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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected on that point, thanks.

Because of this new fact, I&#039;m even more convinced that the prosecuting of death penalty cases needs to be taken out of the hands of county prosecutors and put in the hands of state&#039;s attorneys who do not stand for re-election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected on that point, thanks.</p>
<p>Because of this new fact, I&#8217;m even more convinced that the prosecuting of death penalty cases needs to be taken out of the hands of county prosecutors and put in the hands of state&#8217;s attorneys who do not stand for re-election.</p>
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		<title>By: The Comma Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Comma Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ByteMe - the problem is that under the current system, the Counties don&#039;t bankroll the system.  Under the old system they did.  That changed when Georgia passed the new Public Defender law.  All the money for funding the defense of a Death Penalty case comes from the Public Defender&#039;s Council in Atlanta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ByteMe &#8211; the problem is that under the current system, the Counties don&#8217;t bankroll the system.  Under the old system they did.  That changed when Georgia passed the new Public Defender law.  All the money for funding the defense of a Death Penalty case comes from the Public Defender&#8217;s Council in Atlanta.</p>
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		<title>By: aquaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>aquaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byte,

No I read every pearl.
You begin by dismissing my comments by implying I want to ignore the constitution.  Then basically agree with my point.  Sorry that&#039;s still BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byte,</p>
<p>No I read every pearl.<br />
You begin by dismissing my comments by implying I want to ignore the constitution.  Then basically agree with my point.  Sorry that&#8217;s still BS.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you missed the first sentence of my third paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you missed the first sentence of my third paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: aquaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>aquaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byte,

Your reference to the constitution is total BS.  I never suggested foregoing the presumption of innocence.  I actually made the case for protecting it by directing more funds to cases where guilt or innocence is in question by not wasting millions on defending some dirt bag who commits murder in front of a hundred witnesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byte,</p>
<p>Your reference to the constitution is total BS.  I never suggested foregoing the presumption of innocence.  I actually made the case for protecting it by directing more funds to cases where guilt or innocence is in question by not wasting millions on defending some dirt bag who commits murder in front of a hundred witnesses.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m not surprised that an officer can be hurt.  Anyone can be hurt by a criminal.  It happens all the time.  There is a high turnover rate in that job.  He is not getting a raise this year, but over the years he has had some fun overtime jobs:  working the Olympics, hunting for Eric Rudolph in NC, and he is on the TAC squad, which goes in the prisons if they reach riot level conditions and for shakedowns.

When he was working a shift that involved the inmates going to bed, the TV in the rec room is supposed to be cut off and stay off until morning.  It kept coming back on to entertain the inmates.  The inmates told him that it must be broken because it kept coming back on.  The next day the TV was sent off for repairs to fix the problem.  After a week, they sent the TV back without finding a problem to fix, but the TV stays off when it is supposed to be off now.
(That&#039;s a funny story.)

FYI,  I am fairly certain that he is pro-death penalty, but he doesn&#039;t talk about it publicly because of his job.

As far as the state not managing prisons very well, it&#039;s main job is to keep the criminals locked up and there are few escapes.  There is much room for improvement in some areas though.  Some judges don&#039;t think it&#039;s a big deal for an inmate to have a cell phone.  Cell phones lead to escape attempts and trafficking other banned items, money for payoffs, weapons, drugs, and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m not surprised that an officer can be hurt.  Anyone can be hurt by a criminal.  It happens all the time.  There is a high turnover rate in that job.  He is not getting a raise this year, but over the years he has had some fun overtime jobs:  working the Olympics, hunting for Eric Rudolph in NC, and he is on the TAC squad, which goes in the prisons if they reach riot level conditions and for shakedowns.</p>
<p>When he was working a shift that involved the inmates going to bed, the TV in the rec room is supposed to be cut off and stay off until morning.  It kept coming back on to entertain the inmates.  The inmates told him that it must be broken because it kept coming back on.  The next day the TV was sent off for repairs to fix the problem.  After a week, they sent the TV back without finding a problem to fix, but the TV stays off when it is supposed to be off now.<br />
(That&#8217;s a funny story.)</p>
<p>FYI,  I am fairly certain that he is pro-death penalty, but he doesn&#8217;t talk about it publicly because of his job.</p>
<p>As far as the state not managing prisons very well, it&#8217;s main job is to keep the criminals locked up and there are few escapes.  There is much room for improvement in some areas though.  Some judges don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a big deal for an inmate to have a cell phone.  Cell phones lead to escape attempts and trafficking other banned items, money for payoffs, weapons, drugs, and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote this a while back.  Pasting a link so I don&#039;t have to re-write mostly the same arguments.  

http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/12/16/on-the-death-penalty-victim%E2%80%99s-families-and-jurors/

Short answer, it may not be a deterrent, but it remains an effective tool to generate plea bargains in lieu of expensive death penalty trials.

