You keep doing what you’re doing.

Remember, vote Barnes! He’s ugly as hell but knows how to keep his pants on. He aint no molester and his staff won’t be from the Exorcist.

I am not presently calling for secession. The country is not there yet. I would and do defend the idea that secession is a legitimate moral and legal constitutional option if other lesser measure of restoring said constitutional order fail.

But even if I was calling for immediate secession, that would not be calling for the “overthrow of the USA.” Secession is not overthrow. It is not revolution. It is the leaving of a territory from a previous political bond while leaving the previous bond intact among the remaining constituent territories. The USA would still be a functioning entity if a state or states left.

It is not my fault that you were taught only the victor’s version of history when you were in school in Ohio (Southern Ohio was a hotbed of Copperhead support for the South BTW.) and hence are horrified when confronted with real history. You claim to oh so love your country, but what you really love is a myth. You don’t love the actually history of your country. You love the myth constructed by the victors.

A simple phone call from Ken or Ralph asking me to step aside would have worked a lot better than attacking my integrity, which is extremely important to me. I would have still loved giving input in trying to guarantee a fair process, my math background would have caught issues with the “weighted average” method and I could have helped with publicizing the event.

As for my part, perhaps I should have just taken a deep breath and let it go.

There is an election to be had and it should be about the candidates, not Ken, Ralph or myself.

How’d you do.

Anyone calling for the overthrow of the USA is whacky at best and delusional and dangerous at worst. Throw in the ties to racism and we have a winner for worst platform plank ever.

My idea was to allow anyone who had that in escrow to attend and have 4 like Ralph mentioned, starting early. The rest of our group preferred to just wait for qualified candidates.

For me, the big reason for waiting for qualifying is that as a grass roots person, I believe it is not fair to ask for volunteers, get people excited about your campaign and donate money if you cannot personally guarantee you can pay to get on the ballot in the first place. I predict that of the 5 or 6 people claiming to be candidates, only 2 and maybe 3 are ready to write that check.

Activists time is a precious thing, candidates should not waste it exercising their own ego for vapor campaigns.

As far as the poll, it has some limited value. For one, it did boost attendance. It did highlight some interesting (and valid) signals in the statewide races. It may be of more interest who came in highest without packing the pews. That is, who was the over=riding choice for second – after everyone voted for the “one what brought them.”

But in the end this is politics. Each candidates has the raw numbers to spin any way they choose. I personally think we have 4 great candidates and that is what should be our primary concern at the moment. I realize everyone doesn’t share my opinion and they have every right to be wrong!

But this is a political blog. Politics as I’ve said many times before is about reaching 51%. I would venture that the 14th amendment has become an accepted part of the constitution to at least 99% of the American population.

So I’m here to debate the things that aren’t settled, not tilt windmills on tangential issues that most of us do not believe are the subject of debate.

Oh I forgot to mention something. I do not understand the whole issue about polls. Do people really vote for the one that they believe is favourite to win, or the candidate that reflects their own principles. Surely principles should will out every time. I would not vote for a candidate just because they are favourite to win, if they do not reflect how I would vote. The only good I see them being for a candidate is in a special election, when you are trying to see whom the second best candidate is going to be for a run-off. Did wonders for Paul Broun.

What you been smokin’, mon?