Comments on: Oxendine: Withdraw And Resign http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/ Fresh Political Pickins From The Peach State Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:22:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: B Balz http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214770 B Balz Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:41:53 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214770 I ask for more on SEUS, and the nice folks over at AJC provide: http://www.ajc.com/business/insolvent-insurer-is-focus-319843.html The interesting thing about ALL of this, is I recall a PP blogger announcing, almost a month ago, a scenario whereby Mr. Oxendine will be seen as the protector of the Public Good on this issue. Whoever you are, take a bow! Unless this story is debunked (I doubt that) it is going to play to the public, boys and girls. I ask for more on SEUS, and the nice folks over at AJC provide:

http://www.ajc.com/business/insolvent-insurer-is-focus-319843.html

The interesting thing about ALL of this, is I recall a PP blogger announcing, almost a month ago, a scenario whereby Mr. Oxendine will be seen as the protector of the Public Good on this issue. Whoever you are, take a bow!

Unless this story is debunked (I doubt that) it is going to play to the public, boys and girls.

]]> By: polisavvy http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214767 polisavvy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:37:17 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214767 Got 'cha! They do seem to be sliding down a slippery slope at times, don't they? Got ‘cha! They do seem to be sliding down a slippery slope at times, don’t they?

]]> By: IndyInjun http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214733 IndyInjun Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:52:17 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214733 <i>Do you think going to Elton Johns Party was an accident = Democratic Gays are November voters too.</i> The same Elton John who said: <blockquote>Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man</blockquote>????? That oughta go over big with the socons in the REPUBLICAN party! Do you think going to Elton Johns Party was an accident = Democratic Gays are November voters too.

The same Elton John who said:

Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man

?????

That oughta go over big with the socons in the REPUBLICAN party!

]]> By: Technocrat http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214726 Technocrat Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:40:35 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214726 As someone who had premium company cars [replaced every 3 years] during 1967-1996. I can assure you the GA state version Crown Vic is far from a lux vehicle even with leather seats and a cd player they cost ~ $19-21K Research where these old 100,000+ milers go [to the state fire marshal], then hand me downs to lesser state officals within the department until totalled or exhausted around 300,000 miles. The elected Commissioner takes the heat for a new car so others can cycle them down............. not why did so and so get a new car. Visit the state garage and view the pristine lux fleet. Check the mileage logs [public records] to see where and how OX has driven 30k + each and every of the previous 15 years to visit voters and help them during disasters and compare that to the other state officals. He has always been running for Governor even 15 years ago. Now the STARS are Aligned. Do you think going to Elton Johns Party was an accident = Democratic Gays are November voters too. As someone who had premium company cars [replaced every 3 years] during 1967-1996.
I can assure you the GA state version Crown Vic is far from a lux vehicle even with leather seats and a cd player they cost ~ $19-21K
Research where these old 100,000+ milers go [to the state fire marshal], then hand me downs to lesser state officals within the department until totalled or exhausted around 300,000 miles.

The elected Commissioner takes the heat for a new car so others can cycle them down…………. not why did so and so get a new car.

Visit the state garage and view the pristine lux fleet. Check the mileage logs [public records] to see where and how OX has driven 30k + each and every of the previous 15 years to visit voters and help them during disasters and compare that to the other state officals.

He has always been running for Governor even 15 years ago. Now the STARS are Aligned.
Do you think going to Elton Johns Party was an accident = Democratic Gays are November voters too.

]]> By: polisavvy http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214701 polisavvy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:11:15 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214701 Great thought, David Staples. The reasoning behind Representative Scott even wanting this was to create a paper trial. Presently there is none. Your idea would work as well provided it could be used on the scantron-type machines that most of the counties already have; otherwise, there would be an additional expense that most counties can't afford. Great thought, David Staples. The reasoning behind Representative Scott even wanting this was to create a paper trial. Presently there is none. Your idea would work as well provided it could be used on the scantron-type machines that most of the counties already have; otherwise, there would be an additional expense that most counties can’t afford.

