Paul Broun

I saw him a little while ago. I asked him when he was going to be sworn in. He laughed and hurried off to the floor of the House. You might check C-SPAN to see if it has happened yet.

Consider it an open thread.


    • B Balz says:

      Recently Evan Bayh agreed with Mr. Miller, to a T. I always thought Zell Miller got way too much criticism. He is a pragmatist, before his time.

      Good post Indy. US public opinion is like a hopelessly clogged pressure cooker on high heat. When it blows, nobody knows.

      Our National bipartisan disgust with gridlock, governmental inefficacy, and a general breakdown of what is acceptable (RE: Joe Stack in NOT a hero) will heave American’s into greater discord over time.

      And we will survive, a stronger Nation. I believe in the goodness and ultimate strength of America.

  1. B Balz says:


    We hear the ‘it’s legal’ justification often. I hate it.

    In this exchange between two frequent PP bloggers (names withheld) we see a discussion referencing soon-to-be former Hartsfield Airport Manager Mr. Ben Decosta’s use of a surreptitious ink pen recording device:

    H/T AJC: Full Story here

    Peach Punditeer comments:

    February 22, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    It’s my understanding that it is legal to record a phone call as long as one party of the call is aware of it. I imagine the same can be implied on listening in on a conversation as long as one party knows about it. Is it ethically questionable? Maybe, but it is certainly legal.

    In politics, and I imagine the same is true for public officeholders, always tell the truth and don’t say anything you don’t want on a billboard. That’s a good rule of thumb to follow.

    Reply 7:45 am:

    That sounds correct, so long as one party involved in the co[n]versation (sp) knows about the recording. In a scenario where someone leaves a pen on a table still recording and leaves the room while the people in the room continue to talk about private matters… if none of them know about the recording device and there’s no sign clearly posted warning that anything that goes on in that room is subject to be recorded, then it is illegal.

    We have all sorts of situations like that we have to abide by at work. From the incoming IVR system telling callers that their call may be recorded for quality assurance to even warning employees at the login screens on company owned computers that their activities – computer and telephone related – may be monitored at any time.

    MY Comments:

    In GA the law allows for the ‘one-party’ rule; one can record a conversation without the knowledge of another. This is BS, plain and simple. Though ignorance of the law is no excuse, anyone can record anyone, without the other person knowing it. Or even knowing such a thing is legal. In other words, you better not say anything you would not want repeated. HOGWASHERY.

    The law promotes, or at least allows unethical behavior, often exploited in the pol and biz arena. Mr. DeCosta’s behavior was deplorable, add to it, his imperious attitude, and guess what – NO JOB.

    Perhaps Mr. DeCosta did not violate the law, but crossing Delta like that has its’ consequences. As we enter a heated pol time, ALL candidates probably know, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY or it might be on TV.

    Bad, bad law, all recordings should be disclosed upfront.

    • GOPGeorgia says:

      To be fair and accurate, my comments had absolutely ZERO to do with the spy pen situation, except that they might be applicable there, but I was not at all discussing “that” situation

      It can be found in the thread “Ox, Towery, And The Rest Of The Story.” I was referencing the law as to if was legal for Towery to call Westmoreland with OX in the room. Towery has more or less said that is wasn’t smart to do so, and people were talking about if it was ethical or not. With Towery’s comments, I did not see the need to state if I thought it was smart to do. I did not even state if I thought it was ethical to do so.

      I just wanted to bring up another aspect that had not been discussed and spark more conversation. I still have more questions about the whole OX – Towery – Westmoreland thing. Was OX on the phone or just in the room? Did he hear one side of the conversation or both sides? I am just guessing that it wasn’t recorded.

      For the purpose of debate, let me lay out a situation where the one party law does not promote unethical behavior and in fact is used to support the rule of law. Let’s say a psycho ex-girlfriend is calling you and is calling from a pay phone to avoid caller ID or phone records. If you take advantage of this one party law and record her ranting, you now have some proof it’s her when you go to get a restraining order.

      • Republican Lady says:

        Good comments, especially when needing evidence of criminal wrongdoing. As I recall, a rape victim of Max Factor heir, Andrew Luster, called Luster with the police listening in and got him to admit he gave her the date rape drug rohypnol before raping her. Police served search and arrest warrants and found videos of numerous victims, all unconscious. Seens one victim was 12 years old. Luster was charged with 84 rape counts and got 124 years in prison. Had it not been for the one party law, he might have gotten away.

