think a lot of people desperately want to be angry at something. Between unemployment, stagnant wages, ongoing war, baggage fees, and poisonous lettuce, there’s a lot to be angry about. But when it comes to electoral politics, eventually you have to pick a candidate, and that’s where the enthusiasm starts to wane. 🙁

      • John Konop says:

        FYI

        A very good read!!!!

        …..Rep. Alan Mollohan, a 14-term incumbent, has been defeated by state Sen. Mike Oliverio in West Virginia’s Democratic primary, according to the Associated Press.

        With 97 percent of the vote in, Oliverio led Mollohan 56 percent to 44 percent.

        Mollohan’s decisive loss – a stunning rebuke for a veteran appropriator who has held his seat for nearly three decades – comes just days after Sen. Bob Bennett (R-Utah) lost his bid for renomination. Mollohan, the son of a congressman, had typically coasted in his re-election bids. ……

        Read more:

        http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37113.html#ixzz0niMPjDKm

  3. Technocrat says:

    “Kipper Tool Co., Gainesville, Ga., was awarded on May 3 a $13,402,000 firm-fixed-price contract for 64 standard automotive tools sets. This is a current contract to place a delivery order for an additional 64. Work is to be performed in Gainesville, Ga., with an estimated completion date of March 31, 2011.

    One bid was solicited with one bid received. ”

    …………………Thanks Nathan…..we’ll miss you but I’m sure the next guy can do as well. Given the correct and frequent motivation.

  4. HankRearden says:

    Bids are all public. If only one person applies to do the work they will get it. Why would you accuse Nathan Deal of doing anything wrong?? Nathan has given more years to this country than most of the children reading this. A little respect would go along way.

    • AlanR says:

      Be careful what you wish for Tech — we’re lucky the contract is in Gainesville. If there are no responsive bids, the contract will wind up in Michigan or China.

    • Henry Waxman says:

      Thanks for voting. I spent my afternoon at the RNC encouraging people to vote in PA-12 on the 18th.

  5. Technocrat says:

    I am not accusing Nathan of anything just doing his expected job as a congressperson, to advocate for his constituents. Which in many cases he seems to have done well.
    I’ll let those in the Federal government police and investigate Federal bidding procurement activities.
    Amazing how so many call for Federal Investigations of this and that until they hit close to home or their candidates.

    “09/15/2009
    Kipper Tool Company Gainesville, Ga., won $30,298,500 federal contract by the U.S. Army TACOM Rock Island, Rock Island, Ill., for seven units of the Stryker Special Tools Set System.”
    “09/18/2009
    Kipper Tool Company was awarded a $18,672,060 federal contract by the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command, Rock Island, Ill., for two Stryker special tools set system” ADDITIONAL.

    Actually I’m kinda proud [my birth town] of a Gainesville Woman Owned business doing 100 million per year. Shows what’s possible with Nathan on yourside.

    • ByteMe says:

      Yet another reason I think that Congress needs to get their hands off the DoD procurement process. If a boondoggle project didn’t have Congressional sponsors, it might be easier to get rid of it.

    • Henry Waxman says:

      Yeah, and Congressman Deal forcing millions of Americans to eat at Chick-fil-A so all of those North Georgia poultry farmers can get rich by selling chicken.

      Maybe, just maybe, Kipper Tool sells a product that people want to buy…

  6. Romegaguy says:

    THIS JUST IN … OXENDINE JUST TWEETED HIS CONGRATULATIONS TO NATHAN DEAL FOR WINNING RE-ELECTION TO THE NINTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT

  7. Icarus says:

    I’ve said all along the county to watch is Forsyth. Hawkin’s supporters have claimed/assumed it for themselves all along. Graves folks have been fairly confident that they will hold their own there.

    I would imagine that most of the votes from the West side of the district will come back to Graves in a runoff.

    If the early votes in Forsyth hold county wide, Graves has the most direct path to victory.

  8. Pine Knot says:

    I’m surprised Tarvin is doing so well. I thought Graves and Hawkins would be a little higher so far. Union reported nearly first, and Cates was leading for a bit. No surprise.

  9. debbie0040 says:

    No one should be the least bit surprised about Tarvin’s totals. He is well known in the Chicamauga area and in NW Georgia. He is a businessman and well liked.

    • tocallaghan says:

      So true. I thought his campaign was a joke until I met the man. Great guy, he just doesn’t compare to Tom.

      • debbie0040 says:

        If Tom had not been in the race, Tarvin would have been the guy I would have supported..

