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		<title>By: Mozart</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/01/25/beacon-explains-big-5-participants/comment-page-1/#comment-211452</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On the other hand, for a bunch of ostensibly freedom loving people to start demanding that someone else do something with their own time and money, seem a bit anachronistic.&quot;

Apparently, you&#039;re new here.  Because, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;anachronism&lt;/a&gt; precisely explains the PP genre of front page posters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the other hand, for a bunch of ostensibly freedom loving people to start demanding that someone else do something with their own time and money, seem a bit anachronistic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently, you&#8217;re new here.  Because, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronism" rel="nofollow">anachronism</a> precisely explains the PP genre of front page posters.</p>
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		<title>By: Mozart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mozart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Takes money to rent a facility to hold a debate?  Insurance to cover inadvertent injuries?  Security costs?

Or, do you think everything should be &quot;free,&quot; RL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Takes money to rent a facility to hold a debate?  Insurance to cover inadvertent injuries?  Security costs?</p>
<p>Or, do you think everything should be &#8220;free,&#8221; RL?</p>
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		<title>By: Mozart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mozart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nonsense!  McBerry could be Georgia&#039;s Jesse &quot;The Body&quot; Ventura!</description>
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		<title>By: Mozart</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/01/25/beacon-explains-big-5-participants/comment-page-1/#comment-211444</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fredericks is all in for Karen Handel.  It&#039;ll be interesting to watch him lob her the easy questions and seek to decimate the other 4 candidates&#039; with tougher questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fredericks is all in for Karen Handel.  It&#8217;ll be interesting to watch him lob her the easy questions and seek to decimate the other 4 candidates&#8217; with tougher questions.</p>
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		<title>By: SWGA Politics &#187; The Rights of Free Press and Free Association Are In the Constitution</title>
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		<dc:creator>SWGA Politics &#187; The Rights of Free Press and Free Association Are In the Constitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the fact that the Beacon&#8217;s published standard for participation in this debate was $250K raised so far, and Ray McBerry has barely raised a third [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the fact that the Beacon&#8217;s published standard for participation in this debate was $250K raised so far, and Ray McBerry has barely raised a third [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TangoMikeMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>TangoMikeMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A response to several posts:  1)  John Fredericks may indeed be an idiot, 2) The Beacon is sponsoring, alone, as far as i can tell (maybe with some help from Metro Club.)  That means no financial help from the state GOP (as i think helped in the Athens debate),  3)  Putting on this kind of event costs money.  If the reports are right (or even if they aren&#039;t&#039;) that the The Beacon is in financial trouble, i hope they at least get enough income from the event to break even.  4)  Several people have posted about what someone else should do.  I say call seven candidates, coordinate their schedules,  identify a place, and sponsor the event yourself, if you feel that strongly.  5)   Oxendine may indeed be &quot;ducking&quot; the candidates at the tail of the line, but why should he debate them?  They can&#039;t reasonably win, and about the only thing they can do is take shots at him.  That seems sensible, if the goal is to win.  Not comely exactly, but it&#039;s tough to fault the guy for it.  6) The Metro Club has limited seating, so,  7)  It seems to me like ten bucks is a reasonable restriction to make sure the place isn&#039;t overrun.  7)  The front runner in his first debate is interesting 8) Other news outlets have (apparently) been invited to cover the event.  