        Also, didn’t Monica Lewinsky’s friend record the phone call from Monica that brought down Bill Clinton? Seems the woman got in trouble because she was in a state or maybe the DC district that did not allow for the one party law.

    • Hi B Balz,

      As someone who has interviewed people for publication, I have taped people without their knowledge in case what I wrote was disputed and to ensure accuracy on my part, too. I kept all “off the record” requests, but I never concerned myself with legal taping of conversations as a matter of ethics because it was for a good purpose.

      I would not; however, release any of that to the public – unless required in a court case.

      So, I think the morality of the question goes to purpose: Why is the conversation being recorded?

      • B Balz says:

        @GAGOP Durn blogs and ‘net, so easy to confuse what one is saying. Regrets I misinterpreted your comments, your point WAS written in the context of the thread.

        As to the psycho-ex [insert gender here] call situation, I believe any Court would find it compelling to note that despite being warned the call is recorded the caller went off the deep end anyway.

        Crazy people could care less if they are recorded, would probably like it, if they are narcissistic. But I do hear your point. It is a ‘greater good’ question as to ‘who benefits’. IMHO, this benefits the person who knows the law and is unscrupulous.

        @Ken Welcome Back! You were legal in doing so, but if I had found out, it would have been your last interview. If you disclosed, you would gain my trust by following through and not releasing the tape.

        In the business world, lack of disclosure is a sure fire reason to lose a State issued license. Real estate, for example. It is a high standard for such a routine business activity.

        In a situation where the stakes are higher (interviews, high level pol or biz discussions) the law doesn’t require disclosure. That seems inconsistent to me.

        • ByteMe says:

          BB: I can see why you thought we would have something interesting in common other than being interested in politics.

        • GOPGeorgia says:

          Let’s visit the psycho-ex [insert gender here] call situation again. Let’s assume that the caller does have their wits about them and hangs up if you mention you are recording the call. Let’s also assume that it’s not the first call you have received and they make threats against you. Georgia has a “terroristic threat” law that says you can’t threaten someone with bodily harm if you have reason to think that they might go through with it. By recording the call, you have gathered proof that the law was broken and now have something to prosecute with. I am sure that there are better reasons for the “one party” law, but this type of example makes sense to me.

          • B Balz says:

            For example, when we spoke, if I recorded the conversation, would you have said anything differently? If you told me I was being recorded, would I have said anything differently?

            There are always exceptions–especially when dealing with crazy people, but overall this law encourages bad behavior. If you recorded me, and I did not know it, and you replayed my discussions to others, well that is bad behavior. Or vice-versa.

          • GOPGeorgia says:

            I would not have said anything differently. I was talking to someone who I didn’t know that well who likes to blog.

            And I recorded our conversation….j/k….probably…lol.

            I think it’s a good law. We’ll have to disagree one this one. I cite “republican lady’s example as a better example than my previous one. It was real and it caught someone doing something that they should not have done.

            It made me think of this. I have personally met a rapist and a victim before the crime occurred. When the rapist was apologizing to the victim (over the phone) and wanting to know how he could make it right, the victim recorded the conversation. The offender went to jail. These people don’t live in the Southeast, so you probably wouldn’t know them.

            Now do you think the victim should have told the rapist, “btw, the I’m recording this?”

          • GOPGeorgia says:

            I’m not sure what that errant “the” is doing in my last sentence. I may have started to say something else and changed my mind, or started to spell out “by the way.” It’s beem a long week.

  2. B Balz says:

    Personally I like Lord B Balz, but others might find it a bit pretentious….

    The ‘one-party’ issue AND anonymous campaign mailing laws BOTH stink.

    • polisavvy says:

      Believe me, that was no accident. I personally find your points to be very valid and wise. It does reek of impropriety. Too bad, that’s a point you’ll never get most people to see.

    • GOPGeorgia says:

      I agree with you on anonymous campaign mailing. It should not happen, but the receiver of the mailing can evaluate how much credence to give said mail piece if the sender won’t put their name to it.