  10. Gary Cooper says:

    A great showing by Tarvin tonight. Definitely something to build on as the primary moves on.

  11. Doug Grammer says:

    Congrats to all who ran, especially Tom and Lee. Don’t count out Tarvin (or Cates) just yet. There’s another election in July. If Tom and Lee beat each other up, who knows what may happen?

  12. birdfan says:

    With 10 % left to report, you need to look at the County breakdown. The County left to report is Forsyth and Graves is winning it about 2-1 over Hawkins.

    I believe Graves will continue to keep this advantage. If so, then he may end up close to 40%. With this many candidates in the race, it is a very strong showing by Graves. When you see that he beat Hawkins in every other county except Hall, then it looks very good for an eventual Congressman Graves.

  13. $500,000 of out-of-state special interest money couldn’t put Tom Graves over the top tonight.

    Looks like North Georgians rejected all that out-of-state special interest money.

    Only 1/3rd of the vote after nearly a million dollars of combined funds?

    I think there’s a pretty worried man in Georgia tonight.

    Congrats to Lee Hawkins!

    • Pine Knot says:

      ………and the negative campaign continues….Corgrats to Tom Graves who finished on top, and didn’t resort to the negative campaign as some of his opponents did!! Good luck to all in the runoff!

      • Lessons to be learned…. If you’re going to put out a hit piece you had better be accurate… Congratulations Tom Graves for a solid finish. With as many people in that race and the divide of the district you held strong. Tom is solidly the favorite for the runoff.

        Georgia really makes running for office enormously hard. Most states allow for a simple majority of the vote. Maybe making it difficult is good, who knows.

        Graves is an honorable human being and will represent the district well. GO TOM!

          • Misleading is not accurate. Tom Graves is not Glen Richardson. Clicking your heals a dozen times saying your strategy screwed your man won’t make it go away. In fact, you just may have created a significant backlash. Heck, now folks (who don’t even live in the district) are talking about what a scumbag nastygram was delivered on a good guy. Certainly not valuable PR for Hawkins.

            • Joshua Morris says:

              Call it what you want–it is true. That’s more than can be said for the information coming out of the Graves campaign and his Washington special interest friends. Why don’t you talk about the information presented rather than the source of it?

              • GOPGrassroots says:

                It was negative, it was inaccurate and it was in poor taste.

                I fully expect more of the same, seems like all they know how to do over at Team Hawkins – mislead, attack, attack some more.

                • Lady Thinker says:

                  Forsyth County Code Enforcement was removing Hawkins signs from the grassy median on Ronald Reagan Parkway today around 1:45 pm. If the Hawkins camp can’t follow simple rules about election sign placement, one could reason he would take similar shortcuts in office. The only other illegal sign placements I have seen are those of McBerry placed on intersection right-of-ways. Those got pulled also.

    • I Am Jacks Post says:

      Actually, Mark, it looks like the voters exercised sound JUDGEMENT (hah, hah–jokes on your pedestrian spelling skills) and rejected your sh*tty MS Paint mail.

      There’s a reason they say hiring Rountree is like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

    • I Am Jacks Post says:

      Actually, the only “worried man in Georgia tonight” is Mark Rountree, because this was his first–and likely, last–bite at a federal race. After tonight it’s back to Joe Blow for School Board.

    • Chris says:

      And all that sucking up to Joe Biden didn’t do Hawkins a bit of good either.

      You’re smarter than that Mark – with so many candidates in the race there was zero chance that a billion dollars would put Graves over the top.

  14. I Am Jacks Post says:

    Graves beat Hawkins in every county but one–Hall–Hawkins’s home county.

    Oh yeah, the runoff is looking really promising for Hawkins.

  15. birdfan says:

    Rountree:
    Graves won 11 out of the 15 counties. The other 4 counties (2 won by Tarvin, 1 by Cates, 1 by Hawkins) Graves came in 2nd. Your guy won only 1 out of 15 counties.

    I’m sorry, but it doesn’t look very promising in a run-off for Hawkins to win in other counties when the guy you’re in a run-off with….already beat you tonight in those same counties.

  16. debbie0040 says:

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GEORGIA_CONGRESS_GAOL-?SITE=GAGAI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    Hawkins complaining about special interest money coming in from out of state for Graves. Not surprised that Hawkins would attack conservative groups for supporting a conservative in the primary and not him. Hawkins is not a conservative.

