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		<title>By: Joshua Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201838</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon me--should&#039;ve said &quot;progressive liberal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me&#8211;should&#8217;ve said &#8220;progressive liberal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201832</link>
		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some unasked-for advice: The minute you use the word &quot;liberal&quot;, I&#039;m sure you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about.  At that point, I stop reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some unasked-for advice: The minute you use the word &#8220;liberal&#8221;, I&#8217;m sure you have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.  At that point, I stop reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201827</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byte, you have demonstrated what I believe to be the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives--principle vs. emotion.

Emotions change, but principles do not.  One can rely on tested principles to form a foundation to guide everything he does.  If someone is not settled on the core beliefs on which to base his decisions, he will be unstable and vulnerable to bad decisions based on the emotion of the moment.

We&#039;re seeing bad decisions by liberals (in both parties) in Washington right now because of policy built on emotion-based coffeehouse philosophies rather than on solid principles (healthcare, global warming, stimulus, etc.).  Proven principles teach us what the long term effects of policy will be.  Emotion causes people with good intentions to make bad long term decisions in an effort to solve a present issue.

Pragmatism in the short term can create some real nightmares in the long term.  Entitlement programs are perfect examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byte, you have demonstrated what I believe to be the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives&#8211;principle vs. emotion.</p>
<p>Emotions change, but principles do not.  One can rely on tested principles to form a foundation to guide everything he does.  If someone is not settled on the core beliefs on which to base his decisions, he will be unstable and vulnerable to bad decisions based on the emotion of the moment.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re seeing bad decisions by liberals (in both parties) in Washington right now because of policy built on emotion-based coffeehouse philosophies rather than on solid principles (healthcare, global warming, stimulus, etc.).  Proven principles teach us what the long term effects of policy will be.  Emotion causes people with good intentions to make bad long term decisions in an effort to solve a present issue.</p>
<p>Pragmatism in the short term can create some real nightmares in the long term.  Entitlement programs are perfect examples.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201823</link>
		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moment passed. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moment passed. <img src='http://www.peachpundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: B Balz</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201820</link>
		<dc:creator>B Balz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You two need to have a beer together, this is a &#039;teachable&#039; moment....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You two need to have a beer together, this is a &#8216;teachable&#8217; moment&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in Eastman</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201616</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken in Eastman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indy,

MAYBE without Speaker Richardson&#039;s threats  - and the knowledge that a lot of people are very angry and motivated - we will finally get the right result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indy,</p>
<p>MAYBE without Speaker Richardson&#8217;s threats  &#8211; and the knowledge that a lot of people are very angry and motivated &#8211; we will finally get the right result.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201448</link>
		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, not even.  I agree with you again.  What is wrong with the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, not even.  I agree with you again.  What is wrong with the world?</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201400</link>
		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;ll return the favor and agree with you on this post.  Now we&#039;re even :)

The best politicians we&#039;ve seen over the years have been the ones who understood that compromise gets you closer to your goals than dogmatic principle.  Getting a portion of what you want now is better than getting nothing, even if you have to prioritize your goals.  And if you&#039;re really really &quot;right&quot; about something, that time is on your side and people will eventually come around to your way of thought... or else you probably weren&#039;t really right to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;ll return the favor and agree with you on this post.  Now we&#8217;re even <img src='http://www.peachpundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The best politicians we&#8217;ve seen over the years have been the ones who understood that compromise gets you closer to your goals than dogmatic principle.  Getting a portion of what you want now is better than getting nothing, even if you have to prioritize your goals.  And if you&#8217;re really really &#8220;right&#8221; about something, that time is on your side and people will eventually come around to your way of thought&#8230; or else you probably weren&#8217;t really right to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201324</link>
		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting mix of those to seek council from.

A few thoughts about some of the posts on this thread.  I think that each legislator should have a set of core beliefs that they want to uphold.  There will inevitably come legislation before them where these beliefs will not apply.  That is an area where it is safe to compromise, strike deals, reach across the aisle and foster a working relationship.  Bipartisanship has it&#039;s place, and so do party line votes.  It depends on the legislation.  Notice, this applies equally to members of all parties.

There is no such things a pure candidate that you agree with 100% of the time.  I think that Johnny is an good US Senator that I agree with a lot more than I disagree with.  Some posters on here might have their attitudes improved for a while of the were injected into deep space.  Just kidding, kind of.  A lot of posters have nothing positive to say about anyone.  You know who you are.

&quot;I can’t believe I spend my time reading crap like this. What an idiot.&quot;    Is the idiot that you are referring to yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting mix of those to seek council from.</p>
<p>A few thoughts about some of the posts on this thread.  I think that each legislator should have a set of core beliefs that they want to uphold.  There will inevitably come legislation before them where these beliefs will not apply.  That is an area where it is safe to compromise, strike deals, reach across the aisle and foster a working relationship.  Bipartisanship has it&#8217;s place, and so do party line votes.  It depends on the legislation.  Notice, this applies equally to members of all parties.</p>
<p>There is no such things a pure candidate that you agree with 100% of the time.  I think that Johnny is an good US Senator that I agree with a lot more than I disagree with.  Some posters on here might have their attitudes improved for a while of the were injected into deep space.  Just kidding, kind of.  A lot of posters have nothing positive to say about anyone.  You know who you are.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can’t believe I spend my time reading crap like this. What an idiot.&#8221;    Is the idiot that you are referring to yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: IndyInjun</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201317</link>
		<dc:creator>IndyInjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; I have faith our guys and gals will do the right thing.
&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, how is this different than the faith you put in them BEFORE all of this?