      • B Balz says:

        You give your neighbor more credit than I do. Although, that is a pretty good point. In reality, I have seen last minute mailings go out, and people are stirred up by them.

  3. John Konop says:

    Pew Study Finds States Face $1 Trillion Shortfall in Retiree Benefits

    And this does not include Federal liabilities like Medicare, Social Security…….

    PEW…. Georgia is one of 29 states to set aside any assets to cover long-term liabilities for retiree health care and other benefits, although only 4 percent of the total $19.1 billion cost has been funded…………….

    PEW-There was a $1 trillion gap at the end of fiscal year 2008 between the $2.35 trillion states had set aside to pay for employees’ retirement benefits and the $3.35 trillion price tag of those promises, according to a new report released by the Pew Center on the States. The shortfall, which will have to be paid over the next 30 years by state and local governments, amounts to more than $8,800 for every household in the United States.

    The figures detailed in Pew’s report, “The Trillion Dollar Gap,” include pension, health care and other non-pension benefits promised to both current and future retirees in states’ and participating localities’ public sector retirement systems……

  4. polisavvy says:

    Since this is an open thread, might I ask you guys to ponder this: As long as health care seems to be the major focus in D.C., do you think it’s time for Congress to either make a decision one way or the other, as soon as possible, in order for them to focus on the economy? In my opinion, for whatever it’s worth, until this is decided upon (right, wrong, or indifferent), there will be no progress on any other fronts. Something’s got to give!

    • No progress on any other fronts? I beg to differ! There’s plenty of progress… why just look at this…

      H. CON. RES. 227 – January 13, 2010:

      Whereas National Urban Crimes Awareness Week will be celebrated the second week in February 2010;

      Whereas 48,430 violent crimes occured in New York City in 2008, compared to 28,941 in non-New York City counties;

      Whereas an estimated 1,382, 012 violent crimes occurred nationwide in 2008;

      ….I, for one, am certainly glad to see that our elected representatives have set aside time, not to combat crime, but to make sure that we spend a full week being aware of it.

      (end sarcasm)

      • polisavvy says:

        Hysterically funny post! Have you seen the AJC about the sick dude running for Richardson’s seat? If not, go read it. You’ll probably think “The Graduate” and “Mrs. Robinson. Gross!!!! Sick!!!! Vomit!!!!

      • David!

        You failed to mention that back in December my own Congressman Jim Marshall (D-GA8) introduced legislation to rename the Ocmulgee National Monument the Ocmulgee Mounds National Monument.

        This is the first actual bill that Representative Marshall has actually introduced that came to a debate or a vote. It only took him seven years to do so. The first 20 bills he introduced were never even discussed. I guess they were practice bills for this recent bill renaming an historical site. It must have been urgent, too – the site has only been there for 12,000 to 17,000 years – and was much more important than our national debt or joblessness or any of the other things that Congress could have been dealing with.

    • ByteMe says:

      Actually, they already have a “jobs bill” that I think made it through the House. And they were working on a financial reregulation bill, but Wall Street lobbyists got their fingers on it and now it’s not moving again.

      And as many will tell you, getting health care under control is about the economy. They’re just doing it in a politically expedient way instead of just blowing up the health insurance companies. They also are trying to lure Republicans into going along. The (D)’s are better at governing than they are at street fighting; this is going to be a street fight.

    • Game Fan says:

      No, no NO! (again, the Charlton Heston voice) Congress should focus on health care for as long as possible. Because it looks like they’re spinning their wheels with this stuff. 🙂 And I don’t suppose anyone believed me back a couple of years ago when I said a possible future President Obama could be neutralized on health care even with a Republican minority. Aaaanyway, the LAST thing this country needs is the DC crowd focusing on the economy. MY GOD. So ya wanna “fix” the economy from DC and ya wanna be aware of crime, eh? How about “doing your part ta “take a bite outta crime” and fix the economy by focusing on the High crimes taking place on a daily basis in DC. Otherwise the LAST thing I wanna see is some “coat and tie” from DC to the rescue. What a sick bunch of JACKASS FOOLS!

  5. Buzzfan says:

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    • polisavvy says:

      I wish you the absolute best. Having been blessed enough to have two healthy children, I commend you on your undertaking. I have read your website. We will be donating. Wonderful news about Chayton! Keep up the good work for all these precious children. You are earning stars in your crown!!

