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	<title>Comments on: Remembering A Friend &#8211; And In Doing So, The Key Founding Principle Of Our Country</title>
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		<title>By: Fawkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bucky,

Islam has millions of followers world-wide. It is also the fastest growing religion. If all Muslims believed the way you claim: &quot;Death to Israel, America is Great Satan, etc&quot;, wouldn&#039;t the world be in mass hysteria as Muslims world-wide tried to kill off all Christians and Jews? Yes, there is violence in the world, but I would argue that &quot;radical Islam&quot; is a small fringe of the national religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bucky,</p>
<p>Islam has millions of followers world-wide. It is also the fastest growing religion. If all Muslims believed the way you claim: &#8220;Death to Israel, America is Great Satan, etc&#8221;, wouldn&#8217;t the world be in mass hysteria as Muslims world-wide tried to kill off all Christians and Jews? Yes, there is violence in the world, but I would argue that &#8220;radical Islam&#8221; is a small fringe of the national religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Plyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Plyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you&#039;re trying to pick a fight, so here&#039;s the point since it&#039;s not obvious to you.

* This man had been vocal for some time, yet PC kept him in the Army AND in the command structure. Now good soldiers are dead with their families dealing w/ the actions of this gunman. Perhaps it&#039;s the same PC that Icarus espouses. (hope that&#039;s not true but that&#039;s what it looks like to me)
* Icarus made the Methodist reference because he is Methodist. I don&#039;t know of any Methodists who are talking about terrorist actions against America or our military. If they were talking about it, then they should come under surveillance. (bad comparison by Icarus in my judgement)
* Many Muslims do believe that the US is the great Satan, that Israel should be destroyed, that all who do not bend the knee to Allah should die, that conversion to Islam can come by subjucation, ETC. If more Muslims would renounce these things then everybody would be safer. (If you claim to be a Muslim, I hope you don&#039;t believe these things...not all who profess to be Muslims believe this stuff.)

I hope this clears up things for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you&#8217;re trying to pick a fight, so here&#8217;s the point since it&#8217;s not obvious to you.</p>
<p>* This man had been vocal for some time, yet PC kept him in the Army AND in the command structure. Now good soldiers are dead with their families dealing w/ the actions of this gunman. Perhaps it&#8217;s the same PC that Icarus espouses. (hope that&#8217;s not true but that&#8217;s what it looks like to me)<br />
* Icarus made the Methodist reference because he is Methodist. I don&#8217;t know of any Methodists who are talking about terrorist actions against America or our military. If they were talking about it, then they should come under surveillance. (bad comparison by Icarus in my judgement)<br />
* Many Muslims do believe that the US is the great Satan, that Israel should be destroyed, that all who do not bend the knee to Allah should die, that conversion to Islam can come by subjucation, ETC. If more Muslims would renounce these things then everybody would be safer. (If you claim to be a Muslim, I hope you don&#8217;t believe these things&#8230;not all who profess to be Muslims believe this stuff.)</p>
<p>I hope this clears up things for you.</p>
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		<title>By: ByteMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByteMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Near as I can tell, the best way is to have a long-term holding pattern of military action against the mad bombers while encourage the creation of a strong middle class that has a stake in their own society/country and educating their women so they&#039;re more likely to have fewer children and more of a stake in their society.

Of course, this also means that some of the countries need to stop sucking on the oil teet and using that to hold power in the hands of a very few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Near as I can tell, the best way is to have a long-term holding pattern of military action against the mad bombers while encourage the creation of a strong middle class that has a stake in their own society/country and educating their women so they&#8217;re more likely to have fewer children and more of a stake in their society.</p>
<p>Of course, this also means that some of the countries need to stop sucking on the oil teet and using that to hold power in the hands of a very few.</p>
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		<title>By: Sleepy Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sleepy Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s &quot;we&quot;, Sucka?

