PEACH PUNDIT EXCLUSIVE: New Rosetta Stone/Insider Advantage polling

New polling from Rosetta Stone Communications/Insider Advantage for WSB-TV shows John Oxendine’s lead continuing to dwindle as Karen Handel continues to rise. However, as Eric Johnson begins to familiarize himself with voters through his ad buy, his numbers will rise.

Here are the results:

  • John Oxendine: 26%
  • Karen Handel: 18%
  • Nathan Deal: 9%
  • Eric Johnson: 5%
  • Other 11%
  • No Opinion: 31%

Part of the survey conducted for Peach Pundit of firmly committeed Republican voters in Georgia shows:

  • John Oxendine: 17%
  • Karen Handel: 14%
  • Nathan Deal: 7%
  • Eric Johnson: 3%
  • Other: 14%
  • Undecided: 45%

139 comments

  1. fishtail says:

    Did they survey Democratic field? Would be interesting to see Thurbert Baker’s numbers given his recent media exposure.

  2. Henry Waxman says:

    Carpetbagger Karen’s numbers continue to rise. There must be more college dropouts from Maryland living in Georgia than I thought.

    • South Fulton Guy says:

      How lame…I guess Henry would rather ally with a Dixiecrat than a genuine conservative who happened to be born up north. He probably holds Bill Gates education against him too…

      • Henry Waxman says:

        Bill gates scored a 1590 SAT, started his first company at the age of 17, and took a leave of absence from Harvard following the release of the first microcomputers in order to start a software company that would soon make him the richest man in the world and one of Time magazine’s 100 most influential people of the 20th Century. Harvard has since brought Gates back to speak to its students, and the Harvard Law School gave Gates an honorary JD in 2007 (one of his seven honorary doctorates).

        On the other hand, Karen Handel dropped out of community college in Maryland because she could not handle it and has refused to complete her education in the decades since despite more-than-sufficient time and financial resources to do so.

        Somehow, I am missing the analogy you are trying to create, South Fulton Guy…

          • John Konop says:

            Henry Waxman,

            I have met and talked with the top candidates for this office other than Nathan Deal. The irony is Karen can articulate her positions with a thought-out plan better than her opponents agree or not with her. In fact the biggest compliant about Karen has always been she is a smart CEO type implementer over being a warm fuzzy politician.

            The irony is you would attack her strongest card ie her intelligences while ignoring performance. Yet you support a candidate with obvious ethical issues and have more excuses than a kid who just got caught with their hand in a cookie jar.

            • Henry Waxman says:

              Maybe Karen Handel should say “BRING IT ON!” to a few remedial courses at Georgia State before she runs for the highest office in the state.

              • John Konop says:

                Henry Waxman,

                I am glad to see you admit that you are just making a political attack with no facts. Do you not think it would be more productive to debate issues rather than spew hate?

                • Henry Waxman says:

                  I missed that admission, John. Maybe you should take your court-ordered medications and read my post again after they have taken effect.

              • Republican Lady says:

                Are you aware that President Harry Truman did not have a college degree? What do you think of his presidency?

                • Henry Waxman says:

                  President Truman was born in 1884.

                  I think the relevant point is that Georgia would be the ONLY state with a governor who could not complete his or her degree.

                  It isn’t the 19th Century anymore.

                  • Republican Lady says:

                    Well, that is one way to dismiss it. In the 20th century, Truman changed the course of history by dropping Fat Man and Little Boy (two bombs) on Japan in 1944 to end WWII, then went on to fire General MacArthur for insubordination. We are only talking about 66 years.

            • Henry Waxman says:

              John, this is the first time I have ever heard a community college dropout called a “CEO type.”

              I know that some people said that George W. Bush was a “CEO type” leader, but that’s because he had an MBA from the Harvard Business School and had actually been the CEO of a company.

              By the way, can anyone tell me what an “executive” at an accounting firm does? I can’t find a single person who works for KPMG or PWC who knows what that position actually is.

              • John Konop says:

                I guess you would also attack the below list? I understand you are all about spin and hate and performance does not matter.

                These CEOs hit it big by having a big dream and live up to it by making things happen and excel in their field without a college degree. Who said that you always need a paper qualification to start something good? Taking action is way more important and there are good examples of people who we can learn from.

