Your “They Exist” Open thread

April 19, 2010 18:20 pm

by Chris · 88 comments

Courtesy of Jim Galloway, who probably has to put up with more of this than all of us at PP combined:

“Ma’am, did you say you have a microchip?” asked state Rep. Tom Weldon (R-Ringgold).

“Yes, I do. This microchip was put in my vaginal-rectum area,” she replied. Setzler, the sponsoring lawmaker, sat next to the witness – his head bowed.

“You’re saying this was involuntary?” Weldon continued.

The woman said she had been pushing a court case through the system for the last eight years to have the device removed.

Wendell Willard (R-Atlanta), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, picked up the questioning.

“Who implanted this in you?” he asked.

“Researchers with the federal government,” she said.

“And who in the federal government implanted it?” Willard asked.

“The Department of Defense.”

“Thank you, ma’am.”

In other news, Promiscuous women cause earthquakes, and bank failures trigger volcanoes.

Consider this your conspiracy related open thread.

Chris April 19, 2010 at 6:25 pm

I’m starting a PAC to vote out the freaks who sponsor a study committee on this.

Kyle Constable April 19, 2010 at 6:32 pm

+10

B Balz April 19, 2010 at 9:42 pm

I done tole y’all this started in Four and Nine when dey begun
a’messin’ with dem ole atoms. Den da weather got all messed up afta’r they landed on da Moon, ain’ I even a’gonna talk ’bout no Ken’dys or nun dat…Nope, y’all jes a’doane believe nun of it.

Kyle Constable April 19, 2010 at 6:34 pm

Random news: my blog is back! KyleConstable.com has been fully reconverted into a political blogging site. It went down last year when Oxendine’s staffers decided that they wanted to let me know that a kid’s opinion in politics doesn’t matter, even when the rest of the blogosphere agrees with what that kid is saying. A variety of things ensued after that point, leading me to shut it down. But we’re back!

http://kyleconstable.com/

Game Fan April 19, 2010 at 6:36 pm

Just for the record, Game Fan is opposed to implants, microchips, bigfoots, vampires, animal/human hybrids, toll roads, giving too much power to robots, and a whole litany of other evils too.

Kellie April 19, 2010 at 6:43 pm

implants? You might want to leave that one off your list. lol

Game Fan April 19, 2010 at 6:57 pm

Yeah, “implants, microchips” should read “microchip implants”. I have no problem with breast augmentation (for women) especially the newer, more realistic type.

kyleinatl April 20, 2010 at 12:40 pm

Oh my…

chefdavid April 19, 2010 at 6:55 pm

You can avoid bigfoot by staying out of the following counties:
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/state_listing.asp?state=ga#map

As for the what the cleric said today I believe it. Look what kind of earthquake it has caused under the dome.

Game Fan April 19, 2010 at 7:00 pm

Are you sure that’s not a map of John Oxendine supporters?

Game Fan April 19, 2010 at 6:45 pm

“Yes, I do. This microchip was put in my vaginal-rectum area,” she replied. Setzler, the sponsoring lawmaker, sat next to the witness – his head bowed.

It sounds to me like the area this woman is referring to is the “taint”.

(‘taint the —- and it ‘taint the —— either.)

macho April 19, 2010 at 6:56 pm

This was probably the happiest day in this lady’s life. Her friends and family have probably all been calling her crazy, but now she’s been vindicated. She can go back home and tell those fools that the GA Legislature has taken up her cause against the Federal Government.

Romegaguy April 19, 2010 at 9:06 pm

I think we now know where GOPeach was today

macho April 19, 2010 at 9:10 pm

LOL

Romegaguy April 19, 2010 at 9:26 pm

if we could have had video of Spacey in drag singing Toby Keith songs, Congressman Broun might have been able to be sworn in

rugby April 20, 2010 at 7:46 am

And had a successful NY-23.

Romegaguy April 22, 2010 at 9:54 am

it wasnt a success?

fishtail April 19, 2010 at 7:24 pm

I’ll bet Glenn Richardson or Mark Burkhalter or Mark Butler would be glad to search her nether regions for the implant at no charge. Maybe Balfour could assist.

