One time Georgian Robert Stacy McCain reports on Move On’s anger at John Barrow because of his vote against Obamacare. The group has targeted Barrow for defeat in the Democratic primary and may be willing to spend six figures to make it happen. McCain also says…
Such are the pressures on Barrow that some Georgia Republicans now believe that the Democrat may be contemplating a switch to the GOP, which would set up a divisive situation much like that in Alabama’s 5th District, where national Republican support for party-switcher Parker Griffith has enraged grassroots GOP activists.
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Then which Democrat for congress would Dave Simons support with financial contributions?
Don’t forget about the talk about Lester Jackson running, who is a Democrat client of Simons.
i’d be really, really shocked if that happened for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is smith’s recent announcement that he is now working w/ dave…
Top Ten Reasons Eric Johnson Will Lose:
10. Dave Simons makes Bobby Kahn look nice!
9. He gives money to Democrats – like his consultant!
(add yours below)
O.K., that’s kind of a threadjack. And when I say “kind of”, I mean, it is.
Feel free to re-post on the open thread that was so conveniently posted just this morning.
Any follow up comments to this will be sent to the recycle bin. (Don’t say we’re not green around here…)
“Then which Democrat for congress would Dave Simons support with financial contributions?”
Hahahah. Awesome.
Open arms? ….. then primary him out in 2012 ?
I highly doubt it. Barrow votes with Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and liberal Democratic leadership an overwhelming majority of the time. He’s too liberal to suit the Republican base in GA-12 (he’ received a 100% approval rating from NARAL Pro-Choice and 60% approval rating from Planned Parenthood in the past) but too conservative to cotinue to garner support from his Democratic base.
The Parker Griffith case was a little different, as Griffith was already considered by many to be socially AND fiscally conservative. This would be an even worse move on Congressman Barrow’s part.
I went to the Bulloch County Democratic Party meeting a few weeks ago; everyone there was furious over Barrow’s ‘NO’ vote and everyone I spoke to there said he or she plans to vote for Regina Thomas. Even a lot of Barrow’s biggest supporters – even “conservatived” Dems – have abandoned him. It’s a looooooong shot that Regina will get the Democratic nomination, but whether Barrow is the nominee or not, he looks to be toast this November.
who are these ga gop’s wondering if barrow will switch? i have never heard such talk and while i’m certainly a nobody in the grand scheme, i tend to hear most rumors of this nature in and around sav’h…
His family would disown him. There is nothing, IMO, that makes this a credible rumor.
I read it here so it must be true
Somebody’s smoking crack if they think Barrow will switch parties. And let’s not forget that Regina Thomas is an absolutely stupid individual. I am not saying that to be cruel. For those of you who don’t have to watch her on local news TV stations, she cannot communicate worth a flip. She has no grasp of any issue. Her claim to fame is that she wears fancy hats and is black. That’s not going to cut it. Not to mention that Barrow has over $1 million in his campaign account and I doubt Regina Thomas has $100. The Tea Party has a GOP candidate but I don’t have any idea who she is. And Barrow has time to let his negative vote on Obamacare simmer down as an issue. So I think he stays in as Congressman come November.
Perfect analysis of Senator Thomas. Nice lady, but from the time I’ve spent around her, she needs some sort of pill.
The same Robert Stacy McCain who is a member of the League of the South? If we’re going to discuss McBerry’s associations, we might as well be consistent.
Robert Stacy McCain is running for Governor?
remember, it is a marathon not a sprint… oh its a different McCain
I see somebody’s been keeping up with their Charles Johnson (Little Green Footballs) like a good little PC mouthpiece.
Well of course, Red! I would never have heard that ANYWHERE else!!
Is he or is he not a member of the League of the South?
I have no idea whether or not McCain belongs to the League of the South. Nor do I have any idea what other reporters do in their spare time.
This is between me and the Neo-Confederate now, Buzz.
And it’s certainly telling who was the first to jump to R.S. McCain’s defense.
Sure. I have no interest in getting in the middle of all that.