                1. Dennis Albaugh
                Chairman, Albaugh
                Type of Business: Pesticides
                Education: Associate’s degree from Des Moines Area Community College
                Fun fact: He has a collection of more than 100 classic Chevrolets

                2. Paul Allen
                Founder and chairman, Vulcan
                Type of Business: Media, telecommunications
                Education: Dropped out of Washington State College after two years
                Fun fact: He persuaded Bill Gates to drop out of Harvard. They later founded Microsoft (MSFT) together.

                3. Richard Branson
                CEO, Virgin Group
                Type of Business: Travel, radio, TV, music, venture capital
                Education: No college degree
                Fun fact: He became an entrepreneur at age 16 with the creation of Student magazine.

                4. Maverick Carter
                CEO, LRMR Innovative Marketing & Branding
                Type of Business: Marketing
                Education: 3.5 years of college at Western Michigan University and University of Akron combined
                Quote: “Don’t be afraid if you see an opportunity to go and give it shot. You can finish school later; it’s always there.”

                5. John Paul DeJoria
                CEO, John Paul Mitchell Systems
                Type of Business: Hair-care products
                Education: No college
                Fun fact: He started out selling greeting cards at age 9.

                6. Michael Dell
                Founder, chairman, and CEO Dell (DELL)
                Type of Business: Computers
                Education: Attended University of Texas, Austin; did not finish.
                Quote: “When I started our company, it was very much an idea outside of the conventional wisdom, and if there were people telling me that it wasn’t going to work, I wasn’t really listening to them.”

                7. Felix Dennis
                Founder and chairman, Alpha Media Group, formerly Dennis Publishing
                Type of Business: Publishing (Maxim, The Week)
                Education: No college degree
                Fun fact: He wrote a biography and published a magazine about Bruce Lee; sales surged when the martial arts star died suddenly in 1973.

                8. Barry Diller
                Chairman and CEO of IAC/InterActiveCorp (IACI)
                Type of Business: Media
                Education: Dropped out of UCLA after three weeks
                Fun fact: He started his career working in the mail room of the William Morris Agency.

                9. Bill Gates
                Co-chair and Trustee, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation; Chairman, Microsoft (MSFT)
                Type of Business: Philanthropy. Software.
                Education: Dropped out of Harvard
                Fun fact: As a schoolboy, he created a program that allowed people to play tic-tac-toe on the computer.

                10. Mukesh “Micky” Jagtiani
                Chairman, Landmark International (Dubai)
                Type of Business: Retailing
                Education: No college degree
                Fun fact: The billionaire mall developer flunked out of a London accounting school as a teenager and worked as a taxi driver before becoming an entrepreneur.

                11. Dean Kamen
                Founder and chairman, Segway
                Type of Business: Motor vehicles
                Education: Dropped out of Worcester Polytechnic Institute
                Fun fact: Kamen founded FIRST, a robotics competition for high school students.

                12. David Oreck
                Founder, Oreck
                Type of Business: Vacuum cleaners
                Education: No college. At 17, enlisted in the army, and flew B-29 bombers during World War II
                Quote: “Things are never as bad as they seem to the pessimist and never as good as they seem to the optimist.”

                13. Amancio Ortega Gaona
                President, Inditex Group
                Type of Business: Fashion retailing (Zara, Kiddy Class, others). (A Coruna, Spain)
                Education: No college
                Fun fact: Often cited as the richest man in Spain, he reportedly has never given any media interviews

                14. Phillip Ruffin
                Owner, Treasure Island
                Type of Business: Casinos
                Education: Attended Washburn University for three years and Wichita State University but never got his degree.
                Quote: “You get the most experience from the business of life.”

                15. Alfred Taubman
                Founder, Taubman Centers (TCO). Philanthropist
                Type of Business: Shopping malls
                Education: Attended the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor for three years but left to start a family and his career
                Quote: “Become an expert in one fundamental area of your market or business. No one starts out as a generalist.”

                16. Ty Warner

                Founder, Ty, Inc.
                Type of Business: Toys (stuffed animals)
                Education: Dropped out of college to pursue a career in acting. Later founded Ty Inc.
                Fun fact: The plush animals his company manufactured retailed for only $5 in the 1990s, but Beanie Baby-mania drove prices up to $30 or more for the hard-to-get characters.

                http://www.davidtan.org/famous-ceos-without-college-degrees/

                • GOPGeorgia says:

                  JK,

                  I agree that the people on list that you have presented us with have done very well. However, are you saying it’s better not to have a college degree?