Mozart April 20, 2010 at 12:01 am

Ick?

Game Fan April 21, 2010 at 1:23 pm
macho April 19, 2010 at 6:45 pm

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Though Barnes had a funny line from the AJC article:

In Gov. Roy Barnes’ stump speech, the bill has become a routine example of the Republican tendency to attack problems that don’t exist, and ignore the ones that do. Besides, Barnes argues, if someone holds him down to insert a microchip in his head, “it should be more than a damned misdemeanor.”

macho April 19, 2010 at 6:53 pm

I think if Obamacare is Constitutional, then surely the Federal government’s right to insert microchips into people is Constitutional as well. This bill should fail due to mootness.

Ambernappe April 20, 2010 at 9:32 am

So far, I have three fully saturated Kleenex from the “laughter tears”, and my vision is affected…………

Game Fan April 19, 2010 at 6:54 pm

But seriously, I’m sure they catch some flack for some of these laws but what’s the harm in passing laws against some of the more freakish things we see in Science Fiction movies? You know, for the children.

macho April 19, 2010 at 6:58 pm

I think there is a good chance this could end up on Jon Stewart or Drudge Report.

Harry April 19, 2010 at 7:09 pm

or Huffington.

On a related matter, my mother-in-law was supposed to fly to Europe on tax day but was scratched. She gets another shot at it tomorrow. We’ll see.

Henry Waxman April 19, 2010 at 11:45 pm

+1

chefdavid April 19, 2010 at 7:07 pm

Please someone look this up on GLN when it becomes available and post it to youtube. It has got to be hilarious.

Game Fan April 19, 2010 at 7:13 pm

Saaay, this is where great ideas get started. Great way for fiscal conservatives to hijack the whole “for the children” concept. Of course the underground media would have to take the ball and run with it, in order to create a panic. Then, Republicans come to the rescue with a law. Of course, these days Republicans are as bad as Democrats for creating new agencies and expensive new programs. A few additional laws just doesn’t work in politics. There’s no money in it.

B Balz April 19, 2010 at 9:46 pm

A Law, dagnabbit. That’e exactly what we need. A Law.

macho April 19, 2010 at 7:34 pm

Maybe the Legislature should revisit the budget cuts to mental healthcare.

Mozart April 20, 2010 at 12:04 am

Maybe the Legislature should visit their own lobotomist for a sound scrambling. Surely, we cannot do any worse, right?

Jason Pye April 19, 2010 at 8:26 pm

I just watched the video of her testimony to the committee.

Oh.My.God.

http://media.legis.ga.gov/hav/09_10/2010/committees/judi/judi041310EDITED.wmv

43 minutes in.

Mozart April 20, 2010 at 12:05 am

Actually, this does sound like something a Libertarian would be interested in preventing.

David Staples April 20, 2010 at 9:50 am

This Libertarian believes there are more important issues than preventing the implant of microchips. Now, one could also argue that implanting microchips against someone’s will was probably already illegal under some other law. I don’t have the time to track down the specific law that it would fall under. But I suppose we probably need to outlaw double parking for alien space ships, forced implantation of pig brains into humans, forced implantation of a pair of scissors into humans and other types of things. After all, we do want to be thorough right?

Republican Lady April 20, 2010 at 8:12 pm

One could argue the issue under the Fourth Amendment right to privacy section but I agree, there are more important issues.

Melb April 20, 2010 at 12:14 am

OMG

I can’t believe our government has spent our tax dollars on THIS!!!!!!

John Konop April 19, 2010 at 8:34 pm

In simple terms the government had a blind eyed approach to lending risk with tax payers on the hook. This would be no different than approving drugs without a proper test. The government should regulate fraud against bogus valuations especially on government backed loans. If the government had done their job regulating rating agencies than the money would of dried up for the loans. Now tax payers are all left to clean up the mess! How many banks went under in Georgia in the last few years?

