Comments on: Saxby Chambliss’ Statement On Health Care

By: benevolus

benevolus — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:51:51 +0000

Even the article you link to doesn’t claim that clause prevents changes to “the bill”. It only prevents changes to that “subsection”.

By: benevolus

benevolus — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:18:19 +0000

There’s nothing stopping companies from selling insurance in any state they want to. They just have to conform to that state’s regulations. No big deal. It doesn’t need to be “permitted”. It’s already permitted.

By: benevolus

benevolus — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:10:46 +0000

“17.04 million had incomes of over $50,000 per year. I think we can safely say that virtually all these people choose to be self-insured.”

That’s a pretty lame assumption.

By: Game Fan

Game Fan — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:37:07 +0000

Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?feat=home_cube_position1

By: Game Fan

Game Fan — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:29:57 +0000

Folks the big picture here is the CORPORATISTS are tilting the playing field against small business. And some of us out here are still fighting the good fight. And for those who don’t have a basic understanding of economics, socialism and command economics has been thoroughly discredited. But what probably resonates the most is “death panels” and illegal aliens. The complete insanity of how the DC corporate establishment looks at citizenship, the Constitution and American sovereignty as out of date concepts is amazing. The Bushes, the Clintons, and now Obama will do everything in their power to undermine this. They’re all elitists, all corporatists. All crooks and liars.

By: Game Fan

Game Fan — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:58:25 +0000

Yeah
Like I said before, “reform” is just DC parlance for “gravy train”. Just follow the money. My only REAL question is how and why ANYBODY takes what these clowns say at face value.
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/

By: btpull

btpull — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:32:14 +0000

Generally seniors are viewed as being past their working years whereas younger people at least in theory should be able to support themselves via employment. The irony is the older generation has a higher concentration of wealth.

So we have the 20 something struggling to get started in life supporting the elderly couple living in the $1 million dollar home. Its funny how government intervention works.

By: Life and Liberty

Life and Liberty — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:57:40 +0000

I have Great Hope for the near (and far) prospects for Life and Liberty, sir- and I thank you for your Christmas wish!

It seems to me that even in our State house, the problem is a federal one, namely: how to get back (some of) our federal money for our citizens’ benefit.

I have an idea or 2 about how I’d like to deal with the root, but HB 877 looks like the most viable one offered to the general assembly. Perhaps, with the current climate and distaste for Obamacare, we might convince our own legislators to consider cosponsoring this legislation, or offering us an answer why they would not.

By: ByteMe

ByteMe — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:10:47 +0000

Out having a tea party.

By: kim000

kim000 — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:01:30 +0000

After a while, it really does start to look unseemly to fight so hard to prevent persons from having healthcare. I can’t see the difference between seniors having healthcare and others having access to healthcare. Only older people deserve access to healthcare? If you voted for Medicare D and other similiar measures, you should be able to vote for the Senate version of the healthcare bill or something very close to it–but for the fact that its Obama and not Bush.

McConnell is also sounding like the GOP is going to campaign on repealing healthcare reform. Come again? Where are the GOP’s political strategists when they need some.

By: ByteMe

ByteMe — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:00:50 +0000

Wasn’t really implying you were following his playbook. We all know our playbooks have many more plays than just “absolutist pro life”. Just would make an interesting thread throwing Schiavo into the mix.

By: Game Fan

Game Fan — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:42:58 +0000

I hate when that happens.

By: Game Fan

Game Fan — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:44:13 +0000

ByteMe
I don’t go by Fundie’s playbook or anybody else’s. Just a few “lines in the sand” which haven’t changed over the last few years:
Pro Choice
Pro Terri Schiavo
Anti-Michael Schiavo
As an example.

By: Romegaguy

Romegaguy — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:51:46 +0000

ditto for Nathan Deal, except its poultry plants and carpet mills instead of south georgia farms

By: ByteMe

ByteMe — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:04:27 +0000

You might as well throw in the part where he’s against illegal immigrants unless the INS rounds them up from a farm in South Georgia that is owned by a contributor to his campaign. Then he’s against the INS for interfering with businesses.

I feel bad for him. It must be hard to go through life with no real compass.

By: Romegaguy

Romegaguy — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:48:37 +0000

Saxby says “I am supportive of reforming health care so that all Americans have access to affordable, quality care. ” but forgot to add “even though I have never tried to support legislation to address this problem…”

By: ByteMe

ByteMe — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:51:06 +0000

You and Fundy should talk. Maybe when he’s allowed back.

By: Game Fan

Game Fan — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:07:22 +0000

Chris
Terri Schiavo was murdered. If you studied the issue instead of playing partisan politics you would realize this. This was a case of the collectivists jumping on board against a helpless woman. So I take it “death panels” are not a big problem with you.
http://www.theschiavostory.com/?gclid=CPHniJHW2ZgCFQIMswod3nm7dQ

By: Game Fan

Game Fan — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:47:22 +0000

Death panels are the “dark ugly side” of how the collectivists think. So much for all the “positivity” and “equal access” to “health care”. They really see no problem with “society” making the “decision” here. Actually it’s quite revealing how one minute so many are wringing their hands about the uninsured and then turn right around with the hand wring about how can “we” pay for “that too”. (“capture and control” theme rears it’s ugly head again) This is just more empowerment for the “centralizers” which included big pharma and the medical industrial complex. You’ve been had. You’re just a number. It’s a big con game and the “representatives” are getting rich on the deal. Another blow to freedom and free markets and competition and alternative medicine. So I hope you supporters of Obamacare have all gone out to get your swine flu vaccination. Otherwise you’re a bunch of hypocrites.

By: Maurice Atkinson

Maurice Atkinson — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:18:36 +0000

Faux talking points? Dream on. Those are facts. How is this piece of legislation going to reduce spending as Obama says? Somebody has been nipping at the egg nog too long, or you have no sense of history. The bubble will burst and your concern of bankrupt individuals over health issues will be the least of your worries.