Okay, these didn&#039;t instantly come to mind, but took a little noodling.  I&#039;m no apologist for Fredericks, even though it really is the only newspaper in North Fulton.  On the other hand, for a bunch of ostensibly freedom loving people to start demanding that someone else do something with their own time and money, seem a bit anachronistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A response to several posts:  1)  John Fredericks may indeed be an idiot, 2) The Beacon is sponsoring, alone, as far as i can tell (maybe with some help from Metro Club.)  That means no financial help from the state GOP (as i think helped in the Athens debate),  3)  Putting on this kind of event costs money.  If the reports are right (or even if they aren&#8217;t') that the The Beacon is in financial trouble, i hope they at least get enough income from the event to break even.  4)  Several people have posted about what someone else should do.  I say call seven candidates, coordinate their schedules,  identify a place, and sponsor the event yourself, if you feel that strongly.  5)   Oxendine may indeed be &#8220;ducking&#8221; the candidates at the tail of the line, but why should he debate them?  They can&#8217;t reasonably win, and about the only thing they can do is take shots at him.  That seems sensible, if the goal is to win.  Not comely exactly, but it&#8217;s tough to fault the guy for it.  6) The Metro Club has limited seating, so,  7)  It seems to me like ten bucks is a reasonable restriction to make sure the place isn&#8217;t overrun.  7)  The front runner in his first debate is interesting <img src='http://www.peachpundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Other news outlets have (apparently) been invited to cover the event.  </p>
<p>Okay, these didn&#8217;t instantly come to mind, but took a little noodling.  I&#8217;m no apologist for Fredericks, even though it really is the only newspaper in North Fulton.  On the other hand, for a bunch of ostensibly freedom loving people to start demanding that someone else do something with their own time and money, seem a bit anachronistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in Eastman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken in Eastman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cell phone is no longer a luxury. In a small business or for a salesman or anyone in public relations, it is a necessity. Raising cell phone usage taxes are a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cell phone is no longer a luxury. In a small business or for a salesman or anyone in public relations, it is a necessity. Raising cell phone usage taxes are a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: polisavvy</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/01/25/beacon-explains-big-5-participants/comment-page-1/#comment-210209</link>
		<dc:creator>polisavvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely hysterical!  Sounds kind of ridiculous, doesn&#039;t it (asking for a birth certificate, I mean)?</description>
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		<title>By: Romegaguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romegaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard they didnt invite McBerry because of questions arising over his citizenship. Have you ever seen his birth certificate? I havent.</description>
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		<title>By: polisavvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>polisavvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, but the candidate is the one who will, unfortunately in his case, take the heat.  I just have wondered if there is not some legal remedy by which he can actually get whatever whoever has in order to file his disclosure, and then be able to get back to campaigning without the distractions.  He&#039;s not my choice for candidate; however, if he&#039;s unable because some other person has his information, then I feel for him.  If there&#039;s a legal remedy (in the event someone is refusing to give him his information), then he should pursue it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but the candidate is the one who will, unfortunately in his case, take the heat.  I just have wondered if there is not some legal remedy by which he can actually get whatever whoever has in order to file his disclosure, and then be able to get back to campaigning without the distractions.  He&#8217;s not my choice for candidate; however, if he&#8217;s unable because some other person has his information, then I feel for him.  If there&#8217;s a legal remedy (in the event someone is refusing to give him his information), then he should pursue it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in Eastman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken in Eastman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can delegate authority; one cannot delegate responsibility.</description>
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		<title>By: polisavvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>polisavvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me crazy (not literally), but, since his problems seem to be because someone is no longer in his employ, that perhaps there are legal remedies in which to get any information that she and/or anyone else has that is preventing him from being able to file his disclosure.  All the information they have is HIS property, not their property.  They should be/should have been forced to give him any and all information needed ASAP.  If they have given it back, he should file.  If they have not given it back, he should force them.  They did/should have filed confidentiality agreements with him.  If they did and have not returned his information, they have violated said confidentiality agreements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me crazy (not literally), but, since his problems seem to be because someone is no longer in his employ, that perhaps there are legal remedies in which to get any information that she and/or anyone else has that is preventing him from being able to file his disclosure.  All the information they have is HIS property, not their property.  They should be/should have been forced to give him any and all information needed ASAP.  If they have given it back, he should file.  If they have not given it back, he should force them.  They did/should have filed confidentiality agreements with him.  If they did and have not returned his information, they have violated said confidentiality agreements.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red, 

I thought blaming it on Jenny was a theory.  I didn&#039;t realize it was the real reason.  Thanks for clarifying.  Not filing is not an excuse for me to beat up on him.  I had not mentioned his campaign either positively or negatively until I wanted to know why the campaign wasn&#039;t following the law.