]]> By: B Balz http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214687 B Balz Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:40:50 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214687 No offense taken Indy. I left you a post under the Ga Gang thread. No offense taken Indy. I left you a post under the Ga Gang thread.

]]> By: David Staples http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214684 David Staples Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:39:05 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214684 Personally, I'd like to see an electronic system like we currently use but with the addition of a small printer added so that there's at least a paper trail. After a bit of thought, I'm not sure whether I'd favor printing the actual candidates the person voted for or a bar code or a confirmation number or whatever, and who would be responsible for holding on to those. I guess a QR code would probably be best (similar to a bar code) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code - so that only authorized people / systems could decode them to determine how an individual voted... and this would be deposited into a sealed box of some sort that could be opened and scanned later if results needed to be verified. Just a thought... Personally, I’d like to see an electronic system like we currently use but with the addition of a small printer added so that there’s at least a paper trail. After a bit of thought, I’m not sure whether I’d favor printing the actual candidates the person voted for or a bar code or a confirmation number or whatever, and who would be responsible for holding on to those. I guess a QR code would probably be best (similar to a bar code) – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code – so that only authorized people / systems could decode them to determine how an individual voted… and this would be deposited into a sealed box of some sort that could be opened and scanned later if results needed to be verified. Just a thought…

]]> By: IndyInjun http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214674 IndyInjun Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:42:05 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214674 BB, I was not aiming at you in any sense or even your message, just commenting on an interpretation that your message imported to me. BB,

I was not aiming at you in any sense or even your message, just commenting on an interpretation that your message imported to me.

]]> By: polisavvy http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214672 polisavvy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:29:04 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214672 To say that Austin Scott is awkward is sort of a personal attack. I didn't know he needed to be a stand-up comedian. I've heard him debate, I've seen him give speeches, and I've had the opportunity to speak with him. Let's look at your criteria number by number: (1) experience -- you don't think that 14 years of legislative experience is enough, plus you don't think that him running a successful business is enough; (2) as far as fundraising goes, he ain't done yet (once the session ends, his money will go up); (3) polls, really? You mean the polls that show Ox sliding, the one based on name recognition alone?; and (4) presence -- have you actually tried to have a one on one conversation with the man? If not, I suggest one. He speak with total sincerity and conviction. He's more than legitimate. He has no baggage, he has no past that can bite him in the butt, he's a God-fearing man who takes no money from lobbyists, he's made his way without being bought and sold. He's is own man. To say that Austin Scott is awkward is sort of a personal attack. I didn’t know he needed to be a stand-up comedian. I’ve heard him debate, I’ve seen him give speeches, and I’ve had the opportunity to speak with him. Let’s look at your criteria number by number: (1) experience — you don’t think that 14 years of legislative experience is enough, plus you don’t think that him running a successful business is enough; (2) as far as fundraising goes, he ain’t done yet (once the session ends, his money will go up); (3) polls, really? You mean the polls that show Ox sliding, the one based on name recognition alone?; and (4) presence — have you actually tried to have a one on one conversation with the man? If not, I suggest one. He speak with total sincerity and conviction.

He’s more than legitimate. He has no baggage, he has no past that can bite him in the butt, he’s a God-fearing man who takes no money from lobbyists, he’s made his way without being bought and sold. He’s is own man.

]]> By: polisavvy http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214671 polisavvy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:20:53 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214671 Just so you know, the only reason he is suggesting this is because with the voting machines we presently use, there is no paper trial. Other states have machines where paper ballots are used that have no issues with hanging chad because it is a type of scantron. (Just so you know the plural of chad is chad, there is no "s" on the end). The expense would be minimal since many counties have those already for absentee ballots. Just so you know, the only reason he is suggesting this is because with the voting machines we presently use, there is no paper trial. Other states have machines where paper ballots are used that have no issues with hanging chad because it is a type of scantron. (Just so you know the plural of chad is chad, there is no “s” on the end). The expense would be minimal since many counties have those already for absentee ballots.