Here is what you don’t get grift. Let’s say RSM was a member of the League of the South at some point. For a hysterical PC Cultural Marxist spear carrier like Charles Johnson (and apparently you), that alone is an indictment. But for authentic conservatives, even if they don’t agree with the League entirely, it says good things about him. Just like if someone is a card-carrying member of the Handgun Control Inc. then someone being a lifetime member of the NRA is an indictment. But for people who support the second amendment, being a lifetime member of the NRA is a credential.
Your use of the word “telling” is telling. Whooo… it’s soooo “telling” that I came to McCains defense. That must mean I’m one of those scary, evil something or others. Your PC charges don’t scare me. I’m on to your Cultural Marxist game, and I’m not intimidated by it in the least.
“Just like … someone being a lifetime member of the NRA is an indictment”
No, not just like that. I mean, could you be a member of Aryan Nations and be respected by “authentic conservatives” because you don’t agree with them entirely?
No, because the Aryan Nation is not like the League of the South at all unless you are a hysterical PC know-nothing. White Nationalists are quite vocal in their dislike for paleocons, who they see as insufficiently racialist, and are generally nationalist (as the name implies) and not decentralist like the League. Also many white nats tend to be pagans or the heretical Christian Identity sect. The League is openly orthodox Christian. But what do details like that matter when your only point is to slander someone?
The point is that you can’t generalize that specific example.
Just because there are groups that are not radical enough such that someone could be a part of it and not accrue much negative impact, doesn’t mean that ALL groups have that quality.
Basically, I would be distressed if “authentic conservatives” would consider any association with LOTS as a positive. But I guess that depends on what you mean by “authentic conservatives”.
“Basically, I would be distressed if “authentic conservatives” would consider any association with LOTS as a positive.”
Why? What about the League is negative? What does the League believe that Patrick Henry, for example, didn’t believe?
REB,
LOTS is not a group I would associate myself with. You have already drank deep from the LOTS Kool-aide mug. Anyone telling you what was wrong with it would fall on deaf ears.
There is something about that mixing of present and past tense that I think holds the key.
I admit a made a tense mistake! I should have used the word “is” instead of “was.”
Indeed. But when you forget to wind the calendar and its already April and the month is still stuck on January, 1859, your perspective can be a little askew.
I don’t think benevoulus is a Ray McBerry supporter.
I didn’t mean you GOPG. Sorry about the confusion. I was referring to Red’s suggesting that whatever Patrick Henry believed in 1775 is relevant today in 2010.
Red, it would be just as valid for me to say that if Patrick Henry had lived through our whole country’s history, and was alive today (and was 274 years old) that he would understand where we have arrived after all we have been through. He would surely quibble with certain things, as we all do, but to claim that you know that he would embrace secession at this time? That is a fantasy.
I was referring to Red and supporting bene. We need more reply levels.
Oh. And he ain’t a reporter. Let’s not even attempt to saunter down that false equivalency path.
Not trying to saunter anywhere grift. All I did was link to something interesting related to a Georgia Congressman.
McCain doesn’t need my defense. He has already mopped the floor with Charles Johnson, who has now been deserted by conservatives and preaches only to his self-selected group of sycophants. Score: McCain 1 Johnson 0. And McCain is both a reporter and an opinion writer. As he is quick to remind people, he got his start as a beat writer for some small Georgia newspaper.
I am almost certain the RSM is no longer a member of the League of the South if he ever was. I don’t know if he ever was or if that is what was even alleged. I think what was alleged is that he had attended one of their meetings and maybe commented on their blog. But I don’t know. It is hard to keep up with all these allegations.
But my point would be, so what if he was. In fact, if he was it would speak well of him. It would mean he might actually have some authentic conservatism running through his veins and is not just another mainstream movement conservative mouthpiece.
I do know that it is often felt among paleocons like me, that RSM is “paleosympathetic.” He has written for TakiMag, for example. He opposed the invasion of Iraq. But he now seems to be playing up his fidelity with the broader conservative movement for strategic reasons without having abandoned his previous positions.
I thought it would be fun to argue with a neo-confederate, but it’s not. The internet makes me tired.
By now you ought to know it’s like arguing with a dining room table.
Only if that is an exceptional dining room table that knows a lot about the Constitution and the intent of the Founders. More snide remarks in the place of arguments. No surprise there. Seems to be the MO of the centrist brigades around here.
It’s not fun because I don’t go running for the tall grass at the first sign of being accused of wrongthink or called an extremist.