Maybe if he hired Jenny back, he would be able to comply, and get a few more votes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red, </p>
<p>I thought blaming it on Jenny was a theory.  I didn&#8217;t realize it was the real reason.  Thanks for clarifying.  Not filing is not an excuse for me to beat up on him.  I had not mentioned his campaign either positively or negatively until I wanted to know why the campaign wasn&#8217;t following the law.</p>
<p>Maybe if he hired Jenny back, he would be able to comply, and get a few more votes?</p>
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		<title>By: Bluedog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluedog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely a FACT!
It is incredible to me that anyone would even acknowledge this idiot...much less attend a debate sponsored by him. The guy is broke, disgusted and can&#039;t be trusted. A DUI and a divorce, a business whose advertisers must pay his creditors, not a city in his market will do business with him and every elected official and public servant in N Fulton knows what a sleaze-bag he is...and yet somehow he is legitimized by Shawn and Fulton GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely a FACT!<br />
It is incredible to me that anyone would even acknowledge this idiot&#8230;much less attend a debate sponsored by him. The guy is broke, disgusted and can&#8217;t be trusted. A DUI and a divorce, a business whose advertisers must pay his creditors, not a city in his market will do business with him and every elected official and public servant in N Fulton knows what a sleaze-bag he is&#8230;and yet somehow he is legitimized by Shawn and Fulton GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, GOPGeorgia, we would have been much better off sticking with the Articles of Confederation. It is ironic how anti-Federalist are actually the most dogmatic Constitutionalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, GOPGeorgia, we would have been much better off sticking with the Articles of Confederation. It is ironic how anti-Federalist are actually the most dogmatic Constitutionalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOPGeorgia, the reason he hasn&#039;t filed is discussed above. You saw it because you responded to it.

I wish he could have gotten the disclosure in on time, but no one really cares about his disclosure. It is just a convenient excuse to beat up on him, by people who are unwilling to address the larger issues he is raising. But primarily they care because they anticipate that he hasn&#039;t raised as much as the &quot;Big 5&quot; and they want to be able to point that out as if how much money you raise is some indication of how right you are on the issues. (The inverse relationship is more likely true.) Sorry if I&#039;m not buying following the letter of the law protestations from people who ridicule following the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOPGeorgia, the reason he hasn&#8217;t filed is discussed above. You saw it because you responded to it.</p>
<p>I wish he could have gotten the disclosure in on time, but no one really cares about his disclosure. It is just a convenient excuse to beat up on him, by people who are unwilling to address the larger issues he is raising. But primarily they care because they anticipate that he hasn&#8217;t raised as much as the &#8220;Big 5&#8243; and they want to be able to point that out as if how much money you raise is some indication of how right you are on the issues. (The inverse relationship is more likely true.) Sorry if I&#8217;m not buying following the letter of the law protestations from people who ridicule following the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/01/25/beacon-explains-big-5-participants/comment-page-1/#comment-209981</link>
		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red, 

I wasn&#039;t making an argument, I was just pointing out facts on you should not rely on &quot;original intent.&quot;  The original intent of our founding fathers was laid out in the articles of confederation.  It established the name of the confederation as &quot;The United States of America,&quot; but also preappoved the provinces of Canada as states into the confederation.  The continental congress changed the rules of the game by scrapping the articles and adopting the constitution.

The system that you champion, that I agree with for the most part, allows the federal government to conduct it&#039;s business and the states to conduct their business.  States may enact whatever laws they see fit pertaining to running for the office of Governor of that state.  According to the Constitutions of the United States and of Georgia, we have at least one candidate who appears to be making up the rules as he goes.

I’m not saying it’s always wrong to change the rules of the game.  I prefer the constitution to the articles of confederation.  We would just like a good explanation on why it’s OK to change them in this case.

Now that I have indulged your whim to discuss history, can you please explain why Ray has not filed his disclosures yet?