                    • John Konop says:

                      Mayonnaise,

                      Debating issue is fair game, but baseless spewing hate of hate for political gain should be rejected by all Americans agree or not on the issues.

                    • John Konop says:

                      sorry

                      Mayonnaise,

                      Debating issue is fair game, but baseless spewing of hate for political gain should be rejected by all Americans agree or not on the issues.

                    • Mozart says:

                      Mayo,

                      Little insider tip for you about JK’s debating tactics: ANYTHING you say that throws a dark shadow on the candidate JK likes (like, for example, the comment you made that infers Karen Handel is a fraud on the pro-life issue…which she is) gets painted by JK as you “spewing hateful” things.

                    • John Konop says:

                      You can personally attack me all day but the truth is the truth. And what I find most ironic is when I ran for office I warned about the irresponsible votes casted by your candidate NATHAN DEAL!

                      Please help me understand how I was wrong when I pointed out during the boom times that we way end up paying for his irresponsible votes for the following bills?

                      JUST TO NAME A FEW:

                      1) Medicare part D which I warned we had no money to pay for it in the future and it would alone BK our country.

                      2) No Child Left Behind a one size fit all failed unfunded mandates that I warned would only out money in the pockets of lobbyist while hurting education.

                      3) A pork driven energy bill that gave payoffs to oil companies to get us off oil which they make money on. Please help me understand why anyone would think this was good idea?

                      4) A pork driven highway bill with brides to nowhere.

                      5) NO LONGER treating derivatives like an insurance product. And I warned we created an economy driven by debt not production. How was I wrong during the boom times?

                      I could go on and on, but the above alone is enough pain for a life times. Please help me understand how I was wrong about the above issues? And why you think NATHAN DEAL was right?

                    • John Konop says:

                      Mozart,

                      You would rather focus on personal attacks and or gut level politics; why not deal with issue I brought up? Is it because you could careless about the economy?

                    • GOPGeorgia says:

                      “I warned you!”

                      JK

                      I think we have met. Were you the guy dressed in rags holding up a sign saying “the end is near?”

                    • John Konop says:

                      HW,

                      Your solution and Nathan Deal to fix Medicare, which is going to BK our country is to add more unfunded liabilities we cannot afford! WOW, you guys are way to fiscally irresponsible for any rational person to support! Like GOP Georgia ,party and candidate is more important to you than your country. You must hate your kids to be this irresponsible!

                      Wiki…..Richard W. Fisher, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas has remarked that in order to “cover the unfunded liability” for the Medicare program today over an infinite time horizon, “you would be stuck with an $85.6 trillion bill” which is “more than six times the annual output of the entire U.S. economy”, and noted that “Medicare was a pay-as-you-go program from the very beginning.”[50]
                      The present value of unfunded obligations under all parts of Medicare during FY 2007 over a 75-year forecast horizon is approximately $34.0 trillion. In other words, this amount would have to be set aside today such that the principal and interest would cover the shortfall over the next 75 years.[51]…..

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)

                  • Ramblinwreck says:

                    I think Congressman Hank “are you worried the island of Guam is going to tip over” Johnson has a degree doesn’t he?

                    • Andre says:

                      So does former Secretary of Defense Donald “there are known-knowns, known-unknowns and unknown-unknowns” Rumsfeld.

                    • Henry Waxman says:

                      A degree and an obvious substance abuse problem. There are only so many ways to get Hep C…

                    • Henry Waxman says:

                      Actually, I shouldn’t have said that. I am aware of no proof that Congressman Johnson has ever abused intravenous drugs or shared needles with anyone infected with hepatitis C.

                    • Henry Waxman says:

                      Doug, maybe we need to follow Mark Twain’s advice: “Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

                    • John Konop says:

                      HW,

                      From your lack of response I guess, we all agree that the votes Nathan Deal made were very irresponsible for our country while in congress.

                    • John Konop says:

                      You and GOPGeorgia can attack me personally all day long, but that does not change the irresponsible voting record by Nathan Deal that got us into this fiscal mess.

                      You have the God given right to spew out BS in America! But both of you are fooling yourself if you do not think most people see it for what it is!