    Pretty funny. Didn’t hear complaints when that happened with the Scott Brown race. This race attracted national interest because of the make up of Congress and the fact we need strong conservatives representing us-not wishy, washy pseudo conservatives…

    • Joshua Morris says:

      Too bad these so-called “conservative groups” don’t base their endorsements on actual conservative principles. Looks like Washington has tainted them, too.

      Lee Hawkins is the most qualified, honest, supply side conservative in this race.

      Principles matter, and smoke and mirrors legislation doesn’t cut it.

      • GOPGrassroots says:

        If this is the case, why doesn’t your campaign talk about your own guy instead of slinging mud at everything Graves related?

        Geeze.

        • Joshua Morris says:

          We’re talking about Lee Hawkins–don’t you worry. 32 years in business with no lawsuits means something.

          I believe that the 9th District needs to know about the business dealings of the men who want to represent them. Would it be best to hear about Graves’ business deficiencies now or later in the newspaper? There’s nothing wrong with exposing someone’s record, and everything the Hawkins team exposed has been proven accurate.

          • GOPGrassroots says:

            You still continue to ignore my questions about your latest attack piece saying Graves’ campaign is run by a D.C. based lobbying firm…is that the truth or an outright lie Josh?

            This is a simple question that you keep refusing to answer.

            • Joshua Morris says:

              Show me the piece, Grass. And why don’t you like to discuss why Graves can’t run his businesses above board?

    • McDawg81 says:

      Don’t care if he rips baseball – Braves deserve it! But stay away from my Mom and my pie!! I can’t believe we have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to go RINO chasing again! Lee must be delirious this morning. Spent his time and money in Forsyth and Hall and (baseball metaphor coming) wound up batting .500. A rational man in Lee’s position looks at last night’s results and sees no path to victory. Know what that means? Put on the raingear, here comes the mud!!!

  17. Kellie says:

    Hawkins and his team will show their true colors in the run-off. If you think he was negative before, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

    • macho says:

      I hope the idiots keeps bashing a businessman for getting sued. That’s an issue that’s really going to get folks fired up – ya right.

      It just reminds folks that Tom is the entrepreneur in the race and how difficult it is to run a business in today’s legal environment.

      • NorthGeorgiaGirl says:

        People getting sued in their businesses is pretty much part of the cost of doing business, isn’t it? After all, large corporations have entire legal departments to handle claims, most of which have no merit. My neighbor has a few rental properties and has been sued a few times; he usually wins, but he is used to it. People will find any angle to sue someone they think they can get a settlement out of.

        Try again, Hawkins, obviously it didn’t stick.

        • Joshua Morris says:

          Funny. Being sued isn’t part of Hawkins’ “cost of doing business”. He’s kept his business dealings clean and honest for nearly as long as Tom has been alive.

          And by the way, unlike your neighbor, Tom lost in court.

          • Doug Grammer says:

            Josh,

            You can keep your business dealings clean and honest and still be sued. The jury can even get it wrong and award a judgment against you. I have seen it happen with other people that I know. Without more details, I consider this an irrelevant issue and I think it hurts Sen. Hawkins more than it helps him. However, I could be wrong. They may be on the right track, if this is the best card left.

            The Club for Growth ad was NOT fair to Sen. Hawkins at all, but I’m not sure if it was replied to in the best way. I might have pounded that it was a 527 from DC telling voters in Georgia what to do. The independent nature of North Georgian’s might have responded with voting for Sen. Hawkins in spite (or because) of the ads.

            If I were managing the Sen. Hawkins campaign, I would try to focus on why Sen. Hawkins can get more done for us in DC than Rep. Graves, or how they differ on issues.

            • Joshua Morris says:

              I disagree with you. When you get sued for non-payment of a debt and lose, there is a problem. It might be something that happens to some people regularly, but it’s not the type of above-board behavior we should accept from our next congressman. Not closing businesses correctly through the secretary of state may be a regular practice for some people, but it should not be for someone who expects the people of the 9th District to trust him to do what’s right in Washington.

              Regarding the CFG ad, why do you think Tarvin did so well in this race? Just something to think about.

              I’m tired of saying it, but I’ll say it again–we’ve been talking about Dr. Hawkins for months and have been repeatedly attacked with lies and misrepresentations. We only focused on the opponent for about a week. Now everyone wants to advise us on how we should focus on Hawkins’ record. We’ve put his record out there, and we will continue to. I’m just disgusted at the dishonesty coming from the Graves folks–that’s not fair to the People and it’s just not right. Character matters.