($5,000,000,000,000 if you know the precise movie line that comes next)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8221;, Sucka?</p>
<p>($5,000,000,000,000 if you know the precise movie line that comes next)</p>
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		<title>By: MikeS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam practices by many Muslims is a fair and honorable religion.  However, Heretics/Cults rise up in Islam as they do in many religions.  Most of the terrorists are more Heretics than true Muslims. The Black Panthers were heretics as is Bin Ladin.   Traditional Islam needs to wage a campaign, a holy campaign against those who want to re-interrupt Islam.   Now, I do not want to appear that I do not recognize some of the Theological problems with Islam, but the best way to defeat Islamic Cults is to encourage counter reformation like drives of the traditional Islamic leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam practices by many Muslims is a fair and honorable religion.  However, Heretics/Cults rise up in Islam as they do in many religions.  Most of the terrorists are more Heretics than true Muslims. The Black Panthers were heretics as is Bin Ladin.   Traditional Islam needs to wage a campaign, a holy campaign against those who want to re-interrupt Islam.   Now, I do not want to appear that I do not recognize some of the Theological problems with Islam, but the best way to defeat Islamic Cults is to encourage counter reformation like drives of the traditional Islamic leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: benevolus</title>
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		<dc:creator>benevolus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So spit it out, Butch. What are you saying? Because some Muslims can talk trash, we should...what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So spit it out, Butch. What are you saying? Because some Muslims can talk trash, we should&#8230;what?</p>
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		<title>By: Clone Of B. Plyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clone Of B. Plyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: benevolus</title>
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		<dc:creator>benevolus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BP, that is all wrong, and I think you know it.
The government isn&#039;t conducting surveillance on Muslims just because they are Muslims, and I don&#039;t think they could even if they wanted to. Hopefully they are conducting surveillance on anyone who seems to be a threat, and I&#039;m not sure that &quot;calling for the destruction of Israel&quot; even qualifies (the &quot;destruction&quot; of Israel doesn&#039;t necessarily involve bombs). If there happens to be more Muslims than Methodists requiring surveillance right now, then fine. But I doubt that anything else can be extrapolated from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BP, that is all wrong, and I think you know it.<br />
The government isn&#8217;t conducting surveillance on Muslims just because they are Muslims, and I don&#8217;t think they could even if they wanted to. Hopefully they are conducting surveillance on anyone who seems to be a threat, and I&#8217;m not sure that &#8220;calling for the destruction of Israel&#8221; even qualifies (the &#8220;destruction&#8221; of Israel doesn&#8217;t necessarily involve bombs). If there happens to be more Muslims than Methodists requiring surveillance right now, then fine. But I doubt that anything else can be extrapolated from that.</p>
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		<title>By: chamblee54</title>
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		<dc:creator>chamblee54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this story. It motivated me to write a &lt;a href=&quot;http://chamblee54.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/funerals-in-pakistan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this story. It motivated me to write a <a href="http://chamblee54.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/funerals-in-pakistan/" rel="nofollow">post</a> on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Funerals In Pakistan &#171; Chamblee54</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funerals In Pakistan &#171; Chamblee54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stories of good Moslems, and bad Moslems. We are reminded that this is a country of diversity.   One story today was in Peach Pundit. The scribe tells of a young man in his hometown. The young man was a Moslem, whose family had [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stories of good Moslems, and bad Moslems. We are reminded that this is a country of diversity.   One story today was in Peach Pundit. The scribe tells of a young man in his hometown. The young man was a Moslem, whose family had [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there were more Democrats as well as independents as well.  But the person in charge does not want it to be so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there were more Democrats as well as independents as well.  But the person in charge does not want it to be so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Plyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Plyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your friend Mark &amp; this gunman&#039; s story have very little in common.  The more facts that are coming out about the Ft. Hood incident point to the conclusion that it was a terrorist attack. 

If the government was doing surveillance because this guy was a Muslim, then they did a poor job. If they were even doing it because of his statements &amp; associations, then they did a poor job.

It would be a big stretch &amp; you should be surprised if the gov&#039;t begins surveillance on Methodists. As far as I know, the Methodists of your persuasion are not calling for the destruction of Israel, killing of infidels, etc.  

I like your story, but your conclusions are all wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your friend Mark &amp; this gunman&#8217; s story have very little in common.  The more facts that are coming out about the Ft. Hood incident point to the conclusion that it was a terrorist attack. </p>
<p>If the government was doing surveillance because this guy was a Muslim, then they did a poor job. If they were even doing it because of his statements &amp; associations, then they did a poor job.</p>
<p>It would be a big stretch &amp; you should be surprised if the gov&#8217;t begins surveillance on Methodists. As far as I know, the Methodists of your persuasion are not calling for the destruction of Israel, killing of infidels, etc.  </p>
<p>I like your story, but your conclusions are all wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, it goes without saying, but Icarus, your post is great. And I should probably stay on topic. Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, it goes without saying, but Icarus, your post is great. And I should probably stay on topic. Oops.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are moments when I wish that Spacey still had posting privileges here. And then, sadly, she reminds me why she does not.

It&#039;s too bad, really. I liked it quite a bit better when there were more Democrats who posted on the front page. It gave the place more balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are moments when I wish that Spacey still had posting privileges here. And then, sadly, she reminds me why she does not.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad, really. I liked it quite a bit better when there were more Democrats who posted on the front page. It gave the place more balance.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemcduff</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluemcduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding work, Icarus.