  6. IndyInjun says:

    I would hated to have died and not known exactly how bad this situation is. It is a terrible situation. I am not articulate enough or young enough, or strong enough to tell the American people just how bad it is. But some day somebody will come along and will be able to do that and when they do the American people are going to rise up and run both these teams (parties) off the field…… – Zell Miller

    I think that day is upon us, because too many feel they cannot afford to stay on the sidelines any longer.

    • polisavvy says:

      I agree with you, Indy. I highly respect Zell Miller. The time is here and the time is now. I think that’s why more people are showing interest in elections, particularly this Governor’s race. There is a whole lot at stake with Georgia’s success or failure on the line. Rhetoric should end and the real meat and potato issues should be addressed. If people attend meetings where candidates are present, then the candidates need to be put on the spot, asked the tough questions, and the people asking should expect a real answer. No more bios need be recited. If there’s a way to save a penny, then a penny should be saved.

      Sorry for the rant, but I think that people really need to focus on how to move Georgia forward, instead of Georgia spinning her wheels and slipping backwards.

    • B Balz says:

      That WAS a great quote from former Gov. Miller, Indy. Glad you you provided the transcription.

      When 10 million middle class Americans peacefully march upon WDC, we will see action. When 3 million Georgian’s peacefully march upon the Gold Dome, we will see action.

      The time has come for the Old Guard and the Far Left to recognize the time to put away ‘childish things’ is upon us. The time is now for the business of the People.

      Math does not lie, it is objective, immutable and exponentially sensitive to time. Budget crises, debt, falling revenues, corporate welfare and entitlements, unemployment must all be dealt with a holistic, pragmatic approach. Lack of attention to our financial issues will soon reduce America’s quality of living to the lowest common denominator.

      I challenge anyone to suggest that when young men like Jace Walden and all of our soldiers in harms way are doing their Duty, we should not be doing ours. Our Duty as citizens is to make sure our legislators know our concerns. Not a handful of politically active folks, but millions of Americans, speaking coherently, peacefully, and loudly. Silence is consent.

      Will we slip silently into the night, as a Nation?.

      Not on my watch.

      • polisavvy says:

        That was a wonderful post, B Balze. Very blunt and very to the point. Oh, you’re so correct, it’s coming and coming faster than a lot of folk think. We all need to communicate with our elected officials. We need to let them know that we’re watching and either liking what we’re seeing or not so much. They work for us. We pay their salaries. They owe us the best job that they are capable of giving us and, if they don’t do their best, they are expendable and can be replaced by our voices.

    • IndyInjun says:


      Broun is clearly a fiscal and social conservative. He is the closest to Republican principles out of the entire Georgia delegation.

      That being said, he has endorsed Deal, probably because Deal contributed heavily to him when he desperately needed funds. He endorses RINOS. Does that make him a RINO? I say not.

      Wacko fits his affinity for the Fair???tax.

      • Indy,

        I think the endorsement is that “fellow Congressman” thing.

        I agree Westmoreland isn’t a RINO. I wish I could honestly say that about more elected Republicans.

    • IndyInjun says:

      What “it” did you know?…..too many “its” are in my realm of probabilities….. is your ‘it’ in my set or a subset of it?

  7. slyram says:

    Some folks could learn a lot about winning elections from Paul Broun. Jim Whitehead’s chances were strong but someone didn’t capitalize on Whitehead’s job creation record in his tire business and the fact that Whitehead had several Black managers—I saw their pictures on the company webpage. Wow, these guys likely worked their ways up in the company and having them on an ad could have tipped the balance in the special election.

    Broun knew that people appreciated his father’s public service in the Athens area and properly used that name recognition to his advantage in the Black community. Some of those people must be a little surprised by Broun ultra-right vibe because when you meet him he seems like an okay guy. Those DC handlers are on him in the same way the left handlers wrapped their arms around Rep. McKinney and pulled her farther left…if that was possible. Again, nice person pulled by the dark side of the force.

    I think the same thing about W Bush. Blacks from Texas said the guy had a good reputation for building consensus in Austin. But, those cats that funded his campaign pulled him into what he became. He still is a good dude and did more in Africa than Clinton.