              • Doug Grammer says:

                Josh,

                We do disagree and I have sent you an e-mail explaining why. I don’t want my reply on PP to impact the outcome of this race, so I would appreciate it if you kept my response between us.

              • John Konop says:

                Joshua Morris,

                I got no dog in this fight but you understanding of day to day business are naive at best. Disputes happen all the time in business over bills. The job of an executive is to represent the best interest of stockholders end of story. This is same ridiculous claim about complaining about a lawyer representing a client you do not agree with. The job of the lawyer is to represent a client not play judge and jury.

                I have had numerous conversations off-line about this election from friends reading the PP. And all of us concluded this race at least what has been on the PP has very little focus on real issues.

                The above is another classic example of a non-issue argument. We are facing major issues Afghanistan, Iraq, Medicare, immigration, unemployment…… Can you not focus on real issues?

                • Joshua Morris says:

                  The problem with that, John, is that there would be very little difference in each campaign’s stand. This is why the Graves folks have been falsely attacking Hawkins with claims that he was a lib’ral since he entered the race. They’re lying, and they know it. All of a sudden, when Hawkins stands up and uncovers a little unsavory truth on Graves, everyone’s head explodes and they say his whole campaign has been “negative”, which is another lie.

                  What sets Lee apart is his healthcare experience and his long term, clean business experience. He also didn’t wait until year 7 under the dome to start working on the issues that matter.

                • benevolus says:

                  “The job of an executive is to represent the best interest of stockholders end of story”.

                  I disagree with that, but perhaps a discussion for a different day, different thread.

      • Problem is, a nastygram is not an effective tool on a person who has track record like Graves and has a strong likeability factor. It was an obvious Hail Mary showing of desparation.

    • McDawg81 says:

      “And then she looked at me with them big brown eyes
      And said, You ain’t seen nothin’ yet” Methinks Ms. Kellie is a prophetess!! This will be ugly!

  18. Nathan says:

    Alright, my two cents: the special election landed pretty much the way I expected in terms of ranking. We had roughly 9% voter turnout in Walker County with Tarvin getting about 55% of the vote. No surprise there since he’s the hometown man. Depending on the voter turnout, hopefully larger than the special election, I suspect July to become very competitive. Be sure to don your flack jackets…it could get ugly.

  19. B Balz says:

    Oh goody, pol ops feeding on each other! Popcorn.

    The voting public sidesteps vile and anonymous ‘hit pieces’, in spite of the ‘slander law’ that allows them. [Pol ops actually have a name for such tripe] Jason Carter won in spite of the vile ‘*hit’ piece launched against him.

    I say pol ops should be regulated, overseen, and forced into transparency. Heck, the State already licenses barbers, so precedent is set for regulating clip jobs. Often, the ‘cowboy’ [no offense to cowboys] tactics pol ops use are corrosive to the political process.

  20. John Konop says:

    This will be a major issue in the general. First school czar Kathy Cox should have froze all travel and expenses and minimally cut back her staff to the bare bones. Second the local school distracts should of rolled back Administrative pay by 20% as well as eliminate 20% of them. Also we should have implemented fuel fess per student and raised prices on lunches and products sold at school. And than if needed we cut teachers who actually do the work! We need real leadership now!

    ….Allatoona High School parents in Cobb are upset over the mass firings of more than a dozen teachers, including the head coaches of the school’s football, basketball, baseball and soccer teams. But word is spreading that the firings are deep and deadly in other Cobb schools as well.

    School board members in Cobb approved the elimination of 734 positions as part of a solution to close a $137 million budget deficit. The cuts include 579 teaching and 56 paraprofessional positions, as well as 68 central office and support positions.

    There is no way that such extensive cuts won’t be felt by students. And this week we are seeing the results.

    It appears we are going to stripped-down schools in Georgia that only offer the basics, which some people applaud, believing that parents ought to be the ones to find and underwrite sports programs and debate teams for their kids….

    http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2010/05/12/the-axe-falls-in-cobb-where-teacher-firings-stun-parents-are-we-moving-to-bare-bones-schools/

    • Lady Thinker says:

      Kathy Cox dropped the ball on this one as did administrators in the university, college, technical colleges systems by not cutting the fat and items on a wish list. Other government and private businesses have made the same decisions, cut employees to balance the budget rather than everyone take a paycut to keep everyone employed.

      The teacher cuts may help balance the school budget but what happens to the people cut? They start having financial problems, maybe go through the bankruptcy process and foreclosure. Their credit is shot and when applying for jobs they become less employable because of poor credit scores.