Greenspan:don’t blame crisis on mortgages for poor

G…..”Let me respectfully restate that, in my judgment, the origination of subprime mortgages — as opposed to the rise in global demand for securitized subprime mortgage interests –was not a significant cause of the financial crisis,” Greenspan said.
He repeated that geopolitical events including the fall of the Soviet Union and the rise of China helped boost the global workforce, pushing up growth and creating a global savings glut that drove down long-term interest rates.

Greenspan, who led the Fed from 1987 to 2006, conceded that regulators and others miscalculated the risks that were involved in a a buildup of U.S. housing prices in the 2000s.

“In the growing state of euphoria, managers of financial institutions, along with regulators including but not limited to the Federal Reserve, failed to comprehend the underlying size, length and potential impact” of market risks, he said.

Rating agencies that assigned risk ratings to securities underlying rising mortgages issuance “proved no more adept at anticipating the onset of crisis than the investment community at large,” Greenspan added.

He said a proliferation of securitized U.S. subprime mortgages was the “immediate trigger” of the crisis and said government-owned enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac helped drive that process.
Looking ahead, Greenspan recommended that U.S. banks be compelled to meet higher standards for risk-based capital and that collateral requirements be boosted for globally traded financial products, no matter what firm is trading them.

“If capital is adequate, by definition, no debt will default and serial contagion will be thwarted,” he said….
more

http://controlcongress.com/economics/greenspandont-blame-crisis-on-mortgages-for-poor

John Konop April 19, 2010 at 9:34 pm

Which side is the real Tea Party? Can the two groups get along?

Tea partiers in two camps: Sarah Palin vs. Ron Paul

Tea party activists are divided roughly into two camps, according to a new POLITICO/TargetPoint poll: one that’s libertarian-minded and largely indifferent to hot-button values issues and another that’s culturally conservative and equally concerned about social and fiscal issues.

Read more:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/35988.html#ixzz0lbHrVFlG

macho April 19, 2010 at 10:07 pm

Are you drunk or thread-jacking?

Jason Pye April 19, 2010 at 10:17 pm

It’s an open thread

Chris April 20, 2010 at 9:24 am

Only for conspiracy theories. The Federal Reserve doesn’t count.

It’s a conspiracy fact.

SFCWallace April 20, 2010 at 1:30 pm

What if Ron Paul implanted Sarah Palin with a microchip…? Then could he talk about it?

B Balz April 19, 2010 at 9:47 pm

They took my handle and then morphed it. Where’s Eddie Garland?

kdoc April 19, 2010 at 10:13 pm

You mean you don’t believe that lady? Why, that guvmint conspiracy has been public ever since Fox Mulder exposed the Cigarette Smoking Man.

Mozart April 20, 2010 at 12:07 am

Wonder how that actor is doing these days?

macho April 20, 2010 at 7:19 am

He’s now a US Senator.

Mozart April 20, 2010 at 10:10 am

So Mulder was right…he just couldn’t stop the conspiracy!

galiberal April 19, 2010 at 10:18 pm

She said it was the Department of Defense, but according to the X-Files, they are working with the Aliens. And we all know it is the Aliens that implant microchips!

saltycracker April 19, 2010 at 10:42 pm

threadjacking ?….BWI (blogging while influenced) ?….for sure:
“He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts.. . for support rather than illumination. ” – Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

For info on the real estate crisis & crash read:
“The Big Short” by Michael Lewis

For the intent of this thread: The Muslims blaming women who wear revealing clothing for causing earthquakes are wrong, some Southern Baptists have already “revealed” that they are caused by voodoo beliefs………

Progressive Dem April 19, 2010 at 10:43 pm

This is what the Legislature does with 4 days left? Which clowns are running the asylum this week? How embarassing.

btpull April 19, 2010 at 10:56 pm

Compliance with Federal Regulations and Rules cost 1.2T dollars last year.

http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/Wayne%20Crews%20-%20Ten%20Thousand%20Commandments%202010.pdf

Since 1995 approximately 60K new regulations or average of 4K per year have been added. Health Care Reform will add 1,000’s of additional rules and regulations over the next decade. This is one area of bi-partisanship in DC.

