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	<title>Comments on: A Tenth For The Ninth; I Need Another Fifth</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel N. Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel N. Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have time this morning to give an extended comment/reply.  But, due to the rarity, I&#039;ll say this.  I agree with GOP GA in that the LP needs to get better organized... which btw was what I ran on when I ran for chair.  How can we expect the voters to allow us to run the state if we can&#039;t fully organize a state party.  We are currently making great strides in this area.

Also, I agree with  Chris, in that the Libertarian Party needs to run viable, electable and qualified candidates.  That is also one of my pet peeves.

That said, ballot access is a huge problem in this state.  especially compared to other states.  The requirement for intrastate partisan offices is too burdensome and the barrier should be lowered.  We know this to be true by all the non-challenges we see... way too many elections are unopposed and that is not good for Georgia or our citizens.  I would gladly trade our state wide ballot access for access to these lower offices.  The D and R leadership knows that if they did this,  they take the chance of allowing the Libertarian Party to get a grass root foothold and only the more principled members of these parties would ever willingly &quot;give&quot; Georgians this option.   Got to run... more later... stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have time this morning to give an extended comment/reply.  But, due to the rarity, I&#8217;ll say this.  I agree with GOP GA in that the LP needs to get better organized&#8230; which btw was what I ran on when I ran for chair.  How can we expect the voters to allow us to run the state if we can&#8217;t fully organize a state party.  We are currently making great strides in this area.</p>
<p>Also, I agree with  Chris, in that the Libertarian Party needs to run viable, electable and qualified candidates.  That is also one of my pet peeves.</p>
<p>That said, ballot access is a huge problem in this state.  especially compared to other states.  The requirement for intrastate partisan offices is too burdensome and the barrier should be lowered.  We know this to be true by all the non-challenges we see&#8230; way too many elections are unopposed and that is not good for Georgia or our citizens.  I would gladly trade our state wide ballot access for access to these lower offices.  The D and R leadership knows that if they did this,  they take the chance of allowing the Libertarian Party to get a grass root foothold and only the more principled members of these parties would ever willingly &#8220;give&#8221; Georgians this option.   Got to run&#8230; more later&#8230; stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No you do not.  At least one, if not two, do not live in it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you do not.  At least one, if not two, do not live in it now.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law states that you don&#039;t have to get signatures if you get 20% in the last Gov. or Presidential election.  The R&#039;s and the D&#039;s do that.

However, if I were a state legislator, I would be OK with requiring all parties to have copies of their rules on file with the county, along with a list of party officers, signatures of 5% of the active registered voters, and registration by party.  No cross voting in the primary.  That also means that voters would have to pick between  R’s, D’s, and L’s on signature petitions.  Now you&#039;d have to sell it to the Gov and a majority of the legislators in both houses.  Good luck with that.

However, if you think about it, it is a level playing field.  You get the signatures to get statewide access, but you fail to get 20% as the R&#039;s and D&#039;s do.  The failure to achieve 20% is yours.   Enjoy your 5% next fall.  See you then.

BTW, I&#039;m not a fan of tax breaks.  I like the fair tax even though John Konop can&#039;t stand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law states that you don&#8217;t have to get signatures if you get 20% in the last Gov. or Presidential election.  The R&#8217;s and the D&#8217;s do that.</p>
<p>However, if I were a state legislator, I would be OK with requiring all parties to have copies of their rules on file with the county, along with a list of party officers, signatures of 5% of the active registered voters, and registration by party.  No cross voting in the primary.  That also means that voters would have to pick between  R’s, D’s, and L’s on signature petitions.  Now you&#8217;d have to sell it to the Gov and a majority of the legislators in both houses.  Good luck with that.</p>
<p>However, if you think about it, it is a level playing field.  You get the signatures to get statewide access, but you fail to get 20% as the R&#8217;s and D&#8217;s do.  The failure to achieve 20% is yours.   Enjoy your 5% next fall.  See you then.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m not a fan of tax breaks.  I like the fair tax even though John Konop can&#8217;t stand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one last quick point about ballot access:

You could achieve equal ballot access and leave the 5% requirement in place. Simply require ALL candidates of ALL parties to get 5% of the registered voters in their districts to sign a petition allowing them to run.