I don&#039;t need definitions of conservatives, republicans, or others.  I have my own, thank you.  I don&#039;t need complaints about motor voter or the seventeenth amendment.  I&#039;d like to discuss the topic at hand, if you can.  So far the silence has been deafening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red, </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t making an argument, I was just pointing out facts on you should not rely on &#8220;original intent.&#8221;  The original intent of our founding fathers was laid out in the articles of confederation.  It established the name of the confederation as &#8220;The United States of America,&#8221; but also preappoved the provinces of Canada as states into the confederation.  The continental congress changed the rules of the game by scrapping the articles and adopting the constitution.</p>
<p>The system that you champion, that I agree with for the most part, allows the federal government to conduct it&#8217;s business and the states to conduct their business.  States may enact whatever laws they see fit pertaining to running for the office of Governor of that state.  According to the Constitutions of the United States and of Georgia, we have at least one candidate who appears to be making up the rules as he goes.</p>
<p>I’m not saying it’s always wrong to change the rules of the game.  I prefer the constitution to the articles of confederation.  We would just like a good explanation on why it’s OK to change them in this case.</p>
<p>Now that I have indulged your whim to discuss history, can you please explain why Ray has not filed his disclosures yet?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need definitions of conservatives, republicans, or others.  I have my own, thank you.  I don&#8217;t need complaints about motor voter or the seventeenth amendment.  I&#8217;d like to discuss the topic at hand, if you can.  So far the silence has been deafening.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOPGeorgia, thanks for at least trying to make an argument. I agree that the Constitution is not the only thing that shapes a nation. No conservative would deny that religion, culture, heritage, history, geography, etc. also shape a nation.

Your argument is a common one. Since there was slavery, property ownership requirements to vote, etc. at the time of ratification then we no longer want what was originally intended. But many of the things you mention were changed by Amendment. (For the record, as a conservative who is not a democrat [small d], but a republican [small r] a strong case can be made for restricting as opposed to expanding the franchise. This has historically been the conservative position. It is why we opposed Motor Voter for example. The 17th Amendment that enacted the direct election of Senators was a huge mistake. But I digress.) But that is just the point. They bothered to actually amend the Constitution. They didn&#039;t just ignore it.

The point is not to recreate perfectly society as it was in the late 18th Century. Such is neither posible nor desirable. The point is that for the Constitution to mean anything, it has to be interpreted in light of the intent when it was enacted. (Just as, for example, the Bible must be interpreted in the manner in which it was intended, not by having modern mores and values read into it in hindsight.) If instead the Constitution is interpreted by whim of the Judicuiary for example we have lawlessness. It amounts to changing the rules in the middle of the game. 

One of those original intents was clearly the doctrine of &quot;enumerated powers.&quot; The historical evidence for this is abundantly clear. I could provide qoute after quote, source after source, to prove this. If people want the government to do more, they should focus on the local and state level. If they feel it must be done at the federal level then they should at least be intellectually honest enough to first seek to amend the Constitution, not pretend that enumerated powers doesn&#039;t exist or explain it away with hand waving and voodo language.

If someone would like to make the historical case against enumerated powers (or states rights as a means of enforcement) as the original intent then I would be more than happy to hear it. But &quot;Run away! Run away! There be extremists!&quot; or &quot;Na na-na na-na. Look at the evil extrenmist&quot; is not an argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOPGeorgia, thanks for at least trying to make an argument. I agree that the Constitution is not the only thing that shapes a nation. No conservative would deny that religion, culture, heritage, history, geography, etc. also shape a nation.</p>
<p>Your argument is a common one. Since there was slavery, property ownership requirements to vote, etc. at the time of ratification then we no longer want what was originally intended. But many of the things you mention were changed by Amendment. (For the record, as a conservative who is not a democrat [small d], but a republican [small r] a strong case can be made for restricting as opposed to expanding the franchise. This has historically been the conservative position. It is why we opposed Motor Voter for example. The 17th Amendment that enacted the direct election of Senators was a huge mistake. But I digress.) But that is just the point. They bothered to actually amend the Constitution. They didn&#8217;t just ignore it.</p>
<p>The point is not to recreate perfectly society as it was in the late 18th Century. Such is neither posible nor desirable. The point is that for the Constitution to mean anything, it has to be interpreted in light of the intent when it was enacted. (Just as, for example, the Bible must be interpreted in the manner in which it was intended, not by having modern mores and values read into it in hindsight.) If instead the Constitution is interpreted by whim of the Judicuiary for example we have lawlessness. It amounts to changing the rules in the middle of the game. </p>
<p>One of those original intents was clearly the doctrine of &#8220;enumerated powers.&#8221; The historical evidence for this is abundantly clear. I could provide qoute after quote, source after source, to prove this. If people want the government to do more, they should focus on the local and state level. If they feel it must be done at the federal level then they should at least be intellectually honest enough to first seek to amend the Constitution, not pretend that enumerated powers doesn&#8217;t exist or explain it away with hand waving and voodo language.</p>
<p>If someone would like to make the historical case against enumerated powers (or states rights as a means of enforcement) as the original intent then I would be more than happy to hear it. But &#8220;Run away! Run away! There be extremists!&#8221; or &#8220;Na na-na na-na. Look at the evil extrenmist&#8221; is not an argument.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2010/01/25/beacon-explains-big-5-participants/comment-page-1/#comment-209835</link>
		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red,