]]> By: B Balz http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214655 B Balz Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:57:21 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214655 Pragmatic and true, Grit. Pragmatic and true, Grit.

]]> By: B Balz http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214647 B Balz Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:36:40 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214647 @Indy My comment reflects actual voter feedback from a NE Atlanta social event. I am only the messenger, amigo. If y'all want to do a bit of investigative journalism how about researching the current use of the Insurance Premium Tax? How about discussing why Mr. Oxendine's office has not pursued funding of the existing High Risk insurance pool? That would help many Georgians who need it most. Like folks who do not have healthcare insurance and are sick. Those folks vote, and would support a candidate who came out strong for a High Risk Insurance pool that was affordable and useful. (Heck, even Alabama has pooled High Risk Insurance !!!) Instead, I keep hearing nonsense about misuse of cars; while somewhat an indication of character, it is silly and won't matter. Sadly, we almost expect this sort of hubris from Big Shots. We spent twenty days legally dissecting the technical requirements of hunter education. A child had hunting accident, which gladly did not result in any real harm. Again, this issue will not affect a nomination. Embarrassing? Yes. Relevant, NO! And the big enchilada: $120,000 in campaign funds, inappropriately accounted for. That IS a big deal, but the money was returned. Voters will not care. SEUS? Ahhhhh, tell me more. If you all want to affect an outcome, DIG! @Indy My comment reflects actual voter feedback from a NE Atlanta social event. I am only the messenger, amigo.

If y’all want to do a bit of investigative journalism how about researching the current use of the Insurance Premium Tax?

How about discussing why Mr. Oxendine’s office has not pursued funding of the existing High Risk insurance pool?

That would help many Georgians who need it most. Like folks who do not have healthcare insurance and are sick. Those folks vote, and would support a candidate who came out strong for a High Risk Insurance pool that was affordable and useful. (Heck, even Alabama has pooled High Risk Insurance !!!)

Instead, I keep hearing nonsense about misuse of cars; while somewhat an indication of character, it is silly and won’t matter. Sadly, we almost expect this sort of hubris from Big Shots.

We spent twenty days legally dissecting the technical requirements of hunter education. A child had hunting accident, which gladly did not result in any real harm. Again, this issue will not affect a nomination. Embarrassing? Yes. Relevant, NO!

And the big enchilada: $120,000 in campaign funds, inappropriately accounted for. That IS a big deal, but the money was returned. Voters will not care.

SEUS? Ahhhhh, tell me more.

If you all want to affect an outcome, DIG!

]]> By: IndyInjun http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214629 IndyInjun Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:43:17 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214629 <i>A lot of folks can attest that Mr. Oxendine helped them with this, that, or the other insurance matter, personally.</i> In other words, he allows insurance companies to run amok, creating the need for 'special' intervention, then provides it? Some testimonial, that! A lot of folks can attest that Mr. Oxendine helped them with this, that, or the other insurance matter, personally.

In other words, he allows insurance companies to run amok, creating the need for ‘special’ intervention, then provides it?

Some testimonial, that!

]]> By: polisavvy http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214621 polisavvy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:21:17 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214621 I agree with you about women in politics; however, look at some of the women who are in the news daily about some of the stupid things they as politicians say and do (Pelosi, Boxer). If anything, it could hurt her. Though she's a Republican, there are many here in the South who won't vote for her because of her sex. I don't get that. I never vote based on gender and don't understand those who do. I vote for the person I think would represent me the best. She's not my choice; however, I wish her the best, as I wish the best for her supporters. I agree with you about women in politics; however, look at some of the women who are in the news daily about some of the stupid things they as politicians say and do (Pelosi, Boxer). If anything, it could hurt her. Though she’s a Republican, there are many here in the South who won’t vote for her because of her sex. I don’t get that. I never vote based on gender and don’t understand those who do. I vote for the person I think would represent me the best. She’s not my choice; however, I wish her the best, as I wish the best for her supporters.

