Deal must present his birth certificate

January 29, 2010 6:51 am

by Jason · 65 comments

Loren Collins is right, Nathan Deal needs to put these rumors to rest:

I have never seen any proof that Nathan Deal is a U.S. citizen. Unlike President Obama, he has never released any records of his birth. The documentation that is publicly available leaves many things to be desired. Extensive online research turns up only an alleged birthdate and birthplace of Millen, Georgia. Who were his parents? What was the hospital? Who was the delivering doctor? These are questions that need answers.

You see, there are unsourced internet rumors that Nathan Deal was not born in Georgia at all. That instead, his mother gave birth to him while his parents were in Canada, dodging the WWII draft. They then returned to Georgia and registered his birth here. Moreover, there is further rumor that Nathan is actually the son of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. I’m not saying these rumors are true, but when can we expect Deal to produce the documents that would put them to rest? What is he hiding?

And unfortunately, a birth certificate alone cannot settle this matter, even after it’s been forensically examined. Deal has been a U.S. Congressman since 1993, and was previously a Georgia State Senator beginning in 1981. Both offices have citizenship requirements, yet in his nearly three decades in elected office, Nathan Deal has never publicly produced a shred of evidence to support his presumed U.S. birth and citizenship. Three decades of evasion. Even his Congressional website says nothing about his birth, opting instead for the conveniently ambiguous statement that he “was raised in Sandersville, Georgia.” His gubernatorial campaign website avoids the subject of his youth entirely.

And are you aware his first name is not actually “Nathan”? It’s John. John Nathan Deal. Did he ever legally change his name? Could his surname still be Rosenberg? We simply don’t know.

What are you hiding, Rep. Deal? You must present your birth certificate to put these rumors to rest. The people of Georgia deserve no less!

Kellie January 29, 2010 at 6:58 am

I needed a good laugh this morning. 😉

polisavvy January 29, 2010 at 8:03 am

Funny if this could be a case of the pot calling the kettle black, huh? I laughed when I logged on and saw this one! Hysterically funny. :)

inlimine January 29, 2010 at 7:08 am


Chris January 29, 2010 at 7:15 am

If he was born in Dade county before 1945, is he a natural born citizen?

Jason Pye January 29, 2010 at 7:57 am


That’s actually a good point.

benevolus January 29, 2010 at 8:42 am
John Konop January 29, 2010 at 7:27 am

This brings up a bigger question was Nathan deal circumcised?

A Jewish male who is not circumcised is regarded as “spiritually cut off from God and the Jewish people.” (Genesis 17:14)

I am not asking for proof on this one!

macho January 29, 2010 at 7:47 am

I think you just nominated yourself as PP’s chief circumcision inspector.

John Konop January 29, 2010 at 3:23 pm

Would Deal changing his name to Rosenberg help or hurt? Maybe he could run under both names and split the vote.

galiberal January 29, 2010 at 8:18 am

Wow, what a novel idea… they must have been reading GALiberal four days ealier:

Eyeroll – I wonder if THEY actually called the offices, talked to the campaign staff, and forced them to send proof?

And BTW, we prefer to be called “Proofers”

inlimine January 29, 2010 at 9:11 am

“Dealers” on this one, specifically.

Loren January 29, 2010 at 9:11 am

Actually, no. Can’t say I’m familiar with the site. I wrote this up and submitted it to the AJC way back on January 11, and to Creative Loafing on January 15. I just didn’t post it to my blog until now.

And just ’cause I’m confused about this, how exactly do you count four days between January 27 and January 28?

Kudos, though, on the investigative research.

Joshua Morris January 29, 2010 at 9:27 am

This is stupid.

inlimine January 29, 2010 at 9:31 am

I think that’s the point.

ByteMe January 29, 2010 at 9:44 am

SSSTTCHTHH…. all cars, be on the lookout for an escaped irony gene….