      I feel this is a casuality that those doing the cutting either don’t consider or don’t care about in the overall scheme of things. The people cut get tax dollars in unemployment until it runs out, health care, and maybe food stamps as personal bills mount, judgements (or judgments) are decided against the unemployed or underemployed, educational loans are defaulted, and the problems spiral to the point that some people become homeless.

      While I realize this isn’t the path that every unemployed person takes, a growing number of people are on this train wreck of collateral damage.

      What do you think is the best way to find solutions to this problem?

      • John Konop says:

        The system needs to do a core essential ranking system when doing a budget. And look at areas they can increase revenue and or save money via efficiencies.

        For Example:

        Teachers should be ranked higher than administration.

        Teaching tools ie books… ranked higher than state mandated testing

        Cross utilization of buildings ie higher education taught in high schools at night, leasing out fields and gyms when not used, increase lunch fees, fuel fees….

        I will say Karen Handel seems to have a real grasp of the problem and solutions. She has made it clear that breaking down the walls between agencies is the key.

        • Lady Thinker says:

          Continuing education courses and adult education courses is another option in which people could learn something about a subject without getting a degree, taught by community professionals. Some topics could be Powder Puff Mechanics for teen-agers who will be getting or already have a drivers’ license with lessons on how to change a tire or use battery cables or replace windshield wipers; or how to use Microsoft Word, or Access or Excel or Powerpoints. Determine a unit price, give 20%-25% to the professional teaching the course for educational materials and the 75%-80% to the school or college offering the course. Just a thought.

                  • Lady Thinker says:

                    John & Bowersville,

                    Are either of you aware of any statistics measuring academic scores both before and after NCLB to determine feasibility of the federal program? This information must be somewhere to show the failure rate since NCLB came on the scene.

                    I wonder if the university/college/technical colleges systems have records showing the number of students needing remedial classes in the three “r’s” per state.

                    I would hope if these records were found and published, that parents would demand changes if not the elimination of NCLB.

                • Lady Thinker says:

                  Not only the pressure of teaching the test but also on neglecting to teach the basics. Do you think if students had a firm grasp on the basics, the testing would take care of itself? I think the erasure scandal speaks volumes about this issue and the failure of NCLB.

                    • Lady Thinker says:

                      John,

                      OMG, the first paragraph of this report says it all. Here it is for others to see.

                      Despite billions of dollars spent on a test-and-punish approach to school “reform,” today’s National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) report provides more evidence that the federal No Child Left Behind Law (NCLB) is a failure.

                      Our poor kids and poor us! To have paid all that money only to go backwards in education.

                    • John Konop says:

                      The problem with the system is even if Kathy Cox looses the election, she will end up making BIG BUCKS lobbying tax dollars for another failed gimmick idea. If we just focused on the basics cut out the “lobbyist money changers” idea of the day paid by tax payers we would see improvement!

                    • B Balz says:

                      You can sum up my entire theory on public schooling in one sentence:

                      Smart parents have smart kids.

                      They teach their kids that it is important to do well in school. They are involved, actively, in their education.

                      Not so much genes at play, though it helps. Public schools must take all comers and that is where teaching even the basics gets sidetracked.

                      NCLB, like any good gov’t program, started out with good intentions.

                    • Lady Thinker says:

                      BB,

                      It is true that smart parents have smart kids because smart parents realize the value of education. I just wish all parents did so that Georgia could get out of the bottom five educational statistics.

  21. Doug Grammer says:

    From Bill Stephens

    I just want to take a moment to thank those of you who offered so much encouragement and support during the congressional campaign. The lifelong friendships that are made along the way are the best part of the electoral process and I feel truly blessed.

    I am going to withdraw from the July Primary and I am not going to endorse anyone. Both Tom and Lee are good men whom I respect. For that matter, I have to say I came to like and respect each of the other candidates as well. They are all good people with the right priorities and true patriots who love their state and country.

    I am proud that we ran a positive campaign and had not an ill word to say about anyone along the way.

    I look forward to seeing you soon.

    God Bless you and God Bless the United States of America,

    Bill

  22. drdjm says:

    Very classy, indeed.
    Senator Stephens has always been my #2 in the race and I strongly supported him in his last run for State-wide office. I sincerely hope he takes another run for office at some point.

  23. Lady Thinker says:

    I wonder why local governments haven’t targeted apartment dwellers for school taxes. I realize residency changes are not stable but shouldn’t this burden be shared by all and not just homeowners?