    I never thought Obama was a real D party man; he had to be in a party to become president. It was Hillary’s turn and Edwards was more of a party loyalist with big labor. But, Obama was the one who could win because the Right hated Hillary for some reason. (Real southern gentlemen don’t slam women the way folks did Hillary—I respect Palin no matter what.)

    The more people learned about Hillary, the more they learned that she was real people and smart as a whip. President Obama ran on change this and that but the change was not just away from the Bush years. I always knew he was also talking about change from the wrongful actions of traditional Democrats. If the Obama, Scott Brown, the senators from Maine and the Blue Dogs get together, they could really do sometimes and tick off party people on both sides while improving America.

  8. John Konop says:

    If the GOP runs on vouchers it will be a death march!

    Education official: Consider reducing 180-day school year

    by Jim Galloway

    Wrapping up a morning of hearings on the state’s 2011 budget and the monster cuts that could come with it, Scott Austensen, the deputy state school superintendent for finance, touched not one, but two third-rails of Georgia politics.

    First, he told lawmakers at the Capitol, the state needs to look at reducing the 180-days of instruction now required for K-12 students. Secondly, lottery money could be used to offset some technology expenditures in public schools – something lawmakers haven’t approved in years.

    Afterwards, in a scrum with reporters, Austensen said that, depending on the severity of cuts to come, budget writers need to look beyond the teacher-training days now used for mandatory time off:

    “Thus far, the six-day furloughs have come out of professional development days because – by law – even though the governor [declared]the furlough days, he didn’t change the requirement of 180 days or the equivalent…

    “We’re suggesting looking at how deep those cuts may be. If it’s another six days, well, maybe that’s professional development. But if it’s going to be more than six days, we need to look at giving school systems the ability and flexibility to reduce some of those 180 days.”

    • ByteMe says:

      Yep, short-change our kids by screwing their teachers, but don’t you dare raise our taxes!


      The brain trust in the Georgia Legislature is missing a few billion cells.

      • polisavvy says:

        What are these people thinking (or are they)? I realize that there have to be cuts to Georgia’s budget; but, taking away from the education of our children does not make too much sense to me. I know it’s corny and cliche; however, they are the future of Georgia. When I hit my golden oldie years (which really aren’t that far away), I’d prefer the ones who were handling the affairs of the State would be well-educated.

        • Mozart says:

          “our kids” and “our children”

          Glad to see the collectivists have succeeded in making otherwise clear-headed people think that the responsibility for raising children has been transferred from “my children” to “our children.” Hillary Clinton is proud that the “village” is more important than the individual.

          • ByteMe says:

            Ah, another “I go it alone in this world” person. Lovely.

            Think about how many “other people’s kids” affect your life every day and whether you want them to be smarter than a fifth grader or dumb as an Ox.

          • polisavvy says:

            Oh well, I see where you’re heading with this day. Too bad you don’t seem to understand that I don’t feel it’s my duty to raise or educate someone else children, I do feel a sense of responsibility to look out for them being well-educated because one day, when all of us on here now, are old we will be dependent upon the decisions made by them. The generation before me paid for my children to be educated (except for the two years of private school). Right, wrong, or indifferent each and every time we pay most taxes, we are investing in their education (the village).

            Education can’t go it alone and it needs our help (money). That’s the point I was making and am sorry if I hit a “village” nerve.

          • polisavvy says:

            Mozart, hope I didn’t sound mean or rude. I didn’t mean to do so. Had a rough night. Found out that a very dear friend of mine was just diagnosed with brain cancer and his time is very limited. Once again, sorry if the post was snide.

          • Mozart says:

            Poli, don’t go worrying about anything you say to me. I’m a big boy, and I do not consider well-thought out rebuttals to be “offensive.”

            Note to ByteMe: I said “well thought-out.” 😉

          • Mozart says:


            If Adam Smith was alive today, he wouldn’t be too keen on how the public school system is being run in this country right now. Just because someone may have had an “original idea” about a specific subject, you cannot presume to think they would be happy with every possible form of it.

            By your thinking, Adam Smith would be in favor of Communism and its emphasis on public-schools. The Communist Manifesto, by the by, wasn’t written until after Adam Smith’s time.

          • ByteMe says:

            Note back to Mozart: I’ll produce one when you do.