Einstein once said &lt;i&gt;“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> I have faith our guys and gals will do the right thing.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Ah, how is this different than the faith you put in them BEFORE all of this?</p>
<p>Einstein once said <i>“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”</i></p>
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		<title>By: IndyInjun</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201316</link>
		<dc:creator>IndyInjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ain&#039;t the politician&#039;s &#039;goal&#039; he should work for. He should work to keep his promises and to protect the interests of his constituents and when 95% call in opposition, to heed their wishes and vote according to his previously stated principles which are in accordance with the people&#039;s wishes.

Isakson threw these things out the window and now he is demonstrably the biggest fool in Georgia Politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ain&#8217;t the politician&#8217;s &#8216;goal&#8217; he should work for. He should work to keep his promises and to protect the interests of his constituents and when 95% call in opposition, to heed their wishes and vote according to his previously stated principles which are in accordance with the people&#8217;s wishes.</p>
<p>Isakson threw these things out the window and now he is demonstrably the biggest fool in Georgia Politics.</p>
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		<title>By: IndyInjun</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201314</link>
		<dc:creator>IndyInjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byte,

You left out one thing I DEMAND .....

That Isakson keep his word.

He didn&#039;t. He lied about being for every element of what he claimed to be - a REPUBLICAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byte,</p>
<p>You left out one thing I DEMAND &#8230;..</p>
<p>That Isakson keep his word.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t. He lied about being for every element of what he claimed to be &#8211; a REPUBLICAN.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201237</link>
		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One person&#039;s &quot;principles&quot; is another person&#039;s &quot;apartheid&quot;.  It&#039;s all in how you look at it.

I&#039;d rather have pragmatism and realism when it comes to creating legislation.  The moralists want everything to be about morality; the &quot;constitutionalists&quot; want everything rolled back to 1780; the corporatists want everything to be about making business more profitable; and the Progressives want everything to look like Europe.  

The reality is that none will ever get everything they want because each group taken individually tries to impose a burden on enough other people who don&#039;t believe that those &quot;principles&quot; are the right ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One person&#8217;s &#8220;principles&#8221; is another person&#8217;s &#8220;apartheid&#8221;.  It&#8217;s all in how you look at it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have pragmatism and realism when it comes to creating legislation.  The moralists want everything to be about morality; the &#8220;constitutionalists&#8221; want everything rolled back to 1780; the corporatists want everything to be about making business more profitable; and the Progressives want everything to look like Europe.  </p>
<p>The reality is that none will ever get everything they want because each group taken individually tries to impose a burden on enough other people who don&#8217;t believe that those &#8220;principles&#8221; are the right ones.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201236</link>
		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is that our government has been &lt;i&gt;designed&lt;/i&gt; to prevent quick and radical change in favor of incremental changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is that our government has been <i>designed</i> to prevent quick and radical change in favor of incremental changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in Eastman</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201235</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken in Eastman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and while I know that was supposed to be a shot at the GOP in Washington, it&#039;s still true.

Principles are more important that pragmatism (at least most of the time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and while I know that was supposed to be a shot at the GOP in Washington, it&#8217;s still true.</p>
<p>Principles are more important that pragmatism (at least most of the time).</p>
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		<title>By: NorthGAGOP</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorthGAGOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loyalty,
When I met Austin he came across as arrogant, and did lack an understanding of the issues.  When asked about the water issue, he said we can conserve our way out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loyalty,<br />
When I met Austin he came across as arrogant, and did lack an understanding of the issues.  When asked about the water issue, he said we can conserve our way out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: benevolus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201232</link>
		<dc:creator>benevolus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I will not compromise&quot;. Just because you don&#039;t get everything you want RIGHT NOW doesn&#039;t mean you have abandoned your principles. It just means that there are other people in the world who believe differently, and you can keep on working towards your goal even in little steps if that&#039;s what it takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I will not compromise&#8221;. Just because you don&#8217;t get everything you want RIGHT NOW doesn&#8217;t mean you have abandoned your principles. It just means that there are other people in the world who believe differently, and you can keep on working towards your goal even in little steps if that&#8217;s what it takes.</p>
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		<title>By: WCHeadhunter</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201229</link>
		<dc:creator>WCHeadhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The word bipartisan means some larger than usual deception is being carried out&quot;

-George Carlin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The word bipartisan means some larger than usual deception is being carried out&#8221;</p>
<p>-George Carlin</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201214</link>
		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, bipartisanship should not be a goal, no matter how much Congressional Republicans claim it should be a top goal.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, bipartisanship should not be a goal, no matter how much Congressional Republicans claim it should be a top goal.  <img src='http://www.peachpundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/12/10/tired-of-our-advice-seek-these-for-counsel/comment-page-1/#comment-201203</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIMH, to me, principle is more important than bipartisanship.  The idea is not &quot;My way or the highway&quot;--it&#039;s just that there are some concrete truths that I will not compromise.

I watch many politicians and wonder if they have any concrete truths that they stand by.  Sometimes it seems that many are willing to compromise anything in the name of &#039;progress.&#039;  What good is calling something &#039;progress&#039; if you don&#039;t really understand the principles behind the matter and the long term effects?

Some compromise, obviously, is necessary, but bipartisanship should not be a primary legislative goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIMH, to me, principle is more important than bipartisanship.  The idea is not &#8220;My way or the highway&#8221;&#8211;it&#8217;s just that there are some concrete truths that I will not compromise.</p>
<p>I watch many politicians and wonder if they have any concrete truths that they stand by.  Sometimes it seems that many are willing to compromise anything in the name of &#8216;progress.&#8217;  What good is calling something &#8216;progress&#8217; if you don&#8217;t really understand the principles behind the matter and the long term effects?</p>
<p>Some compromise, obviously, is necessary, but bipartisanship should not be a primary legislative goal.</p>
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