                  • GOPGeorgia says:

                    JK,

                    Please provide proof that Ben Roethlisberger admitted that he committed a crime. You don’t realize when you are wrong, so how could you possibly realize anything about me? When you can learn how to admit that you are wrong on a subject, you might be worth debating. However, I kind of doubt it. Until then, the only reply you’ll get from me is – 17.7%, unless I just feel like weighing in.

                    • John Konop says:

                      GOP,

                      It does make sense you would support a pig like Roethlisberger and defend Nathan Deal that help create this fiscal with his voting record!

                    • John Konop says:

                      sorry

                      GOP,

                      It does make sense you would support a pig like Roethlisberger and defend Nathan Deal that help create this fiscal MESS with his voting record!

                    • GOPGeorgia says:

                      JK,

                      You can call him a pig all you like, but the TRUTH is you stated Roethlisburger admited to a crime. He didn’t. YOU ARE WRONG ON YOUR FACTS. I’ve already told you I don’t care that much for Big Ben or the Steelers, but instead of talking about the truth, you just like to smear and distort. Let us know when you can admit you were WRONG.

                    • GOPGeorgia says:

                      Konop,

                      As far as I am concerned, YOU are Hitler, and I wouldn’t cover up for your pathetic showing of 17.7%. Even if you could do anyone a favor, it would be about something you warned us about. You can say what you like, attack the messenger all you like, but the FACT IS YOU CAN”T ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG ON FACTS. You can’t prove any of the LIES you just said.

                      Therefore, any dialog with you is a waste of time.

                      You also said “if he were in my party.” Thankfully I think that means you admit you are not a Republican.

                    • John Konop says:

                      GOP,
                      I have made it clear many times on the blog I consider myself an independent now, to many leaders in the party like you covering for candidates who are fiscal liberals with ethical problems for my taste. The irony how this thread, like all others all become the GOPGeorgia cover-up thread when you post.

                      Is it worth selling out your country just to put your nose up some candidates……?

                      The irony all you ever do is point the votes I got not the warnings I made about the irresponsible policy you supported that got us into this fiscal mess! The difference between you and I is, it has always been about country for me first, while you care about winning over sound policy.

                    • GOPGeorgia says:

                      Jk,

                      I am not covering up that you are wrong on facts and won’t admit that. There’s no need for me to tell everyone about how you warned them, because you do that at least once a week. You say it’s all about country for you, but the reality is it’s all about you, how you were right, everyone else was wrong, and all the doom and gloom you have predicted has come to pass. this is how you can sleep at night. You are OK with getting beat as long as you can say, at least JK was proven right in the end and JK told them so.

                    • John Konop says:

                      GOP,

                      Which truth was I wrong about and you were right via policy?

                      When I spoke out early and often on No Child Left Behind, Energy, Highway, debt issue, derivative regulations, Medicare part d, congressional pay raises….. while you raised money for candidates that voted for it.

                    • GOPGeorgia says:

                      Hi Byte…we will.

                      JK, are you admitting that you lie about things that are not policy related? That’s a step in the right direction.

                • Republican Lady says:

                  Let’s compare the ones you listed above who have done good things with ones having college degrees who decided not to do so much good:

                  Richard Nixon, John Oxendine, Nathan Deal, Bernie Madoff, Kenneth Lay, Jeffrey Skilling, the past six Illinois governors, the Congressmen pandering to male aides and interns.

                  Yep, that decides it for me!

                  • Henry Waxman says:

                    The people you list were also high school graduates too, so let’s get a middle school dropout to serve as our governor.

                    • Henry Waxman says:

                      Again, the relevant point is that Georgia would be the ONLY state with a governor who could not complete his or her degree. We would have the least educated governor in America.

                      When Governor Handel gives out the Governor’s Scholarship to the top students in Georgia, what would she say to them?

                      “Good luck with this whole college thing, but if it gets too tough, I would just drop out and forget the whole silly mess. Look at me – I dropped out after a few classes, and I turned out fine.”

      • Henry Waxman says:

        If Carpetbagger Karen is elected governor, Georgia will have the LEAST EDUCATED governor in the United States, a fact that I’m sure will really impress companies thinking locating some of their operations in Georgia.

        She would have fewer college credits than most of the high school valedictorians that visit the Governor’s Mansion every spring. I don’t know about you, but that certainly bothers me.