I&#039;m not so sure you want to go with just original intent as your prevailing view of why things should be constitutional.  The constitution is a very important document and it is a firm building block of our nation.  However, it is not the only thing that shapes our nation and amendments have been added that change the original intent of our forefathers.  The views of the country have changed in some areas.  Many constitutionalists want to harp on article one section eight of the constitution as far as powers granted to congress to control the scope of their actions.  They almost never bring up article three section one.  The SCOTUS has made rulings that I don&#039;t agree with, but I recognize their authority to set precedent and judicial review.  Judicial review was not set into the constitution, but it was discussed in the convention.

The original intent of our forefathers was that men who owned land could vote, women couldn&#039;t, and it was OK to own slaves.  The number of representatives in the house was one per thirty thousand.  U.S. Senators would be elected by the state legislature of each state and by the people.  The original intent was to have the Vice President as the first runner up to the President.  The original intent was that one could serve as President as many terms as the people elected them (via the electoral college.)

As our society changes and grows, so will cases that come before the SCOTUS and we may have amendments offered up that get passed.  Those rulings and amendments will have just as much scope in determining how of our nation functions as the original intent as our founding fathers.  You could still hold the attitude that you are right and the other 99% of us are wrong.  And that is your constitutional right to do so.

I believe that we should follow the constitution, not because the original intent of many things contained therein were perfect, but because we all need to play by the same rules and not make things up as we go along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure you want to go with just original intent as your prevailing view of why things should be constitutional.  The constitution is a very important document and it is a firm building block of our nation.  However, it is not the only thing that shapes our nation and amendments have been added that change the original intent of our forefathers.  The views of the country have changed in some areas.  Many constitutionalists want to harp on article one section eight of the constitution as far as powers granted to congress to control the scope of their actions.  They almost never bring up article three section one.  The SCOTUS has made rulings that I don&#8217;t agree with, but I recognize their authority to set precedent and judicial review.  Judicial review was not set into the constitution, but it was discussed in the convention.</p>
<p>The original intent of our forefathers was that men who owned land could vote, women couldn&#8217;t, and it was OK to own slaves.  The number of representatives in the house was one per thirty thousand.  U.S. Senators would be elected by the state legislature of each state and by the people.  The original intent was to have the Vice President as the first runner up to the President.  The original intent was that one could serve as President as many terms as the people elected them (via the electoral college.)</p>
<p>As our society changes and grows, so will cases that come before the SCOTUS and we may have amendments offered up that get passed.  Those rulings and amendments will have just as much scope in determining how of our nation functions as the original intent as our founding fathers.  You could still hold the attitude that you are right and the other 99% of us are wrong.  And that is your constitutional right to do so.</p>
<p>I believe that we should follow the constitution, not because the original intent of many things contained therein were perfect, but because we all need to play by the same rules and not make things up as we go along.</p>
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		<title>By: a4s4</title>
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		<dc:creator>a4s4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the numbers form the Georgia budget policy institute. (think tank) Talked to them this morning to make sure I had the numbers correct. And perhaps I should have checked my numbers a little better but the actual point remains. If you think the Federal Government does not use funding to control the states to some degree you are blind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the numbers form the Georgia budget policy institute. (think tank) Talked to them this morning to make sure I had the numbers correct. And perhaps I should have checked my numbers a little better but the actual point remains. If you think the Federal Government does not use funding to control the states to some degree you are blind.</p>
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