It wouldn&#039;t be a problem at all for Republicans in some districts, Democrats in others, or some combination of Democrats and Republicans in still others.

It may still be extremely tough for the LP to compete in such environments - but at least it would be equal. That&#039;s all I&#039;m asking for. 

A level playing field for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one last quick point about ballot access:</p>
<p>You could achieve equal ballot access and leave the 5% requirement in place. Simply require ALL candidates of ALL parties to get 5% of the registered voters in their districts to sign a petition allowing them to run.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be a problem at all for Republicans in some districts, Democrats in others, or some combination of Democrats and Republicans in still others.</p>
<p>It may still be extremely tough for the LP to compete in such environments &#8211; but at least it would be equal. That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m asking for. </p>
<p>A level playing field for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug:

Why should we be put at a competitive disadvantage when the whole philosophy of our system is a level playing field for all? 

But hey, I am talking to a man who represents a Party who believes the &quot;free market&quot; means giving special tax breaks to your friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug:</p>
<p>Why should we be put at a competitive disadvantage when the whole philosophy of our system is a level playing field for all? </p>
<p>But hey, I am talking to a man who represents a Party who believes the &#8220;free market&#8221; means giving special tax breaks to your friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or the snot side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the snot side.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RW,

DO I have to live in the district to run for the seat?

MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RW,</p>
<p>DO I have to live in the district to run for the seat?</p>
<p>MD</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will ask the question for the 95th time.  Why should the playing field be leveled without a  3rd party earning it?  Field candidates, do the work, get the signatures, win something as a libertarian, not in a non partisan race, get respect, get ballot access.  I believe with effort and results comes reward.  You haven&#039;t earned ballot access, and when you get it statewide, you are a 5% party that costs the taxpayers money for run offs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will ask the question for the 95th time.  Why should the playing field be leveled without a  3rd party earning it?  Field candidates, do the work, get the signatures, win something as a libertarian, not in a non partisan race, get respect, get ballot access.  I believe with effort and results comes reward.  You haven&#8217;t earned ballot access, and when you get it statewide, you are a 5% party that costs the taxpayers money for run offs.</p>
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		<title>By: Fawkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t hold back, Chris.  Tell the LP how you really feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hold back, Chris.  Tell the LP how you really feel.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/11/10/a-tenth-for-the-ninth-i-need-another-fifth/comment-page-1/#comment-197425</link>
		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever told you that was wrong, but I think you know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever told you that was wrong, but I think you know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a highly competent individual who ran for a reasonable office (not some pie-in-the-sky office) who was well known and respected in your community. You&#039;d have won regardless of the letter after your name on the ballot.

The LP&#039;s problem is they run losers who can&#039;t raise money, blame ballot access laws rather than the crappy campaigns and candidates they run. They are only slightly more politically engaged than the person who doesn&#039;t even bother to register to vote. But they can engage in the mutual-masterbation of believing they are pure and would fix everything if only they could get elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a highly competent individual who ran for a reasonable office (not some pie-in-the-sky office) who was well known and respected in your community. You&#8217;d have won regardless of the letter after your name on the ballot.</p>
<p>The LP&#8217;s problem is they run losers who can&#8217;t raise money, blame ballot access laws rather than the crappy campaigns and candidates they run. They are only slightly more politically engaged than the person who doesn&#8217;t even bother to register to vote. But they can engage in the mutual-masterbation of believing they are pure and would fix everything if only they could get elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Fawkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told as a child that my one little vote didn&#039;t matter and that I was just one voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told as a child that my one little vote didn&#8217;t matter and that I was just one voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramblinwreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramblinwreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only his party changed when he switched back to the GOP, not his principles.  I am as devoutly libertarian today as I was when I was elected. I just figured it was easier changing something from the insided than from the outside. You know, like Ron Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only his party changed when he switched back to the GOP, not his principles.  I am as devoutly libertarian today as I was when I was elected. I just figured it was easier changing something from the insided than from the outside. You know, like Ron Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug:

Again, ballot access. We can&#039;t run Libertarians &quot;as Libertarians&quot; in races other than statewide races without having to jump through hoops &lt;i&gt;specifically designed&lt;/i&gt; to keep everyone other than Ds and Rs OUT!