        • G. Moxley Sorrel says:

          Some of the stupidest people I have met in my life have a college degree. I would rather have someone for Governor that has good ideas and no college degree than some of those liberals out there with doctorates.

          • Henry Waxman says:

            Funny, some of the stupidest people I have met couldn’t complete a college degree if they tried.

              • John Konop says:

                Henry Waxman,

                The official stance of the DEAL campaign is 80% of Georgians are stupid because they have no degree and if you do not have a degree, you should not be able to run for office?

                • Henry Waxman says:

                  I’m starting to see why a jab at someone’s intelligence hits so close to home for you, John.

                  I am a fan of Nathan Deal, but I am in no way an official part of his campaign. Therefore, my opinions are my own and not the official positions of Nathan Deal.

                  If we were to take your logic and apply it to your support of Karen Handel, then Mrs. Handel would share your support for a $1 per gallon tax increase on all fossil fuels for use in motor vehicles and the elimination of prescription drug coverage for seniors. Of course, if those are Karen Handel’s official positions, then I think the fine people of Georgia should be made aware of her insanity as soon as possible.

                  • John Konop says:

                    Henry Waxman,

                    I am not the one who is snob about education. I got degree from one of the top planning schools in the country and never used it. My first job out of college was working for a Greek multimillionaire with a sixth grade education running a business. And the 2 years I worked for him it taught me many business lessons I use today.

                    I also latter worked for a billionaire with no college degree who once aging taught me invaluable business lessons. In my world I deal with Harvard MBA type business people as well non college graduates. And what I have learned is one you can learn from anyone and book education does not always equate to being a smart business operator.

                    Also from being dyslexic, I am not as judgmental as you are about intelligence. The IQ test was develop for aptitude placement during WW1, not a one size fit all intelligence standard you and Nathan Deal support ie NCLB your candidate supports.

                    • Henry Waxman says:

                      Why does Nathan Deal automatically get lumped into supporting every position I make?

                      Does Karen Handel support your proposal to add another $1.00 excise tax on every gallon of gasoline and diesel dispensed in Georgia?

                  • John Konop says:

                    HW,

                    Did you support the below Nathan Deal votes why or why not?

                    1) Medicare part D which I warned we had no money to pay for it in the future and it would alone BK our country.

                    2) No Child Left Behind a one size fit all failed unfunded mandates that I warned would only out money in the pockets of lobbyist while hurting education.

                    3) A pork driven energy bill that gave payoffs to oil companies to get us off oil which they make money on. Please help me understand why anyone would think this was good idea?

                    4) A pork driven highway bill with brides to nowhere.

                    5) NO LONGER treating derivatives like an insurance product. And I warned we created an economy driven by debt not production. How was I wrong during the boom times?

                  • Republican Lady says:

                    HW,

                    As I have said before, I have four college degrees and it isn’t helping me to get a full-time job. It seems that anyone fiftyish is having a hard time on many employment fronts.

                    Truman had no college but he did end WWII and he kept Americans on an upward mobile and economic track coming out of the depression while being fiftyish something with no ‘paper’ and holding a job.

                    Personally, I think police officers should have college degrees before they are hired. How many 21-year-olds with a GED or a high school diploma are mature enough to pack a gun, drive a police cruiser, and make intelligent decisions while under severe emotional stress, like being shot at, or being in a fight for their life, without violating a person’s civil rights?

                    Heck, some people taking my Criminal Justice classes think all police officers should be able to behave like “Walker, Texas Ranger.” They don’t seem to understand that is television, not reality.

                    All police officers need an indepth knowledge of Constitutional Law and Ethics and a very clear understanding of what they can and cannot do. College degrees, more than just basic training, teaches those skills, yet, we give them the tools with no formal education and say, “go enforce the law” without a clear understanding of the basis of the law they are supposed to represent.

                    So if you want to attack a field where college is paramount to maintaining basic human rights and freedoms, use this format!

                    It takes more to be a governor than just a piece of paper alone. It takes guts, courage, experience in similar enviroments, intestinal fortitude, and a plan, like Truman had on a federal level, to turn Georgia around. Karen is Georgia’s “Truman.”

          • Mozart says:

            So, Moxley, should we infer from your statement that college educations and degrees are completely worthless and drop the HOPE Scholarship program? I mean, you know, if we want to have some consistency with what you are evidently trying to push here…

        • Doug Deal says:

          If Deal is elected, we will have the most CORRUPT Governor, oh wait, I forgot about Illinois, NY and NJ. Top 5 though.

