Comments on: Podcast with Sam Olens, candidate for Attorney General

By: GOPGeorgia

GOPGeorgia — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:40:34 +0000

I’ve heard both Sam and Max say they would file against Obamacare. I’ve heard Sam say he would file to settle the border with TN. I’ve heard Max say he would file to settle the border with TN if he was convinced that there was a problem and a legal reason to do so. (disclaimer, paraphrasing, but that’s what I took from his answer.) Sam said “Yes,” Max said “Maybe.”

By: Doug Deal

Doug Deal — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:41:18 +0000

I think parts of those duties are enacted by statute and only 2-3 of them are in the constitution. The constitution empowers the legislature to create additional duties of the Ag.

By: Ronald Daniels

Ronald Daniels — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:09:13 +0000

I’m pretty sure what I stated the AG did is in fact the duties he is responsible for. I copied them from the AG’s website and I’m willing to bet they are nearly verbatim in the State Constitution. It is readily available information that anyone with an internet connection can access. Just Google “Georgia Attorney General” or “Georgia State Constitution”.

By: Ronald Daniels

Ronald Daniels — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:06:13 +0000

If you wish to be so cynical, I suppose we can say that.

But in this case it is simply not the case. How up to date are you on the selection of US Attorneys? I’m going to assume somewhere in the middle and not cover every finer detail, if I need to retrace my steps for you let me know.

The President appoints for a term of four years, then the Senate confirms the appointment. Generally Senators from the districts recommend attorneys, but that is not always the case. When the four years are up, they have to be let go or kept. They can also be removed, remember we had a national controversy after that. Generally you see massive turnover when the Whitehouse and DOJ switch parties.

I never said the qualification measuring rod was working for a campaign; that is a distortion. You asked how might one get appointed outside of butt kissing, I provided two alternative avenues. I don’t consider myself a blind follower of anyone, and I think my comments here speak pretty loudly. If Olens gets the primary win I will be voting for him. I presume you will be voting for Telihat or Hodges by your criteria of judging a person’s past accountability to an electorate, but that is a mere assumption so feel free to correct me.

I still take issue with you hem hawwing around the issue: substantiate your allegations. Are you saying Max did a bad job? Are you saying he kissed someone’s butt? I’m sure you can find evidence to back up your positions, so let’s see it. Win me over here, really. The floor is yours. But if you want to keep bickering and making allegations that you do not back up, then I’m afraid I will have to leave this dance Maestro. That does nothing but turn off potential voters for either Republican in this race.

By: TheSituation

TheSituation — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:13:58 +0000

He has raised a ton of money, but he isn’t rocking any boats since he is considered the front runner for the GOP. That’s why he was a little more coy about filing suit against Obamacare. He’s just coasting my friends.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:44:13 +0000

Maybe not, but nonetheless there is a manner in which it can be interpreted that follows the logic that if something is mentioned ahead of another, then those that created the document seemed to feel that the clause prior may hold more importance than that clause following. I think the drafters of the state constitution probably figured that a state AG would be standing before the state supreme court more often than they would before the SCOTUS, therefore that is why the placed the clause dealing with the state supreme court prior to the one dealing with the SCOTUS….but what do I know, i’m just a lowly law student still try to understand the national constitution. lol

By: Progressive Dem

Progressive Dem — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:18:08 +0000

“The framers of the state constitution” …. This document hasn’t exactly stood the test of time. It’s about 30 years old. We not talking Madison, Monroe, Jefferson, Adams, Hamilton here.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:56:20 +0000

You were the one who tried to make the point about an AG not “-Representing the State of Georgia in all cases appearing before the Supreme Court of the United States.”, I was merely pointing out that regardless of how many times it may come up, that the AG is the one to do it and it has been done before.

and the answer to my question earlier could be solved by simply checking the man’s bio. He’s never been a managing partner in a law firm. Thus you’re administration arguement at least when it comes to managing a law firm (which is essentually what the AG office is) is somewhat diminished.

By: Mozart

Mozart — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:32:26 +0000

And, again I say, it is the job of the District Attorneys to investigate and prosecute most crimes in this state….AND…they do not have to run them by the AG’s office for his approval OR advice.

So, y’all are still talking in circles about the job of the AG’s office. Because the AG cannot come swooping-in to a DA’s case if he thinks the DA is prosecuting it wrong. He has no jurisdiction.

By: Mozart

Mozart — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:29:40 +0000

I do not know the answer to that question. I thought someone told me once that he was a partner in a law firm but don’t know the answer to your specific question.

And…it’s darn difficult to “go check Bower’s record.” Since you and Ron and Doug seem so knowledgeable about what the AG does and does not do, I figured you would know the answer to your own suggestion.

By: Mozart

Mozart — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:25:04 +0000

Last time I checked, I had to pay property taxes to Gwinnett, not Cobb. I wish I lived in Cobb.

Not sure of what makes one an “operative” unless it is someone who blogs on a website in support of a candidate that you obviously are not for, Doug.

So, what county do you reside in so I will know how to fill-in the blank here and address you by your proper title, Doug/woods operative/_________ County GOP member?

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:17:07 +0000

Check out Bower’s record as AG. oh and by the way, given under statutory construct and interpretation, The framers of the state constitution felt that representation to the SCOTUS was not above representation of criminal matter to the SCOGA and representation in civil matters, which also finds its placement in the constitution prior to any mention of administrative duties.

One question for you, Has Olens ever served as Managing Partner of any law firm?

By: Mozart

Mozart — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:39:43 +0000

Not even in the same ball park, Doug. Heck, not even on the same planet.

By: Mozart

Mozart — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:36:35 +0000

So, to qualify for a political appointment, and, presumably, be qualified for the position, all one has to do is work on someone’s campaign?

And people cannot figure out why the GOP is unable to actually succeed in competently managing this country or state…well, it could be because the politicians have such low standards for how they decide who should be appointed to a position.

By: Doug Deal

Doug Deal — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:28:33 +0000

With the money he has raised, he isn’t coasting.

By: Doug Deal

Doug Deal — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:25:33 +0000

Doug, fair enough. But as I already stated its not a big deal unless it is something he repeats.

Mozart/olens operative/Cobb county GOP member, or whatever,

Any chance you could be any more defensive? Your guy had a bad moment, admit it, buck up and move on.

By: Doug Deal

Doug Deal — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:19:49 +0000

So is your argument that the dog guarding the hen house should be a friend of the fox?

By: GOPGeorgia

GOPGeorgia — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:19:29 +0000

I disagree that Sam is coasting. I think that both candidates are working hard to get votes.

By: Mozart

Mozart — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:11:30 +0000

Only if the law is written well enough. And, since Sam Olens has more personal experience and knowledge of working with people in this state’s legislature than Woods would, he would know how to improve the laws by helping to identify the problems with the existing laws and find the right people to carry the bill(s) and influence the process.

By: Ronald Daniels

Ronald Daniels — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:10:18 +0000

Working on their campaign, or is that butt kissing to you? If my best friend from high school runs for office and appoints me Dog Catcher, does that mean I kissed his butt for it?

I’ll be sure to disassociate with anyone with any power of appointment in the future, so I’m not accused of being a butt kisser. Thanks for informing me of the perils I face in the future.