Chris April 20, 2010 at 9:27 am

What section of the Federal Register regulates the implantation if microchips in people’s nether regions?

Harry April 19, 2010 at 11:08 pm
ByteMe April 20, 2010 at 5:55 am

Jeez, Harry, you gotta stop reading those sites and thinking it’s 100% true. Try going to the source.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderUseofProjectLaborAgreementsforFederalConstructionProjects/

Sec. 5. This order does not require an executive agency to use a project labor agreement on any construction project, nor does it preclude the use of a project labor agreement in circumstances not covered by this order, including leasehold arrangements and projects receiving Federal financial assistance. This order also does not require contractors or subcontractors to enter into a project labor agreement with any particular labor organization.

btpull April 20, 2010 at 7:57 am

It does not require it, but the whole premise of the order is construction projects over $25M cannot be effectively managed without an overarching labor agreement for the project that every contractor and sub-contractor must adhere to.

The project labor agreement would obviously have to comply with the most restrictive union rules for those workers covered by collective bargaining agreements. It is a backdoor way to expand the unions’ powers over non-unionized employers/workers.

The whole premise that a project over $25M cannot be managed without an overall project labor agreement is BS.

ByteMe April 20, 2010 at 7:59 am

And you need to stop looking at those sites as well. Your brain will be better off in the end.

btpull April 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm

Its too bad Unions have to use the power government to win what they cannot in the marketplace.

ByteMe April 21, 2010 at 9:45 pm

And yet UPS loves having union labor and encouraged them from day 1 so that they would be able to have a large-scale stable workforce. But that doesn’t fit with your worldview, so I must be wrong.

Tyler April 20, 2010 at 12:12 am

Why from my hometown? Why?

Kellie April 20, 2010 at 8:46 am

Is there something you aren’t telling us Tyler?

ByteMe April 20, 2010 at 8:55 am

Check his…

Nope. Never mind. Not going there.

Tyler April 20, 2010 at 9:16 am

Continually devolving the threads Byte? You do great work. :)

ByteMe April 20, 2010 at 9:25 am

I said I wasn’t going there!!

:)

Mozart April 20, 2010 at 10:11 am

Barney Frank would. In a heartbeat!

Tyler April 20, 2010 at 9:13 am

Ok, never mind. The above snippet from the article made it sound like the woman was from Ringgold. But I read the article. She’s from Dick Williams’ favorite place…DeKalb County.

Ambernappe April 20, 2010 at 9:50 am

Is she the school exec who forgot that she was still married to her first (1) husband ? (The truth IS stranger than fiction).

Steve Perkins April 20, 2010 at 9:20 am

I’m still scratching my head as to why Jason Pye made an issue of this a month or two back. On most any issue, obviously there are nutters you can point at. On many issues, the mainstream point of view would consider Pye HIMSELF to be a nutter you can point at (although in all fairness he did recently splash a teacup of cold water on talk of violent revolution).

Is involuntary microchipping currently an active issue here in Georgia? No. If it were, then the bill barring it probably wouldn’t have passed. That’s pretty much my point. The Peach Pundit chatter at the time said to wait until it became an active issue, and ban it then. Except that once something becomes an active civil liberties issue, the Georgia legislature almost NEVER takes action to give up power. I was also unpersuaded by the argument that we could have gotten a Miracle Budget Cure if only lawmakers hadn’t lost that whopping 10 minutes.

This bill was the first time in my adult life that I can recall the Gold Dome proactively respecting ANY rights other than gun possession and the right to shift your tax burden onto lower socioeconomic classes. Therefore, be it active or speculative, serious risk or tin-foil hattery… mark me down as being in favor regardless.