          Why are you so anti women, Waxman? What is the only thing the Deal campaign sockpuppets come up with is misogyny? I know she scares the Deal campaign to pieces, but try to stick to the issues.

          • Henry Waxman says:

            Doug, I know you are too smart to abuse such a embarrassingly basic logical fallacy in public forum.

            (1) Henry doesn’t like Doug’s Candidate, Karen Handel.
            (2) Karen Handel is woman.
            Therefore:
            (3) Henry doesn’t like women.

            I can’t figure which is worse – your believing that or your expectation that others would believe that.

            • Henry Waxman says:

              Please forgive the typos:

              Doug, I know you are too smart to abuse such an embarrassingly basic logical fallacy in a public forum.

              (1) Henry doesn’t like Doug’s favorite candidate, Karen Handel.
              (2) Karen Handel is woman.
              Therefore:
              (3) Henry doesn’t like women.

              I can’t figure which is worse – your believing that or your expectation that others would believe that.

              • Doug Deal says:

                I do not fault anyone for typos, they happen and this is not exactly a literary journal.

                However, it is the nature and style of the attacks from the Deal campaign toward Handel that merits my comment. From the very beginning, nothing of substance. It started with rumors about her supposed inability to fund raise, then about her resigning, then her lack of a degree, then innuendo about her being a “carpet-bagger”, closet “liberal” or other trash.

                A fish rots from the head, and Nathan’s eyes have turned glossy and he is stinking up the joint. He will lose this election, but the harm he has done to the party will live on past this primary.

                In the end, he will likely do more for the Dems as a Republican than he ever did as a Dem.

        • KariDee says:

          Thank you Henry. It really is a concern of mine that she is not educated. I am not saying that people that are not educated can not be successful. I just feel that a lesser educated person can be swayed politcally more easily by aides or advisors who we do not elect.

          • Icarus says:

            Isn’t it your candidate who had a Chief of Staff who “wouldn’t let him” attend meetings without him?

            (Note: Don’t keep saying “read the report” unless you expect people to actually do that. You may want to read it too, for comprehension this time).

            Good luck pushing the “lack of education” card in the rural parts of the state (where your guy, in theory, is strongest). You’re going to irritate the uneducated, especially when the keys to your guys financial success wasn’t his education, but his political connections that got him, and kept him, a no-bid business arrangement with the state that made him more money than most of those poor uneducated Georgians will ever see in a lifetime.

            • KariDee says:

              I have read it….at least a couple of times…..and that statement you are referring to, about Mr. Riley, is being taken completely out of context. He is paid to be with ex-congressman for all work related purposes.

              • Icarus says:

                Everything anyone ever writes about your guy is taken “completely out of context”.

                You guys used that card on Ghetto Grandmother, and Ox is ticked because he had it trademarked.

                Btw, what is the proper context for using the word “ghetto grandmother”?

                And what is the proper context for a COS to never allow the actual elected official to ever attend any meeting without him unless it is personal business?

                • Henry Waxman says:

                  Since you asked, the interesting thing about the “ghetto grandmothers” comment was that Congress Deal was actually referring to how he worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to help ensure that people who did not have a birth certificate could still qualify for Medicaid coverage under the implementing regulations for the citizenship and identity verification requirement for Medicaid that he authored. Yes, he worked to help some “grandmothers” who were born in “ghettos” because he knew that some elderly, minority populations were not issued birth certificates due to bigoted actions by government officials and/or health care providers. If you doubt that, I am happy to give you the contact information for George W. Bush’s Director for the Center for Medicaid and State Operations who was in charge of this rule.

                  I don’t see the inherent bigotry in alliterations, and I don’t see anything inherently wrong with the word “ghetto.”

                  Here is a Merriam-Webster definition of the word “ghetto”: a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure.

                  And here is the final HHS rule on the subject: http://www.cms.gov/MedicaidGenInfo/Downloads/CMS2257F.pdf

                  Be sure to read it for comprehension.

            • Henry Waxman says:

              Just because someone is from a rural area (like me), it doesn’t mean he or she wants an uneducated leader.