Thanks for posting and writing this--well worth the read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding work, Icarus.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting and writing this&#8211;well worth the read!</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of what I have seen posted on this subject today.  Specifically, I agree the most with Josh, Trica and Buzz.

We cannot give in and start thinking that all Moslems are bad people.  As for the ones who claim that there is a jihad against the west and openly call for the destruction of Israel and the United States, as far as I am concerned, we are at war with them.  The wars that we are engaged in Afghanistan and Iraq are seen as isolated wars.  For those who see them that way, I am telling you that you are wrong.  Those wars are part of a global war on terror.  The minute we think it&#039;s over without those calling the shots for radical terrorists calling for an end of using violence and terror as political tools, we are in trouble.

I like to watch MMA or for the old people on here, that’s boxing with a little more thrown in.  In MMA or boxing, you can get knocked out when you let your guard down.

As far as Fort Hood goes, Hasan blew a fuse.  Something went wrong in his head.  He knew he was going to die and he was out to take as many people as possible with him.  Crackpot, yes.  Terrorist, I think he meets the definition.  I think he wanted to make political change using terror.  He tried to contact Al-Qaeda.  He should have been booted out of the Army just for that.  People should loose their jobs over this attack.  People lost their lives.

Icarus&#039; friend Mohammed sounds like he was a nice guy.  The world would be a better place with more people like him than Hasan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of what I have seen posted on this subject today.  Specifically, I agree the most with Josh, Trica and Buzz.</p>
<p>We cannot give in and start thinking that all Moslems are bad people.  As for the ones who claim that there is a jihad against the west and openly call for the destruction of Israel and the United States, as far as I am concerned, we are at war with them.  The wars that we are engaged in Afghanistan and Iraq are seen as isolated wars.  For those who see them that way, I am telling you that you are wrong.  Those wars are part of a global war on terror.  The minute we think it&#8217;s over without those calling the shots for radical terrorists calling for an end of using violence and terror as political tools, we are in trouble.</p>
<p>I like to watch MMA or for the old people on here, that’s boxing with a little more thrown in.  In MMA or boxing, you can get knocked out when you let your guard down.</p>
<p>As far as Fort Hood goes, Hasan blew a fuse.  Something went wrong in his head.  He knew he was going to die and he was out to take as many people as possible with him.  Crackpot, yes.  Terrorist, I think he meets the definition.  I think he wanted to make political change using terror.  He tried to contact Al-Qaeda.  He should have been booted out of the Army just for that.  People should loose their jobs over this attack.  People lost their lives.</p>
<p>Icarus&#8217; friend Mohammed sounds like he was a nice guy.  The world would be a better place with more people like him than Hasan.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Perkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww hell... pretty much every scripture book is crazy if you read it in the entirety and take everything literally.  Yeah, Christian fundamentalists have the old loophole that &quot;Jesus &#039;re-explained&#039; the portions of the Old Testament that we don&#039;t like&quot;.  However, even before Jesus it wasn&#039;t like the Jews were literally stoning people to death for picking up sticks on a Saturday.  Nobody even comes close to all the literal text except for maybe the Amish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww hell&#8230; pretty much every scripture book is crazy if you read it in the entirety and take everything literally.  Yeah, Christian fundamentalists have the old loophole that &#8220;Jesus &#8216;re-explained&#8217; the portions of the Old Testament that we don&#8217;t like&#8221;.  However, even before Jesus it wasn&#8217;t like the Jews were literally stoning people to death for picking up sticks on a Saturday.  Nobody even comes close to all the literal text except for maybe the Amish.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  I think many of us venture across it at times, but few do so with initial intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  I think many of us venture across it at times, but few do so with initial intent.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Perkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am oftentimes snarky, and sometimes I can be mean without being funny.  I&#039;m very grateful that Spacey has been reappearing on Peach Pundit lately... to remind us of exactly where the line is, and what we look like to others when we cross it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am oftentimes snarky, and sometimes I can be mean without being funny.  I&#8217;m very grateful that Spacey has been reappearing on Peach Pundit lately&#8230; to remind us of exactly where the line is, and what we look like to others when we cross it.</p>
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		<title>By: SpaceyG</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/11/08/remembering-a-friend-and-in-doing-so-the-key-founding-principle-of-our-country/comment-page-1/#comment-196843</link>
		<dc:creator>SpaceyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.justinkownacki.com/2009/11/04/yall-stupid/</description>
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