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	<title>Comments on: The Beginning Of The End:  OX IS TOAST</title>
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		<title>By: Goring the Ox: The Blindfolded Party Guy — Peach Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/01/the-beginning-of-the-end-ox-is-toast/comment-page-2/#comment-211766</link>
		<dc:creator>Goring the Ox: The Blindfolded Party Guy — Peach Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Lynn Westmoreland due to Westmoreland&#8217;s refusal to endorse the guy. For background on this read this post by Icarus, which should disturb all the conservatives on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Lynn Westmoreland due to Westmoreland&#8217;s refusal to endorse the guy. For background on this read this post by Icarus, which should disturb all the conservatives on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Goring the Ox: Why John Oxendine Must Be Defeated &#124; WTF?! Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goring the Ox: Why John Oxendine Must Be Defeated &#124; WTF?! Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Icarus over at Peach Pundit notes, on December 9, 2009, John Oxendine called Westmoreland again to tell him Southeastern U.S. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Goring the Ox: Why John Oxendine Must Be Defeated - Erick&#8217;s blog - RedState</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goring the Ox: Why John Oxendine Must Be Defeated - Erick&#8217;s blog - RedState</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Icarus over at Peach Pundit notes, on December 9, 2009, John Oxendine called Westmoreland again to tell him Southeastern U.S. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ken in Eastman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken in Eastman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozart,

I believe &lt;b&gt;ideas&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;information&lt;/b&gt; on Peach Pundit matter. It&#039;s a matter of who reads PP and what they do with those ideas and information that matters.

If you think there is a single candidate (at least GOP, who knows about the Dems) who doesn&#039;t either read PP or have a staffer read it or hear about it from friends then you would be mistaken.

During the legislative session, there will be quite a few folks under the Gold Dome who do pay attention to this. I believe it&#039;s a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mozart,</p>
<p>I believe <b>ideas</b> and <b>information</b> on Peach Pundit matter. It&#8217;s a matter of who reads PP and what they do with those ideas and information that matters.</p>
<p>If you think there is a single candidate (at least GOP, who knows about the Dems) who doesn&#8217;t either read PP or have a staffer read it or hear about it from friends then you would be mistaken.</p>
<p>During the legislative session, there will be quite a few folks under the Gold Dome who do pay attention to this. I believe it&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in Eastman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken in Eastman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anewday,

Accepting legal contributions from lobbyists is not illegal, just as it&#039;s not illegal to accept endorsements. 

Fail. Try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anewday,</p>
<p>Accepting legal contributions from lobbyists is not illegal, just as it&#8217;s not illegal to accept endorsements. </p>
<p>Fail. Try again.</p>
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		<title>By: Archon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The relationship between State House members, including Lynn, with the OX has never been good.  In fact until the OX thought about the LG race a few years back he didn&#039;t even engage the house or senate Republican caucus, wouldn&#039;t help raise money, and did nothing to further the move from minority to todays majority.  

Many of the members that are still there and those that sought his help and were snubbed still remember when our two beacons of hope were Mike &quot;don&#039;t come out from under my desk yet&quot; Bowers and the OX.  Bowers for his part fought hard and helped when he wasn&#039;t otherwise occupied.  From what I hear the OX spent most of his time of junkets with the powerful instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The relationship between State House members, including Lynn, with the OX has never been good.  In fact until the OX thought about the LG race a few years back he didn&#8217;t even engage the house or senate Republican caucus, wouldn&#8217;t help raise money, and did nothing to further the move from minority to todays majority.  </p>
<p>Many of the members that are still there and those that sought his help and were snubbed still remember when our two beacons of hope were Mike &#8220;don&#8217;t come out from under my desk yet&#8221; Bowers and the OX.  Bowers for his part fought hard and helped when he wasn&#8217;t otherwise occupied.  From what I hear the OX spent most of his time of junkets with the powerful instead.</p>
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		<title>By: B Balz</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Balz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always felt that blogs ought to as a bare minimum require contributors to disclose their affiliations, if any, so that folks could judge comments based on that information.