]]> By: Republican Lady http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214614 Republican Lady Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:03:24 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214614 Thanks Poli. Some people won't vote for her because of she is a woman, some won't vote for her because of the "paper" issue, but I feel a great deal of voters will support her because of her ethics, experience, and she is a fresh face in politics. Women are sorely under-represented in politics and I believe some of the "good ole boys" will fight to keep it that way, and that is why the high school issue is starting to pop up again. If it shows up in print often enough, people will start to believe it and I can't let that happen. When I see a lie in print, I will counter it. I don't even know Karen that well, just from seeing her talk at different places. I have heard the other candidates speak and Karen impressed me with her no-nonsense attitude, so she gets my full support. Thanks Poli. Some people won’t vote for her because of she is a woman, some won’t vote for her because of the “paper” issue, but I feel a great deal of voters will support her because of her ethics, experience, and she is a fresh face in politics.

Women are sorely under-represented in politics and I believe some of the “good ole boys” will fight to keep it that way, and that is why the high school issue is starting to pop up again. If it shows up in print often enough, people will start to believe it and I can’t let that happen. When I see a lie in print, I will counter it.

I don’t even know Karen that well, just from seeing her talk at different places. I have heard the other candidates speak and Karen impressed me with her no-nonsense attitude, so she gets my full support.

]]> By: edmund http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214596 edmund Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:36:49 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214596 Full of sound and fury; signifying nothing. Full of sound and fury; signifying nothing.

]]> By: polisavvy http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214593 polisavvy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:27:10 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214593 @ BBalz, I'm not so sure that PP is necessarily bashing the Ox as much as they are revealing all his missteps and ethics (or lack thereof). We are the ones who are really bashing the most. Yes, there has been a little too much (on occasions) of supporting a particular candidate; but, at the end of the day, without them revealing some of the stories they have about Ox, we may not have been aware of them at all. The Towery story may have never even seen the light of date. @ BBalz, I’m not so sure that PP is necessarily bashing the Ox as much as they are revealing all his missteps and ethics (or lack thereof). We are the ones who are really bashing the most. Yes, there has been a little too much (on occasions) of supporting a particular candidate; but, at the end of the day, without them revealing some of the stories they have about Ox, we may not have been aware of them at all. The Towery story may have never even seen the light of date.

]]> By: B Balz http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214590 B Balz Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:21:59 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214590 What fishtail said. What fishtail said.

]]> By: B Balz http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214589 B Balz Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:21:10 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214589 As I speak to folks, many have got good stories about Mr. Oxendine, and so far none of the 'peccadillo's' seem to matter. A lot of folks can attest that Mr. Oxendine helped them with this, that, or the other insurance matter, personally. I believe bashing one candidate while promoting another reduces the objectivity, thus the effectiveness as a communication medium, of any forum. Is that the direction Peach Pundit wishes to take? As I speak to folks, many have got good stories about Mr. Oxendine, and so far none of the ‘peccadillo’s’ seem to matter. A lot of folks can attest that Mr. Oxendine helped them with this, that, or the other insurance matter, personally.

I believe bashing one candidate while promoting another reduces the objectivity, thus the effectiveness as a communication medium, of any forum.

Is that the direction Peach Pundit wishes to take?

]]> By: polisavvy http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/18/oxendine-withdraw-and-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-214587 polisavvy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:16:03 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/?p=20957#comment-214587 As an aside, have you noticed how many of his supporters have fallen off the wagon in defending him? I've noticed that here, the AJC, and SWGA. I wonder why this guy doesn't get the message that he's not as popular and well thought of as he thinks and as the pols show. Just wondering. As an aside, have you noticed how many of his supporters have fallen off the wagon in defending him? I’ve noticed that here, the AJC, and SWGA. I wonder why this guy doesn’t get the message that he’s not as popular and well thought of as he thinks and as the pols show. Just wondering.

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