Ken in Eastman January 29, 2010 at 10:19 am


VeryFast January 29, 2010 at 9:38 am


Jawgadude January 29, 2010 at 9:49 am

Yeah, but Deal hasn’t spent in excess of $1 million trying to eradicate and cover the details of his birth and childhood. While Obama has releases some basic documents, he has blocked release of his “official” birth certificate, probably because birth certificates generally show the race of the child as being the same as his mother, so Obama would be listed as white.

Rick Day January 29, 2010 at 10:14 am

I’m sorry but you are going to have to provide proof of this alleged million dollars with actual documented facts, showing who was paid what and what for. Can you even prove President Obama had access to one million fluid dollars?

And can you provide irrefutable (irrefutable to my standards, of course!) proof that you are a citizen and was not born in some godforsaken yankee state?

Before you protest “But I’m not the POTUS” I’d say, that fact has more to do about WHAT you ARE and not WHERE you were BORN.

Because that is the way you roll, Birther. You guys are worse than the Ron Paulistas or the Hanging Chadders

ByteMe January 29, 2010 at 10:22 am

He has no proof. The $1M claim comes from a blogger who looked at the Obama campaign expenses, saw a line item for $1M for legal counsel and decided that itwhat to fend off the Birther crowd which was nothing more than uninformed conjecture.

And idiots keep repeating it because they have nothing else but their own echo chamber for “facts”.

polisavvy January 29, 2010 at 10:30 am

I didn’t vote for the guy; but, damn I agree that it is time to give it up. The birthers should give it up!!

Provocateur January 29, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Those idiots just balance out the Left who still claim GWB stole the election of 2000.

polisavvy January 30, 2010 at 11:26 am

So true, Provocateur, so very true.

Loren January 29, 2010 at 10:42 am

The $1 million figure is, of course, completely bogus. Two seconds of reasoned analysis should tell you that Obama has not spent upwards of $50,000 PER LAWSUIT, when they’ve all been resolved on Motions to Dismiss.

Your somewhat more subtle mistake is this: when was the last time, in your entire life, that you saw a birth certificate that showed a race for the child. Not for the father and mother (that’s common, if not standard), but for the child. States stopped doing that a long time ago, and Hawaiian birth certificates in 1961 didn’t even have a box for the child’s race.

In other words, you want to think he’s hiding something, so you’re willing to make up things that he could be hiding to justify your own feelings.

Romegaguy January 29, 2010 at 9:50 am

I still havent seen Ray McBerry’s birth certificate either. But then again, maybe he published it when he published his campaign disclosure for last year

LoyaltyIsMyHonor January 29, 2010 at 9:56 am

McBerry’s birth certificate would obviously have the official seal from the Planet Vega IV.

StephenLocustGrove January 29, 2010 at 1:53 pm

Romegaguy… Take your head out of your rearend and you will see he has published!!!

Romegaguy January 29, 2010 at 5:00 pm

A month late. Nice to see he takes Georgia’s laws seriously. Now when can we see see his birth certificate?

Maurice Atkinson January 29, 2010 at 9:54 am

Slow news day. This matters zero. Deal seems to be a decent person and asked questions, that apparently, a lot of people were interested in.

Rick Day January 29, 2010 at 10:18 am

I’m sorry Mauuuuuuuuuureice, but you dropped your humor bone back there on the floor.

Go fetch it.

Maurice Atkinson January 29, 2010 at 11:49 am

nah, I see the humor, but this always seems to get a lot of comment and criticism. Who knows, maybe it’s not a bad question to ask given the circumstances… Yeah it’s a radical leap, but hey, it’s politics.