As for waiting four years and no trial, there are no excuses.  That&#039;s unacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote this a while back.  Pasting a link so I don&#8217;t have to re-write mostly the same arguments.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/12/16/on-the-death-penalty-victim%E2%80%99s-families-and-jurors/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/12/16/on-the-death-penalty-victim%E2%80%99s-families-and-jurors/</a></p>
<p>Short answer, it may not be a deterrent, but it remains an effective tool to generate plea bargains in lieu of expensive death penalty trials.</p>
<p>As for waiting four years and no trial, there are no excuses.  That&#8217;s unacceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many as you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many as you have.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you&#039;ve interviewed how many murderers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you&#8217;ve interviewed how many murderers?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree.  Murderers are reasoning that they can get away with murder with just a few years in jail and hardly any chance of a death penalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.  Murderers are reasoning that they can get away with murder with just a few years in jail and hardly any chance of a death penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And everyone else says &quot;thank goodness I don&#039;t look like ByteMe!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And everyone else says &#8220;thank goodness I don&#8217;t look like ByteMe!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.  Reasonable people don&#039;t murder, so hypothesizing a &quot;reasonable&quot; cause-effect relationship does not follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.  Reasonable people don&#8217;t murder, so hypothesizing a &#8220;reasonable&#8221; cause-effect relationship does not follow.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice strawman.  Find someone else to attack.

As for aquaman, yeah, there&#039;s that whole damn &quot;innocent until proven guilty&quot; thing.  Stupid constitution.  I&#039;m sure the framers weren&#039;t all that interested in it.

Yes, there are definitely &quot;slam dunk&quot; cases.  But there are also marginal cases where the state&#039;s case is flimsy, but the local prosecutor wants to make a name for himself so he can move up in county politics and is willing to do it on the back of an indigent defendant who was caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, but might not be the one who deserves the death penalty.

I wrote it earlier in another thread: we need to take the prosecution (and defense costs) of death penalty cases out of the hands of county prosecutors and put them into the hands of a state attorney&#039;s office.  That way we don&#039;t worry so much about bankrupting a county trying one of these cases and the odds of monkey business are lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice strawman.  Find someone else to attack.</p>
<p>As for aquaman, yeah, there&#8217;s that whole damn &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221; thing.  Stupid constitution.  I&#8217;m sure the framers weren&#8217;t all that interested in it.</p>
<p>Yes, there are definitely &#8220;slam dunk&#8221; cases.  But there are also marginal cases where the state&#8217;s case is flimsy, but the local prosecutor wants to make a name for himself so he can move up in county politics and is willing to do it on the back of an indigent defendant who was caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, but might not be the one who deserves the death penalty.</p>
<p>I wrote it earlier in another thread: we need to take the prosecution (and defense costs) of death penalty cases out of the hands of county prosecutors and put them into the hands of a state attorney&#8217;s office.  That way we don&#8217;t worry so much about bankrupting a county trying one of these cases and the odds of monkey business are lower.</p>
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		<title>By: Romegaguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romegaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The death penalty was an excellent deterrent to the hijackers on Sept 11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The death penalty was an excellent deterrent to the hijackers on Sept 11</p>
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		<title>By: Romegaguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romegaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guns dont kill people. Lethal injections kill people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guns dont kill people. Lethal injections kill people</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that were true, our homicides per-capita would be lower than, say, the UK where they ban ownership of handguns.  But it&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that were true, our homicides per-capita would be lower than, say, the UK where they ban ownership of handguns.  But it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, isn&#039;t it reasonable to believe that when potential murderers see murderers being executed, there is a deterrent effect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, isn&#8217;t it reasonable to believe that when potential murderers see murderers being executed, there is a deterrent effect?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I maintain the death penalty is a deterrent, same as punishing a child is a deterrent.</description>
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		<title>By: Progressive Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry the correctional officer was hurt.  The State has a responsibility to protect correction officers as well as possible. Does it surprise you that a guard in the Georgia sytem could be hurt? Furloughs were the norm in almost every state department, so I don&#039;t doubt they cut funds in corrections, too. This is a state that doesn&#039;t spend wisely in transportation or education.  There is little reason to believe it is going to manage prisons very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry the correctional officer was hurt.  The State has a responsibility to protect correction officers as well as possible. Does it surprise you that a guard in the Georgia sytem could be hurt? Furloughs were the norm in almost every state department, so I don&#8217;t doubt they cut funds in corrections, too. This is a state that doesn&#8217;t spend wisely in transportation or education.  There is little reason to believe it is going to manage prisons very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sleepy Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sleepy Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byte is still in a quandary over that one.  On the one hand, he loves to coddle criminals.  On the other hand, when they kill so many officers of law enforcement, he teeters on the edge of common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byte is still in a quandary over that one.  On the one hand, he loves to coddle criminals.  On the other hand, when they kill so many officers of law enforcement, he teeters on the edge of common sense.</p>
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