            Do explain how you live alone in this world and interact with no one. If you can’t explain that, do explain how you think that you aren’t responsible — through the societal community expression called “government” — to make sure that all kids get a good education and become productive members of society. You act like it’s not your fault when the government isn’t what you want it to be.

          • ByteMe – where do you get this whole “live alone in this world” idea from? I don’t think any of us are advocating that everyone get their own planet. We’re simply saying parents should be responsible for their own kids. Those kids will still be able to interact with each other. (You realize there’s more than one person at each private school, right?) Likewise, those parents will still go to work, earn a paycheck, pay for their family’s needs, interact with other families, etc. The only difference is who you place the various responsibilities of raising children on. If you’re not able to afford to educate your kids or feed your kids or provide shelter for them or clothe them…. should you really be having kids? I’m sorry if you don’t think I’m being “fair”, but I don’t think it’s fair for anyone to expect me to take care of a child that they willingly brought into this world.

          • ByteMe says:


            First of all, I’m not sure you get to speak for Mozart unless that’s one of your aliases (which I sincerely doubt).

            As to your points, this is where “Libertarian theory” blows up in the face of societal reality. What you are proposing sounds like theory, but it’s not the reality of any neighborhood, city, town, or country I’ve ever been in. Every parent in my neighborhood knows to watch out for every child in the neighborhood and to watch out for people who enter the neighborhood who we don’t know. Do we take care of our own kids? Sure. But we’ve also made a societal pact that we as a group can do an even better job if we share the load with others in our neighborhood/town/city/country. So we do. You don’t want to? That’s your choice, of course.

            But I’m still — by force of gun if necessary — going to be part of a society that takes money from you to make sure all the kids get what they need from school. You can certainly try to convince people to do otherwise, but so far not enough people want to embrace your theory.

          • You hit the nail right on the head here…

            “Every parent in my neighborhood knows to watch out for every child in the neighborhood and to watch out for people who enter the neighborhood who we don’t know.”

            Every *PARENT*. So what about people that don’t have kids? You don’t break into their house and drag them out into the street to watch out for everyones’ kids as well? Why not?

          • ByteMe says:

            We have two houses in our small neighborhood who do not have kids, one of whom has never been a parent… and yet they are just as involved with making sure our neighborhood stays safe for ourselves and our kids. They choose to do that because they get that our kids’ safety and our neighborhood safety has immense value to them.

          • B Balz says:


            There is no need to compel non-parents to watch out for their neighbors kids -It is a function of civilized society.

          • Again, my whole issue here is choice. Your neighbors *choose* to actively participate. Just as I believe people should be able to *choose* whether to donate to take care of other kids or whether to send their money towards cancer research or any other charity that they prefer. But to *make* someone pay thousands of dollars a year towards the public school system when they put no burden on it is immoral – much more so than selling me a bottle of wine on Sundays at Publix.

          • B Balz – agreed. We keep an eye out for anything strange going on in our neighborhood… voluntarily. My issue isn’t what people should do, but forcing people to do what you think they should, even if it means dipping into their pockets.

          • ByteMe says:

            Just because you claim something is “immoral” doesn’t make it immoral.

            In fact, if you ask someone who is truly religious in the Judeo-Christian vein, they would tell you that it is immoral not to care for the weakest amongst us. And your theory that gutting public education is somehow a good thing would fall well into that “immoral” area.

            See? Anyone can make the claim. 🙂

          • Yes, and it could also be called stealing. Again, voluntarily taking care of the weakest is different than violating one of those ten commandments that some hold so dear. If you don’t understand the difference between someone voluntarily contributing and being forced to contribute, just go ask the Ox… I’m sure he’ll be happy to explain the difference.

            • Speaking of the Christian vein, I believe Jesus instructed his followers and churches to take care of the weak. I don’t recall anything about him telling the governing politicians of that time that it was their job. Nor do I remember him telling followers to make sure that this was done through force by enacting laws that required that it be so. Christians should voluntarily be taking care of the weak. But then again, if they were really doing as Christ instructed, welfare shouldn’t really be an issue… right?

    • Republican Lady says:

      With Georgia being about 46 out of 50, depending on which article one reads, how about revamping the educational system to make productive budget cuts?

      What do you think about this? Go to class three full months, take a three or four week break, then repeat. Jan-March, on, April off, May-July on, August off, Sept-Nov, December off.