That’s one (very inaccurate) interpretation.
The other is that scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail where the Green Knight keeps getting his limbs chopped off but does not have the bare minimal horse sense to yield even when he is beaten to a torso.
In the end, legless and armless, you still claim some sort of “victory”.
That is one my favorite movie scenes of all time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4
“I’ll bite your legs off.”
Yep. That and the holy hand-grenade.
I don’t think Barrow will switch to the GOP…my 2 cents
The GOP would be fools to support him if he switched. Personally, Barrow seems like a nice guy the times I’ve been around him, but he is certainly not a Republican (his entire career has been left-leaning…if he had John Lewis’ district, he’d be one of the most liberal members of Congress).
I could welcome someone like Heath Shuler to the GOP, but Barrow – blah, no way.
Define Republican. George Bush? Sonny Perdue? Saxby Chambliss? The list could go on for hours of Republicans who continue to grow government. These days the difference between the two major parties isn’t whether or not to spend billions of dollars, it’s *how* to spend those billions of dollars.
It’s really all about the team colors now.
Any republican with any common sense should welcome any democrat with enough common sense to switch.
If republicans fail to embrace democrat defectors the GOP will never again be the party of the people.
Party switchers are welcomed when they start voting along the party platform. Otherwise, they may be begrudgingly accepted and sometimes they could get beat in the GOP primary.
It’s a shame there’s nothing in place to throw out the politicians who don’t vote with your party’s platform.
I would prefer Heath to remain a Democrat as well, but that’s mostly because I hate the Tennessee Vols and their roadworker-orange uniforms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2G3vIE8aNM
LOL!
I’ll believe this when I see it.
I enjoy the contrast between Jason Pye’s UGA logo and conservative views and ByteMe’s UF logo and not-so-conservative views. I would say they are perfect foils, but I know they both very tech savvy.
Back when I was still Farris’s “Gnome at the Dome” I was the fly on the wall during a conversation that does not make this as far fetched as most would think. However, I’d still put it at 3:1 against.
At 3:1 against, I would still put my money on Barrow staying a Democrat. There is no way Barrow survives his first Republican primary.
Deal, Ralph Hall, Billy Tauzin, and Virgil Goode were all very popular in their districts, and this allowed them to thrive after a party switch. On the other hand, Barrow only won his current district by 864 votes in 2006.
The only reason Barrow should switch parties is if he sees himself being defeated as a result of the redistricting process before the 2012 election, and he is able to work out a deal with the General Assembly to produce a good, safe district for himself. Of course, I don’t know why the Republicans and the Democrats who would like to run for Congress from that area would agree to this deal.
Getting Parker Griffith was a good get for the Republicans in the U.S. House because he is physician who added credibility to their fight against ObamaCare. The only thing that a Barrow switch would provide is the appearance that the rats are fleeing the sinking ship, which (some would argue) is already happening given the number of Blue Dogs from conservative districts choosing to retire instead of very tough re-election fights.
Correction: Virgil Goode would be an example of someone who lost his seat after switching parties because he was not very popular in his district. However, Deal, Hall, and Tauzin were all very successful after switching parties.
Barrow switching to a Republican is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. Or do you…..can anyone say creamy, milky, squishy center!
Jim Bob…sounds like you have a crush on Congressman Barrow….else why the describtive adjectives….subliminal…you are probably gay.
You mind find this link helpful, fishtail: http://www.lifescript.com/Soul/Self/Growth/Psychological_Projection_Dealing_With_Undesirable_Emotions.aspx
Yo Smelly Butt,
I mean this with all lack of respect……You’re an idiot.
Thanks for the unitelligent comment, though.
Hey Smelly Butt,
Since my first comment obviously went over your head, my last comment is called sarcasim…..try to grasp it next time.
Jim Bobbie…real men don’t call other men “creamy and squishy”….so admit it, you’ve got a secret man-crush on the Congressman.
Wonder if Max Burns will get into the fray? He lost by 4% and that was in the midst of the Abramoff scandal year when all the Republicans went down. Those were good numbers then, he would have some good winds this time.
max is a great man, but i think he has moved on, and up to n. ga to go back to teaching…
I am a huge Max Burns fan.
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