              Governor Jindal was a Rhodes Scholar, and he polls very well in rural Louisiana. Rep. Virginia Foxx, Ph.D., did well in rural North Carolina. Senator Tom Coburn, M.D., did well in rural Oklahoma. Senator John Barrasso, M.D., did well in rural Wyoming. Congressman Phil Gingrey, M.D., did well in rural Georgia. In fact, most of the 14 doctors in Congress represent rural areas.

              • Icarus says:

                My point isn’t that educated people can poll well with the uneducated. My point is that when you guys start attacking someone for not finishing college, you’re going to alienate a large cross-section of folks who also have had to make something of themselves from nothing.

                It’s an interesting strategy on your part, and I encourge you to continue to employ it liberally.

                • Henry Waxman says:

                  What do you mean “you guys”? Do you think I have some official capacity with the campaign?

                  I’m just a fan who enjoys the debate here on Peach Pundit.

          • Ambernappe says:

            I will never be “swayed” by any candidate – resources are available to investigate almost any claim of any candidate.

            Not many voters availed themselves of these resorces before voting in the 2008 Presidential campaign.

    • Ambernappe says:

      I am a “college dropout” from Nashville, TN, and many people who have expressed an opinion, consider me to be highly educated. There are universal standards for education, and everyone does not learn in the same way. International travel, other than “tour groups”, familiarity with great books, classical music training, study of foreign languages, a fascination with ancient history, and other efforts are far more important to me than absorbing the indoctrination which might have been part of official credentials.

      The discussion could go on………………

  3. G. Moxley Sorrel says:

    “Eric Johnson remains at 5% despite being the first candidate for Governor this year, to advertise on television.”

    “A new InsiderAdvantage/WSB-TV poll conducted on 04/05/2010”

    Ugh let’s see, the Johnson campaign’s first ads appeared on April 6th, so how has his tv ads affected people that haven’t seen them. Makes me wonder about how “smart” the people conducting this poll really are.

  4. Fred Smulavich says:

    Undecided, still firmly holding the lead! I’ll be pretty excited once people do a little mass outreach and lay their cards out on the table.

  5. TPNoGa says:

    I just looked up the primary date. July 20th? Why would the state have primaries during a time when people are on vacation? I would have scheduled them in May or September, when people aren’t at Myrtle Beach.

  6. Doug Deal says:

    If Other is going to have 11% and beat both Johnson and Deal, they had better include enough of the other so that it loses to the last named person on the list. Otherwise, they have no business listing those guys either.

    I.e., where is Scott?

    Overall, I this is playing out like people have predicted, Ox sinks, Karen rises, and it’s all a matter now to see if it’s Ox or someone else in the runoff with Handel.

    • polisavvy says:

      Doug, let’s get Representative Scott out of session finally and see what happens. I don’t think anyone should rule him out.

      • Doug Deal says:

        I wasn’t counting Scott out, I was saying that its not right to lump him in with “other” when the 11% others is getting beats 2 candidates who aren’t rolled up in other.

        • polisavvy says:

          I wasn’t saying you were counting Scott out. I was simply meaning that with the long, drawn out session that he’s at a disadvantage over some of the other candidates since he didn’t quit to run. I think it’s still anyone’s game especially given the percentage of undecideds or no opinions. I agree with you about the lumping, too.

    • Henry Waxman says:

      For the record, I do like Handel much more than I like Ox. However, I still believe that Handel intentionally lied to my face during a meeting I had in the Governor’s Office several years ago.

    • South Fulton Guy says:

      Ah yes the ethically challenged, master panderer John Weiman Oxendine – who doesn’t have a sincere bone in his body, masquerading as a guardian of the public trust.

      Clearly we want OX to lead Georgia as much as we are enjoying Obama leading our country. The only question is will OX implode before he is indicted.

      • Chris says:

        If I were an Obama appointed US Attorney, I’d wait till after primaries are over to drop the indictments.

        • ByteMe says:

          Which might explain why BushCo’s unethical manipulation of the Justice Dept. didn’t register as a bad thing with most Republicans. “Everybody does it!” Yeesh.

          • polisavvy says:

            Just wanted to say “hi.” Missed a few days on here — yard work. Finally finished! By the way, I actually agree with you. If it’s wrong, it’s wrong regardless of party affiliation.

                • ByteMe says:

                  You expected differently with only being gone a couple of days?? We’d need “Extreme Makeover: Peach Pundit Edition” to effect that kind of change.