Level the playing field, and you&#039;ll see quite a bit of Libertarians running &lt;b&gt;and winning&lt;/b&gt;.

Of course, it all comes back to the GOP (and Dems) caring more about their own power than doing the right thing, as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug:</p>
<p>Again, ballot access. We can&#8217;t run Libertarians &#8220;as Libertarians&#8221; in races other than statewide races without having to jump through hoops <i>specifically designed</i> to keep everyone other than Ds and Rs OUT!</p>
<p>Level the playing field, and you&#8217;ll see quite a bit of Libertarians running <b>and winning</b>.</p>
<p>Of course, it all comes back to the GOP (and Dems) caring more about their own power than doing the right thing, as always.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The results of the straw poll cast on the day he announced were: 80 for Graves, 35 for Evans, 25 for Jones, 16 for Tarvin, 13 for Dooley, 9 for Hawkins, and 2 for Loftman.  It was good to meet D. Loftman.  I&#039;m not sure if he brought his wife or not.  He did place ahead of Reece and Stephens.

I might have abstained just to keep everyone guessing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The results of the straw poll cast on the day he announced were: 80 for Graves, 35 for Evans, 25 for Jones, 16 for Tarvin, 13 for Dooley, 9 for Hawkins, and 2 for Loftman.  It was good to meet D. Loftman.  I&#8217;m not sure if he brought his wife or not.  He did place ahead of Reece and Stephens.</p>
<p>I might have abstained just to keep everyone guessing.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johns Creek municipal elections are nonpartisan and are held without primaries.  My comment said &quot;as a Libertarian.&quot;
I don&#039;t really care a lot about what&#039;s going on in PA, but if I looked them up, would they be nonpartisan races as well?

Dede would be kicked out of the GOP if she were from Georgia.  I expect Hoffman will run as GOP, win the nomination and win in Novemeber of 2010.  Any Republicans in Georgia endorsing Dems?  If so, they are probably less than 1%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johns Creek municipal elections are nonpartisan and are held without primaries.  My comment said &#8220;as a Libertarian.&#8221;<br />
I don&#8217;t really care a lot about what&#8217;s going on in PA, but if I looked them up, would they be nonpartisan races as well?</p>
<p>Dede would be kicked out of the GOP if she were from Georgia.  I expect Hoffman will run as GOP, win the nomination and win in Novemeber of 2010.  Any Republicans in Georgia endorsing Dems?  If so, they are probably less than 1%.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see some voting records then. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see some voting records then. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what about the past twenty years? If we are going to look  at one central issue, that being larger government - then sure. But on average both parties are just as guilty about not pushing forth what they claim they will do. Partially because the bureaucratic system bogs them down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what about the past twenty years? If we are going to look  at one central issue, that being larger government &#8211; then sure. But on average both parties are just as guilty about not pushing forth what they claim they will do. Partially because the bureaucratic system bogs them down.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug:

Again, Karen Richardson, Johns Creek City Council. I know she&#039;s outside the 9th and therefore probably off your radar (heck, I do GOOD when I keep 2 counties in the 2nd on my radar, not really blaming you there), but she is an  elected Libertarian in GA.

In PA, LP-Pa picked up 14 municipal seats across the State last week.

But even the candidates we run stick to LP principles. Candidates the GOP runs endorse Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug:</p>
<p>Again, Karen Richardson, Johns Creek City Council. I know she&#8217;s outside the 9th and therefore probably off your radar (heck, I do GOOD when I keep 2 counties in the 2nd on my radar, not really blaming you there), but she is an  elected Libertarian in GA.</p>
<p>In PA, LP-Pa picked up 14 municipal seats across the State last week.</p>
<p>But even the candidates we run stick to LP principles. Candidates the GOP runs endorse Democrats.</p>
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