Let’s Legislate!

These stories are depressing, especially considiering it was a nursing student.

A Kennesaw State University nursing student died Sunday morning after drinking until he passed out at a party the night before.

Authorities say they’re awaiting a toxicology report on exactly what killed 21-year-old Dorian Richard Varcianna.

Someone is going to propose some sort of legislation, you and I both know it. Please note, however, that this person was of legal drinking age and there isn’t a whole lot to legislate to stop something like this. But that won’t deter the nanny state.

27 comments

  1. polisavvy says:

    Being the mother of children about the same age as the KSU student, I don’t mean for this to sound cold and heartless; however, you can’t legislate this type of behavior in people that age. They believe they are fearless and whatever happened to someone else will never happen to them. It’s a sad story; however, there should be no waste of taxpayer money to legislate a grownup consuming alcohol to the point of death. It’s a matter of personal choice/responsibility, not one to be legislated.

    • Republican Lady says:

      This tragic event is a good example of why we need to start teaching students in elementary school about the dangers of alcohol abuse. We started at this level in the seventies in teaching them to wear seatbelts, so why not start educating them about other dangers while they are young enough to listen?

      Americans tend to drink until drunk and call that fun. Europe teaches responsible drinking in a food enviroment, like one or two glasses of wine or one or two beers versus an entire bottle or six pack per person with meals. Europeans don’t typically drink until drunk.

      Red wine has been recommended by cardiologists to deter heart disease but again a glass or two, not more. Some urologists have recommended a beer a day for frequent kidney or bladder infections.

      There is alcohol in over-the-counter medications like Nyquil, so the plan starting within the family unit should be responsible alcohol use and not abuse.

      • polisavvy says:

        Exactly, Republican Lady. Unfortunately, all too often, parents are apathetic about their own children and instead rely or depend on someone other than themselves to educate/raise them. It’s a sad state of affairs, but one that you can see all around you. The parents don’t take the responsibility; therefore, their children take no responsibility and behave wrecklessly.

        As an aside, I did see an interview with the child’s mom this morning on WSB-TV and she said that they were awaiting the toxicology reports because she said that he did not drink and was very health conscious.

  2. Perhaps if the legal drinking age was lowered and alcohol wasn’t such a big deal, people might actually teach their kids to drink in moderation as they’re growing up… while they’re still at home… instead of leaving them to learn it while they’re away from home at college. Yes, I’m fully aware that letting your kids drink at home when supervised by a parent is already legal… but do most people know that? I would venture to guess that most people probably assume that the age is 21 period… no exceptions.

      • Maverick17 says:

        Yes, it’s 3-3-23(c): http://law.justia.com/georgia/codes/3/3-3-23.html

        “(c) The prohibitions contained in paragraphs (1), (2), and (4) of subsection (a) of this Code section shall not apply with respect to the possession of alcoholic beverages for consumption by a person under 21 years of age when the parent or guardian of the person under 21 years of age gives the alcoholic beverage to the person and when possession is in the home of the parent or guardian and such parent or guardian is present”

          • tocallaghan says:

            You can’t leave home though, so the law is completely pointless. No one wants to drink at home with their parents w/o any friends.

          • tocallaghan – that’s my point though… parents should be teaching their kids to drink responsibly… like a glass of wine with dinner… or a mixed drink or glass of scotch or whatever on occasion. That they shouldn’t just go binge drink and lose their sensibilities. People do things because they’re not allowed to, or because they haven’t been allowed to up until a certain age… so when they’re finally allowed to do whatever it is, they go crazy with it. I would suggest that that’s why some kids start smoking as well… it’s an “adult” thing to do… so they want to act like an adult, they take up smoking…

          • tocallaghan says:

            David Staples – Agreed. Teens need to learn how to drink responsibly, but a glass of wine at dinner with a parent with out any friends isn’t going to teach them that.

    • tocallaghan says:

      It would. As an 18 year old I can tell you that teens start drinking in secret. This leads to binge drinking before concerts or parties because you can’t buy alcohol on the inside. Also, teens drive home because their afraid of getting in trouble. Not to mention, the 21 year old drinking age is unconstitutional because of the 14th Amendment, so there really shouldn’t be much of a debate.

      • Republican Lady says:

        As a Constitutional Law teacher at a local college, please enlighten me as to how the 21-year-old drinking age is unconsitutional because of the Fourteenth Amendment.

        The Tenth Amendment gives all rights not given to the Federal system, to the states. That is where states determine the driving age, law enforcement powers, graning concealed carry weapons permits, etc.

        So please, enlighten me on alcohol and the Fourteenth.

    • polisavvy says:

      My husband and I allowed our sons to drink because we knew that both would be heading off the college. At the time, there were more incidents of overindulgence on college campuses then than now. We did not want to get that horrible call at night that something had happened to either of our sons. They learned to drink, with our supervision, so that they would know their limitations once they left for college. Our only rule was and still is today — never get behind the wheel when you’ve been drinking. It seemed to work. I see absolutely nothing wrong with parents helping their kids learn this very valuable lessen under their supervision. I do not advocate allowing children who are not your own drinking at your home — that’s totally against the law. In Mississippi, you can allow your underage kid to drink out in public with a parent.

      • barstool69 says:

        Interestingly enough, the National Minimum Drinking Age Act only prohibits under 21 sales and “public possession”. It specifically states that private clubs/establishments are not covered. Other exception include for religious ceremonies, with a parent, or prescription from a Dr.

        GA has gone farther than required by the Act. The only exceptions in GA are with a parent/guardian at the house, religious reasons, or with a prescriptions. GA could allow under 21 year olds to drink in public with a parent or drink in private clubs/establishments.

      • Republican Lady says:

        You gave an example of my point exactly, responsible parental teaching about the dangers of alcohol. Better to teach kids at home then to let them learn it on their own with other misinformed teens trying to be adult without understanding the dangers of their unsupervised actions.

  3. benevolus says:

    Not sure I agree that someone will propose legislation, but OK, as long as we’re playing a game, let’s make it interesting; WHO will propose the legislation? D or R? Candidate for Gov or not? Will it’s title include the word “children”? Could anyone actually go on record as opposing it?

    • Ken in Eastman says:

      I’m thinking candidate for higher office or candidate in a tough re-election fight (heck, they’re almost all candidates this year) just because I was overcome by a wave of cynicism.

      D or R? Coin flip, but I lean toward R because of the numbers game.

      “Children” in the title? No; I’m not quite that cynical yet.

      Opposition? Yes.

  4. chefdavid says:

    Who were the sponsors of that smoking ban a few years ago? That’s who my money is on. I am still shaking my head on that one. What are they going to do fine your estate if you drink to much, make your corps stay in the jail for a couple of months? Weekend at Bernie’s GA style.

  5. TidePrideGA says:

    This young man was a good friend of a friend of mine’s son. This friend of Dorian’s put the following post on Facebook. Perhaps this is the correct attitude to take?

    Dorian we all miss you. And may no man blame each other for this tragedy, may we all learn from your life and may we all grow to become better men. Your death has opened the eyes of many. And as we all wish we could turn back time and change our actions, however we are forced to face the reality of those decisions. Dorian REST IN PEACE!!!

    • polisavvy says:

      I meant to tell you earlier today that I am very sorry for your son’s friend’s loss. Anytime a young person dies, it’s extremely sad and hard for the friends left behind. I’ll keep your son and his friend in my prayers. Thanks for sharing the FB with us all.

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