After a fashion, readers can surmise that certain contributors must be either vol or paid for candidate/cause shills, but it would be nice to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always felt that blogs ought to as a bare minimum require contributors to disclose their affiliations, if any, so that folks could judge comments based on that information.</p>
<p>After a fashion, readers can surmise that certain contributors must be either vol or paid for candidate/cause shills, but it would be nice to know.</p>
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		<title>By: kolt473</title>
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		<dc:creator>kolt473</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this were 1979 80 both of these buffoons wouldn&#039;t be in the race, king murphy zig zag zell in charge even the governors back then were idiots think it was JIMMY CARTER UGH, GEORGE BUSBEE, JOE FRANK HARRIS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this were 1979 80 both of these buffoons wouldn&#8217;t be in the race, king murphy zig zag zell in charge even the governors back then were idiots think it was JIMMY CARTER UGH, GEORGE BUSBEE, JOE FRANK HARRIS!</p>
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		<title>By: AthensRepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/01/the-beginning-of-the-end-ox-is-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-211464</link>
		<dc:creator>AthensRepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, I agree. Eric Johnson did what he was suppose to do in the Richardson matter. However, I do wish he had taken a stronger stand on the need for tighter ethics laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, I agree. Eric Johnson did what he was suppose to do in the Richardson matter. However, I do wish he had taken a stronger stand on the need for tighter ethics laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Mozart</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/01/the-beginning-of-the-end-ox-is-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-211456</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe PP should set-up a PP PAC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe PP should set-up a PP PAC?</p>
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		<title>By: Mozart</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/01/the-beginning-of-the-end-ox-is-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-211453</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He cannot fundraise for himself, Making Sense (Not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He cannot fundraise for himself, Making Sense (Not).</p>
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		<title>By: Republican Lady</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/01/the-beginning-of-the-end-ox-is-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-211447</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not choose Karen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not choose Karen?</p>
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		<title>By: anewday</title>
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		<dc:creator>anewday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering why are you going at me.  I agree with you that Maria Sheffield would be a good candidate.  Anyway won&#039;t resort to petty school yard insults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering why are you going at me.  I agree with you that Maria Sheffield would be a good candidate.  Anyway won&#8217;t resort to petty school yard insults.</p>
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		<title>By: chefdavid</title>
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		<dc:creator>chefdavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Westmoreland sums it up best. The reporter from GPB clearly states he was contacted.
http://gpb.podbean.com/mf/web/wuhfb/congressmanwestmoreland.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Westmoreland sums it up best. The reporter from GPB clearly states he was contacted.<br />
<a href="http://gpb.podbean.com/mf/web/wuhfb/congressmanwestmoreland.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://gpb.podbean.com/mf/web/wuhfb/congressmanwestmoreland.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is &quot;remember the Atlanta Mayor&#039;s race?&quot;

Mayor Lisa Borders?  

Well, she came in third.

And the man in third, he&#039;s at City Hall in the big chair.

NONE of the campaigns have started the actual &quot;campaign&quot; yet.  None.  Everything now is about raising money and building a GOTV grass roots effort.   There is no reason to expect to see polls move significantly before June 1st.

And there is no reason to expect the polls to look remotely the same as they do today on July 1st.

June and July will be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is &#8220;remember the Atlanta Mayor&#8217;s race?&#8221;</p>
<p>Mayor Lisa Borders?  </p>
<p>Well, she came in third.</p>
<p>And the man in third, he&#8217;s at City Hall in the big chair.</p>
<p>NONE of the campaigns have started the actual &#8220;campaign&#8221; yet.  None.  Everything now is about raising money and building a GOTV grass roots effort.   There is no reason to expect to see polls move significantly before June 1st.</p>
<p>And there is no reason to expect the polls to look remotely the same as they do today on July 1st.</p>
<p>June and July will be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: B Balz</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Balz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icarus,

If Rasmussen polls don&#039;t reflect front runner status changes in the next 90-120 days,  PP&#039;s nominee will be  a side note, much like our final influence over SB31.  

I really am concerned Mr. Oxendine may be nominated.  There is no time to wait and assume voters will learn or care about Mr. Oxendines&#039; peccadillo&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icarus,</p>
<p>If Rasmussen polls don&#8217;t reflect front runner status changes in the next 90-120 days,  PP&#8217;s nominee will be  a side note, much like our final influence over SB31.  </p>
<p>I really am concerned Mr. Oxendine may be nominated.  There is no time to wait and assume voters will learn or care about Mr. Oxendines&#8217; peccadillo&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: B Balz</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Balz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may count on it, Mozart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may count on it, Mozart.</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/02/01/the-beginning-of-the-end-ox-is-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-211237</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To B Balz comment and others,

PP doesn&#039;t pretend we&#039;re about &quot;retail&quot; politics.  Most Georgians are content to go about their lives with rational ignorance about politics.   Then, a few weeks or even a few hours prior to voting, they&#039;ll start to ask their friends who they know do pay attention about who to vote for.

That&#039;s when the campaign ground games are active, and that&#039;s when you see who a real front runner is.