                  • polisavvy says:

                    LOL!! So true. Sometimes I don’t understand why it has to be so nasty on here on occasions. Seems like a bunch of grownups could discuss issues/politics/policies without some of the unnecessary crap (unless there are some who aren’t so grown). 😉

                    • ByteMe says:

                      Seems like they could, except that it wouldn’t be encouraged by the owners who need page hits and civility doesn’t generate hits. 😉

                    • Icarus says:

                      We strongly encourage and prefer civility. However, we’ve generally tried to adopt a “hands off” policy where possible. When we do make the rare move to put someone in “time out” or go to the extremely rare step of banning someone, it’s generally been because of a caustic and abusive nature of the offender.

                      And generally, when we’ve done so, we then get those who supported that person screaming “censorship” or that we’ve trying to silence opinions that are different from ours.

                      And thus, to allow for all sides to get their opinions heard, we’ve generally going to stick with the hands off approach.

                      There is nothing wrong with self-policing from within the Peach Pundit community however. If you see an argument getting a bit too caustic, feel free to step in and suggest the participants take a deep breath.

                      That’s generally worked fairly well around here, and is often more effective than our team of ruffian contributors coming in with our mean and powerful heavy hands.

                    • Mozart says:

                      We are TOO old enough to post on Peach Pundit! MOM! They’re saying we aren’t grown-ups on PeachPundit!

                    • ByteMe says:

                      Having been the target of two abusive commentators — now banned — out here, I can definitely attest that there is a limit to the abuse allowed.

                      But there’s definitely a lot of flair-ups of incivility (especially on certain topics), they just don’t last long. I’ve been guilty of it as well. Some days, normally nice people can get a little cranky.

                      (Now if they would just get a front-pager who has an alternative point of view than the current set just to mix things up a bit more.)

                    • polisavvy says:

                      Mozart, that was in no way directed towards you. You have to agree that there are a few on here who don’t like being challenged in any way, shape, or form and that they become nasty. Of course, people can say and will say whatever they chose to say, all I am saying is that the few who do get nasty seem to want to go in for the kill. BTW, I think you should know it wasn’t directed at you since I usually post something about how I enjoy your posts.

                      At Icarus, I am fully aware of the fact that you guys pretty well let people say whatever they want, and I do appreciate it when you feel the need to step in. As for me, well I am not going to even try to get in the middle of some of these battles. I prefer to have all my body parts. I fear the loss of my head!

                    • Mozart says:

                      Poli, I took no offense in the slightest with your comments. I was just going to the extreme in absurdity in reaction to your and Icaros’s comments. It is quite difficult for someone on here to get my ire up.

                      Unless his name is Chris. Or, John. Or…

                • Henry Waxman says:

                  Yeah, the Eleventh Commandment went out the window months ago and landed next to the civility that was previously discarded. Of course, I accept my share of the blame.

                  By the way, welcome back. Your participation was missed.

        • Icarus says:

          My bet is that Yates will indict when she has all the evidence she needs for a conviction.

          …and note that I said “when”, not “if”.

  7. chefdavid says:

    I am still undecided but am leaning towards Scott. After getting burned by the ghetto grandmothers trying to get a birth certificate out the president so they could get their car inspected before the business resigns, I will wait a little while before I get fully commited.

  8. Howard Masters says:

    Johnson – raises $700,000, cash $1,750,000.

    I didn’t think he would raise that much, but it’s not that impressive. He needed to get to where Barnes is to have a chance. He can make a little noise, but doesn’t make the runoff.

  9. It’s amazing how short memories are and how ADD politics is. These campaigns have been operating over a year, heck some for several years. The amount of undecideds are still pretty high. Politicians might simply want to go back to “old school” campaigning, instead of wearing everyone down.

  10. Progressive Dem says:

    It’s reassuring to see McBerry not making the cut, but Scott doesn’t even crack 5% among “firmly committed Republicans.” He needs to drop down to Lt. Governor. Casey Cagle is low hanging fruit.

  11. saltycracker says:

    The story is undecided and no opinion – kinda like arguing who is the choice quarterback in the state….the third or fourth or fifth backup quarterback at Valdosta State……explains voter apathy……..

    • polisavvy says:

      So true, saltycracker. People keep overlooking the most important votes that the candidates should be trying to get — the undecideds and no opinions. Their votes could determine the outcome of the election.

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