      I think one of educational problems is summer break. That is too long a period to be out of school for kids. They have to get back into the groove of going to bed, getting up early and relearn lost study habits. Summer is educational dead time for most kids and the first month back is spent on relearning what was lost over that time period.

      If there is three months on, say three weeks off with reading assignments or other work, then back on year round, there are resources saved without as much educational penalty penalty to kids.

      Just a thought.

      • polisavvy says:

        Pretty good idea, Lady. I think it could work. As for the summer, my kids never really got to enjoy their summers because of reading assignments, particularly by the time middle and high school rolled around. That’s one way to keep their brains working during the summer is to assign “summer reading.” It keeps the kids thinking and doesn’t cost a dime.

  9. Progressive Dem says:

    I thought the R’s were the party of law and order.

    Sen. John Douglas (R-Social Circle) laid out the stark situation as he questioned Col. Bill Hitchens, commissioner of the Department of Public Safety. “More cuts, more cuts, more cuts are going to further degrade our ability to provide for the public safety?” Douglas asked.
    “That’s correct,” Hitchens said. Hitchens told another legislator that Georgia has the least number of troopers of any state in the nation on a per capita basis. “We’d have to triple our size to come up to the national average,” he said.

    I hope Sonny wasn’t counting on the Super Speeder revenues.

  10. John Konop says:

    Gregg, Wyden Offer Plan to Simplify U.S. Tax Code

    Looks like a good idea!

    WSJ-Two senators Tuesday introduced a proposal to vastly simplify the nation’s tax code by cutting the number of income tax brackets in half and flattening the corporate tax rate.

    The plan put forth by Sens. Judd Gregg (R., N.H.) and Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) would lower the number of marginal income tax rates to three: 15%, 25% and 35%. It also would eliminate the alternative minimum tax, which lawmakers scramble to “patch” each year in order to minimize its impact on middle-income taxpayers.

    The plan would create a single corporate income tax rate of 24%, but allow small businesses with receipts of up to $1 million to expense all of its equipment and inventory costs.

    The plan would target “direct payments and indirect subsidies to businesses each year,” but would leave it to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office to identify “the least productive” of those subsidies. Politically, that would be a tough task, as lawmakers fiercely guard subsidies that benefit their states and districts.

    President Barack Obama has also called for tax simplification, and last year he tapped former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker to head a task force on the issue. That task force hasn’t issued any recommendations, however.

    In a statement, Messrs. Gregg and Wyden said they were aiming to alleviate the headache the tax code causes individuals and businesses trying to sort through its minutiae.

    “For far too long, our tax system has been overly complicated, burdensome and unfair to taxpayers and to small businesses that are the economic engines of our nation,” Mr. Gregg said in a statement.

    Messrs. Gregg and Wyden assert that the average individual or family earning less than $200,000 would do “as well or better” under their plan than current tax law, in large part because the plan would nearly triple the standard deduction.

    “Many taxpayers who currently itemize will find it more advantageous to switch to the standard deduction which will both reduce their tax bills and eliminate the burden of maintaining records and receipts needed to document itemized deductions,” the plan states. Most taxpayers would be able to use a one-page form to submit their taxes, according to Messrs. Wyden and Gregg.

    The capital gains tax also would see broad changes under the plan. The legislation would exempt the first 35% of capital gains income from the tax. Also, the first $500,000 of investment would be held for at least six months to be considered long-term capital gains income, and the next $500,000 would have to be held for a year to be considered long-term.

    • polisavvy says:

      Makes one wonder what Volcker and company have been doing, doesn’t it? As far as the tax break to small businesses, well that certainly would be good news to my husband who owns a small business. Anything to help simply tax returns is a blessing. I think Greg’s and Wyden’s idea is strong. It also shows that Democrats and Republicans can/could work together to help solve the issues this country is facing. These are just my opinions for whatever they are worth. By the way, thanks for this post.

    • polisavvy says:

      That is hysterical!! Enjoyed the read. I can’t believe someone actually researched this one — I thought that was common knowledge among women with curves. Very funny, indeed. Thanks for the laughter.

  11. HankRearden says:

    Why is the story of Daniel Stout winning Glenn Richardson’s old seat not on the front page??? Why do the people of Dallas, GA elect these people???

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