During that time, you will see Ox stories start to resonate with these folks.  You will see some attack ads against him, though I&#039;m willing to bet most candidates save that for whom they perceive is numbers 2,3,4, as each wants to be with Ox in the runoff.  

If it were to be one on one with Ox, there will be a lot more people than the candidates throwing everything they have at him.   He will not be our nominee.

By Ox trying to go after Westmoreland, however, he got greedy, and  the other shoes may now start dropping from other people who aren&#039;t candidates.   I lower my chances of Ox making it into the  runoff to 40% or less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To B Balz comment and others,</p>
<p>PP doesn&#8217;t pretend we&#8217;re about &#8220;retail&#8221; politics.  Most Georgians are content to go about their lives with rational ignorance about politics.   Then, a few weeks or even a few hours prior to voting, they&#8217;ll start to ask their friends who they know do pay attention about who to vote for.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s when the campaign ground games are active, and that&#8217;s when you see who a real front runner is.</p>
<p>During that time, you will see Ox stories start to resonate with these folks.  You will see some attack ads against him, though I&#8217;m willing to bet most candidates save that for whom they perceive is numbers 2,3,4, as each wants to be with Ox in the runoff.  </p>
<p>If it were to be one on one with Ox, there will be a lot more people than the candidates throwing everything they have at him.   He will not be our nominee.</p>
<p>By Ox trying to go after Westmoreland, however, he got greedy, and  the other shoes may now start dropping from other people who aren&#8217;t candidates.   I lower my chances of Ox making it into the  runoff to 40% or less.</p>
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		<title>By: Mozart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mozart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh.  Sorry.  I cannot seem to quite maintain the right &quot;tune-age&quot; here.

I will dutifully attempt to pepper posts with the exclamations of &quot;Good Post!&quot; &quot;Great Post!&quot;....&quot;Right on!&quot;....&quot;Yeah, Baby, you got it going on!&quot; and other such exhortations so that I can be accepted as a member of &quot;Team PP.&quot;

Thank you, Mr. Balz, for letting me know I was out of tune.  Please feel free to point this out in the future should I stray again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh.  Sorry.  I cannot seem to quite maintain the right &#8220;tune-age&#8221; here.</p>
<p>I will dutifully attempt to pepper posts with the exclamations of &#8220;Good Post!&#8221; &#8220;Great Post!&#8221;&#8230;.&#8221;Right on!&#8221;&#8230;.&#8221;Yeah, Baby, you got it going on!&#8221; and other such exhortations so that I can be accepted as a member of &#8220;Team PP.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you, Mr. Balz, for letting me know I was out of tune.  Please feel free to point this out in the future should I stray again.</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;True Grit February 3, 2010 at 7:45 am [edit] 
The one part of the story that everyone keeps leaving out is that Ox told Westmoreland his name was found on company documents. Nothing more. &quot;

Nothing more?  You wish.

He told Westmoreland repeatedly that he would just hate it, hate it to see Lynn&#039;s name in the press.  And, he told him he would do everything in his power to keep Lynn&#039;s name out of the press.

1st sentence is the threat.

2nd sentence is the invitation to play ball to avoid the terms in the threat.

Keep in mind these conversations happened after Deal had become &quot;Radioactive&quot;, and was touting his new found &quot;birther&quot; status.  It would be a great time to pry Lynn away from Deal if he was so inclined.

Lynn stuck with  his man, and about two months later, he got a call from GPTV indicating it was Oxendine personally who gave Lynn&#039;s name to the reporter.

That&#039;s how shakedowns work, or don&#039;t work.

Ox = Fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;True Grit February 3, 2010 at 7:45 am [edit]<br />
The one part of the story that everyone keeps leaving out is that Ox told Westmoreland his name was found on company documents. Nothing more. &#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing more?  You wish.</p>
<p>He told Westmoreland repeatedly that he would just hate it, hate it to see Lynn&#8217;s name in the press.  And, he told him he would do everything in his power to keep Lynn&#8217;s name out of the press.</p>
<p>1st sentence is the threat.</p>
<p>2nd sentence is the invitation to play ball to avoid the terms in the threat.</p>
<p>Keep in mind these conversations happened after Deal had become &#8220;Radioactive&#8221;, and was touting his new found &#8220;birther&#8221; status.  It would be a great time to pry Lynn away from Deal if he was so inclined.</p>
<p>Lynn stuck with  his man, and about two months later, he got a call from GPTV indicating it was Oxendine personally who gave Lynn&#8217;s name to the reporter.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how shakedowns work, or don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Ox = Fail.</p>
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