    Children live in apartments too and go to schools. Property taxes are based on home values so I don’t know how to do evaluations on apartment dwellers but I am sure someone on here has an idea. This step could bring more money into budgets and keep teachers employed so that our educational system isn’t further threatened.

    • B Balz says:

      Every property owner pays both local and school board taxes.

      Apartment complexes pay a huge tax bill because they are physically large properties, that are usually highly valued.

      The question that LT is driving at, I believe, is are the taxes proportionate to the cost of educating the children in apartments?

      I have heard anecdotal arguments suggesting that some apartment complexes are their own school bus stop. I have also heard that the average single family home has more children attending school. Logically, one doesn’t not usually aspire to have kids and move to a nice apartment.

      This problem, and some ‘inside baseball’ commentary may be found at this respectable blog:

      http://dekalbschoolwatch.blogspot.com/

      This is a wedge issue that is sure to sell and a suburban Hot Potato of the First Order.

  24. B Balz says:

    So the good folks over at Georgia BIO, in an effort to highlight a UGA achievement TWENTY years in the making are offering a gubernatorial forum for both the Dems and GOP — But there is only ONE GOP Governor hopeful who has made plans to attend:

    Rep. Nathan Deal!

    Georgia BIO asks that we gently remind those candidates who have not made plans to do so ASAP!!!

    Hat Tip to Mr. [email protected], whose articles are linked below.

    UGA declares “A seminal discovery in animal and human biology,” says Scott Angle, dean of the College of Agriculture and Environmental Sciences.

    The article, catchy title “13 hand crafted pigs”, calls attention to huge benefits to those with diabetes, Multiple Sclerosis, and many other diseases.

    http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/05/12/of-13-handcrafted-pigs-and-the-governors-race/

    Here is the scoop on the Kennesaw State University Forums:

    http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/05/10/the-jolt-is-back-candidates-for-governor-duck-talk-about-science-and-jobs/

    The jolt is back: Candidates for governor duck talk about science and jobs

    10:16 am May 10, 2010, by Jim Galloway

    Last month, Georgia Bio invited Democratic and Republican candidates for governor to a pair of forums, where they could express their views on science and economic development before an assembly of the state’s scientists, academics and CEOs of bioresearch companies.

    The consortium of research and business interests scheduled two dates at Kennesaw State University: May 20 for Democrats, and May 27 for Republicans.

    The stampede of candidates has been less than thunderous.

    On the Democratic side, only three have agreed to attend: Attorney General Thurbert Baker, who last week declared biotech to be an essential part of his jobs program; former National Guard commander David Poythress; and Ray City Mayor Carl Camon.

    House Democratic Leader DuBose Porter and former Gov. Roy Barnes have yet to commit, even though the KSU event is in Barnes’ backyard.

    Response from the GOP side has been even weaker. Only former congressman Nathan Deal has agreed to appear.

    Charlie Craig, president of Georgia Bio, says the state’s top technical brains want to know what the men and woman who would be governor think about education, health care reform, economic development and its connection to the life sciences.

    “Candidates who are not participating are telling us that these aren’t priorities for them,” Craig said.

    But don’t fool yourself. Especially on the Republican side, the reluctance is about the restrictions many of the candidates have advocated for such things as embryonic stem cell research – which researchers say has sent a chill down the spines of industry recruiters.

    THANK YOU JIM! As a pragmatic GOP voter I appreciate both articles immensely.

      • B Balz says:

        Awwwwwcomeonnow, Byte!

        I make a marvelous argument against the irrationality of those who wish to see embryonic stem cell research made illegal, and you focus on pragmatic GOP? Where’s the love?

        • ByteMe says:

          Just pointing out that you might want to be armed to the teeth before the crazy part of the political spectrum finds out where you live.

          • B Balz says:

            “They” already know, Byte. Anonymity is overrated in the ‘net, as I am sure you’ll agree. I made it through other politically unpopular adventures on the ‘net. “Ain’t skeert” of taking a stand on making embryonic stem cell research illegal.

            My range accuracy is a factor. Plus, my yard is graced with an old white tire with a petunia in it, right next to the Ford on cinder blocks.

            Who could not love me for that?

    • B Balz says:

      ATLANTA (May 18, 2010) – Georgia Bio late Monday decided to cancel Democratic and Republican gubernatorial forums at Kennesaw State University based on a lack of interest among most of the primary candidates to attend and discuss life sciences related issues.

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