Remember the “Clinton Chronicles” that garnered a lot of buzz? I rented it from the local video store. That was whacked out with conspiracy theories, but in the end a retired AR Supreme Court judge said he stood by it. Then there was the Vince Foster, the Clinton Hit List, Ken Hamblin and a bunch of other folks that the right used. So the fact that his father was not a U.S. citizen and that they spent time in Kenya, would certainly draw a lot of questions. Heck, probably even more legitimate than the Clinton crap. That was just too hysterical. No I am not a birther……

griftdrift January 29, 2010 at 10:42 am

A lot of people are also interested in Area 51, who shot Kennedy, the face on Mars…..

benevolus January 29, 2010 at 11:15 am

What is Deals’ position on resolving the America’s Cup dispute?

griftdrift January 29, 2010 at 11:20 am

Excellent question!

Jason Pye January 29, 2010 at 11:39 am

Is that the official position of the protectionist DeLoach campaign?

Maurice Atkinson January 29, 2010 at 11:53 am

Not hardly. Now that you’ve raise a question regarding a congressional campaign, are you folks actually advocating succeeding from the union????

If you ask me, that is far nuttier than Deal’s letter. That’s plain lunacy.

Jason Pye January 29, 2010 at 12:05 pm

Who is “you folks”? I’m not a McBerry supporter.

apacheangel January 29, 2010 at 1:37 pm

Pardon my ignorance, I’m just a dumb homeschool graduate, but how does one “succeed” from the union?

While we’re on the topic, when did you ever hear Ray McBerry say we should either secede or succeed from the union?

Maurice Atkinson January 29, 2010 at 2:38 pm

Ignorance is pardoned…. Secede is not a large part of my vocabulary. Thanks for the correction.

Never mentioned McBerry, mentioned a congressional candidate.

brettbittner January 29, 2010 at 4:30 pm

@Maurice Would you care to name names? My curiosity is peaked. Or is this an attack by suggestion?

benevolus January 29, 2010 at 9:49 pm

League of the South Board of Directors:
Dr Michael Hill, Killen, Alabama (President)
Mr Jack Kershaw, Esq., Nashville, Tennessee
Ray McBerry, McDonough, Georgia
Franklin Sanders, Dogwood Mudhole, Tennessee
Rev. Eugene Case, Woodville, Mississippi
Mark Thomey, Monroe, Louisiana
Mike Tuggle, Charlotte, North Carolina

“…Therefore, The League of the South advocates the secession and subsequent independence of the Southern States from this forced union and the formation of a Southern republic. “

Provocateur January 29, 2010 at 11:52 pm

“Dogwood Mudhole, Tennessee”…now there’s a place to BE from.

Provocateur January 29, 2010 at 10:50 am

How do we know he was “born?” He coulda come here from Area 51…

IndyInjun January 29, 2010 at 11:17 am

Deal could not get certified as being a REPUBLICAN based on his voting record.

Hey Nathan, you cannot prove that you are a REPUBLICAN.

I can prove that you are not a REPUBLICAN.

Deal with that.

rugby January 29, 2010 at 11:35 am

Sure…and Paul Broun was sworn in.

Mad Dog January 29, 2010 at 11:41 am

Forget about it!

The Great Man doesn’t have to produce nothing to satisfy the circumcise crowd. After all, it’s about what’s missing not what’s there.

And Deal has a lot missing.

TalmadgeGhost January 29, 2010 at 12:16 pm

Please keep up the rhetoric about McBerry. He went to the same highschool I did – nice guy, crazy ideas.

I guess running a couple ChickFila’s will do that to a man – make him even question the value of the Federal Government.

Have no illusions – he dreams of secession and the creation of a Baptist Taliban State of Georgia.

ByteMe January 29, 2010 at 12:29 pm

So you’re saying the real issue is that he was hanging around a deep fryer too long?

apacheangel January 29, 2010 at 1:39 pm

Yeah, that picture proves everything you just said. Not.

TalmadgeGhost January 29, 2010 at 3:06 pm

Oh sorry, let me post a quote from his campaign website.
in Georgia and beyond, that the principle of States’ Rights is still alive and well in the hearts and minds of the people of Dixie, despite the best-laid plans of Washington and its petty minions in our Southern capitols.. Wow, is that your boy? Someone who still says “Dixie” in this day and age?