I don’t get why the only two front-pagers who make hay over this are Pye and Chris Farris… the only two libertarian-ish posters. Something about that just seems wrong. I don’t know if they (consciously or subconsciously) must take an occasional swipe at a fringe issue to keep up their cred with the far-right guys. Or maybe with Andre gone and the utter dearth of opposing viewpoints on PP, maybe they genuinely have been assimilated by the echo chamber. So, there’s a crazy conspiracy topic for ya! :)

Mozart April 20, 2010 at 2:02 pm

Perkins is entirely too logical and sensible here. He must have already been implanted with a microchip.

Tyler April 20, 2010 at 2:04 pm

Nah, it’s the pot.

Kellie April 20, 2010 at 2:42 pm

bawaahahahaha!

Jason Pye April 20, 2010 at 5:20 pm

I didn’t write that post, Steve, a friend did.

Steve Perkins April 20, 2010 at 6:23 pm

Heh, sorry. It does tickle me though, that out of four paragraphs of stuff, the part you take issue with is being linked to a post OPPOSING political violence! :)

chefdavid April 20, 2010 at 12:42 pm
SFCWallace April 20, 2010 at 12:45 pm

I’d like to sponsor a ban on “State Sponsored Rendition to Alien Planets!” You think a microchip in your taint is bad…

ByteMe April 20, 2010 at 2:10 pm

Jay Bookman posits a good question: who’s crazier, the woman who claims this has already been done to her or the legislators who immediately thereafter overcame their obvious embarrassment and voted to make the crime a misdemeanor?

polisavvy April 20, 2010 at 3:06 pm

Now, that’s a tough one to answer, Byte. In my opinion, the legislators; but, that’s just my opinion. BTW, how have you been? How is the new business going?

ByteMe April 20, 2010 at 3:15 pm

Been well, thanks! Business is very busy. The new one is slow going, but the existing one that’s funding everything is ridiculously busy. Was gone for a few days to NYC for R&R… an excellent time was had by all. :)

How are you doing?

BTW, on the question of crazy, I also give the edge to the legislators.

polisavvy April 20, 2010 at 3:32 pm

Glad the businesses are doing well (even the slow one — they usually do start out that way). Also, happy you had some R&R. As for me, well, I’m just busy working in the yards (looking very nice, I might add). Plus, busy with the puppy — she’s a handful. BTW, my husband’s business is beginning to see a flicker of hope, so please keep your fingers crossed, okay? Glad you’re back, missed seeing your posts!

nast April 20, 2010 at 5:11 pm

So the news reports are coming out that the gunman who killed a hospital worker and himself in Knoxville yesterday held a grudge against a doctor who he suspected had, you guessed it, implanted a monitoring device against his will.

Hardly matters which is crazier, because both groups appear made for each other.

macho April 20, 2010 at 6:35 pm

It does seems strange, that implanting a microchip into a person’s brain, against their will, would only be a misdemeanor.

What is the punishment for stealing someone’s kidney?

Rep. Ed Setzler April 21, 2010 at 2:01 am

As you all might have guessed, the DeKalb County woman that testified in committee came to the Capitol on her own behalf and was not invited by any legislator. In the Wild West of the Georgia General Assembly a bill’s sponsor has no control of who from the public comes to speak on a bill. Will anyone join me in hoping that this woman gets the kind of help she needs…

ByteMe April 21, 2010 at 6:45 am

So Rep. Setzler, since you were there and voted on a bill after hearing someone speak on behalf of the bill whom you believe needs some help… did you vote for the bill to affirm that her implant was possibly real and yet only make whoever did this to her guilty of a misdemeanor?

Steve Perkins April 21, 2010 at 8:42 am

ByteMe… you’re smarter than this question.

ByteMe April 21, 2010 at 9:05 am

Why you think that?

Republican Lady April 21, 2010 at 9:48 am

So joined.

RuralDem April 23, 2010 at 10:20 am

http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/04/07/campaign-disclosure-mania/#comment-225130

So, ChuckEaton, are you satisfied now that Thurmond is not running for Labor Commissioner?

I guess since Irvin has not made an official public announcement about not running for re-election, we should definitely expect him to run again, right? I mean, it’s only been known for 4 years now that he’s not running.

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