As for the picture, Secession – St. Andrews Cross (those aren’t just old GA State flags flying there, which was as it turns out designed by an Atlanta lawyer in the 50’s to give DC the middle finger over de-segregation, but that’s another inconvenient historical fact.)

GOPGeorgia January 29, 2010 at 4:31 pm

Why were they boycotting coke?

Bucky Plyler January 29, 2010 at 2:24 pm

Truitt Cathey is the man!

TalmadgeGhost January 29, 2010 at 3:07 pm

Totally agree. Read the books he has written, fantastic man and a glowing example of what it means to follow one’s principals over profits.

Not sure about his kids, wondering what the empire will look like 10 years after he turns it over to them. Hopefully the exact same.

Bucky Plyler January 29, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Hey Apacheangel, I like your website!

Kellie January 29, 2010 at 3:02 pm

There is no doubt Deal is a southern born American; Canadians don’t use the term “getto grandmother” and they are all for government run healthcare. 😉

ByteMe January 29, 2010 at 3:27 pm

You didn’t address the circumcision rumor. 😉

On second thought…

Mad Dog January 29, 2010 at 4:00 pm

Thinks of a really bad joke about circumcision. Can’t help myself any longer. Must tell the joke.

Job opening at Peach Pundit. You get four skins a week and a chance to get ahead. Send application to: Peach Pundit Circumcision Inspector care of John Deal.

Game Fan January 31, 2010 at 5:16 pm

Game Fan enjoyed that one. But GAME FAN can’t address the question as to why GAME FAN has begun referring to himself in the third person like Bo Jackson. Not on this thread anyway. This would involve an interview with myself which can only occur in an open thread.

IndyInjun January 29, 2010 at 3:55 pm

Lets see if Deal could get GOP certificate.

Government closest to the People Test …..F….Voted for NCLB

Fiscal Responsibility test, Social Programs………F….Voted for Medicare D.

Fiscal Responsibility test, Debt………F….Voted for Bush spending, on and off budget that resulted in debt increasing 80% in 8 years.

Preserving Financial System from Derivatives……F…..voted for Commodities Modernization Act of 2000 that set evil genie loose

Preserving Financial System from Wall Street…..F…..voted for Gramm Leach Bliley that tore down 70 year old firewall and let Wall Street loot FDIC insured banks.

Preserving Individual Liberties…. F…….voted for Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, etc. that Obama can now terrorize conservatives with.

Mullah Omar is a better conservative and Republican.(….now if only HE would cooperate and show his eye patch in daylight, we could save some real money.)

Provocateur January 29, 2010 at 11:57 pm

Oh…well, he could get a “GOP Certificate” all right as most of the other self-proclaimed “Republican” congress members voted for these as well.

Trouble is, the party wraps its head around irrelevant issues, decides on candidates based on those irrelevant issues, and then cannot figure out why they get people to represent them who turnout to be ignorant of fiscally-conservative concepts.

IndyInjun January 30, 2010 at 12:26 am

Another problem is the irrelevant issues turn out to be seemingly impossible to them to master.

Frugality, common sense, and fiscal conservatism are alien concepts to them.

Silly me, I thought those lofty platforms and promises really meant something and that those running under them would honor them.

What I wonder about is how party regulars can face their children after supporting these liars.

Game Fan January 31, 2010 at 3:34 pm

In Leu of an actual Birth Certificate (not to be confused with a Certificate of Live birth) then another reliable source of the origin of one’s birth would be relatives and townsfolk and eyewitnesses. In the case of OG (Obama’s Grandma) she maintains that Obama was born in Kenya. So who am I to dispute this nice woman or call her a liar? Not sure why I should trust a bunch of politicians or “experts” over an eyewitness account. And from the “populist” camp, BACKACHA with the scorn and derision. :)

Romegaguy January 31, 2010 at 8:02 pm

I have never heard Deal’s grandmother say where he was born. Nor have I seen his birth certificate

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