Jim Marshall Still Opposes Health Care Legislation

Good for him.

Rep. Jim Marshall, D-Ga., said he would oppose proposals from his own party on health-care reform during a phone interview Tuesday from his Washington office. Last week, the Senate Finance Committee passed its health-care reform package with one senator, Olympia Snowe of Maine, crossing party lines to support the bill.

The bill, written largely by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., is generally considered to be the version of health-care reform legislation most likely to garner support from moderate Republicans.

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  1. John Konop says:

    ALL SHOULD READ!!!!

    5 Myths About Health Care Around the World

    As Americans search for the cure to what ails our health-care system, we’ve overlooked an invaluable source of ideas and solutions: the rest of the world. All the other industrialized democracies have faced problems like ours, yet they’ve found ways to cover everybody — and still spend far less than we do.

    I’ve traveled the world from Oslo to Osaka to see how other developed democracies provide health care. Instead of dismissing these models as “socialist,” we could adapt their solutions to fix our problems. To do that, we first have to dispel a few myths about health care abroad:

    1. It’s all socialized medicine out there.

    Not so. Some countries, such as Britain, New Zealand and Cuba, do provide health care in government hospitals, with the government paying the bills. Others — for instance, Canada and Taiwan — rely on private-sector providers, paid for by government-run insurance. But many wealthy countries — including Germany, the Netherlands, Japan and Switzerland — provide universal coverage using private doctors, private hospitals and private insurance plans.

    In some ways, health care is less “socialized” overseas than in the United States. Almost all Americans sign up for government insurance (Medicare) at age 65. In Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands, seniors stick with private insurance plans for life. Meanwhile, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is one of the planet’s purest examples of government-run health care.

    more

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/21/AR2009082101778.html

    • GOPGeorgia says:

      Do more Americans citizens leave the US to get health care treatment than foreign nationals come to the US for health care?

      • John Konop says:

        The answer is yes. This does not include other boarder states and people buying drugs from overseas on the internet.

        Californians crossing border to Mexico for health care

        Nearly a million Californians, perhaps hundreds of thousands more, cross the border to Mexico every year because they cannot afford the rising cost of health care in the United States, according to UCLA researchers.

        The study by the school’s Center for Health Policy Research, published Tuesday in the journal Medical Care, affirms what has long been suspected – that the untamable cost of medicine is forcing many, particularly Latino immigrants, to look outside California for medical and dental care. As casualties from the recession rise and as budget-strapped government programs eliminate health services, more people are expected to head south to fill prescriptions, get teeth fixed or undergo care for chronic illnesses.

        According to the study, at least 952,000 California adults – 488,000 of them described by the study as Mexican immigrants and about a quarter as non-Latino whites – head south annually for their medical, dental and prescription services.

        The number seeking care in Mexico may actually be much larger, because findings are based on 2001 data from the California Health Interview Survey and do not take into account today’s higher rates of unemployment and the increasing rate of the medically uninsured.

        “We suspect the number has grown by leaps and bounds,” said Gil Ojeda, executive director of the California Program on Access to Care, which is housed at UC Berkeley’s School of Public Health.

        The recession has left many people out of work and without health insurance. About 6.6 million Californians were medically uninsured in 2007, and Latinos are twice as likely as whites to be without insurance, according to the California HealthCare Foundation.

        http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/68906.html

        • GOPGeorgia says:

          “According to the study, at least 952,000 California adults – 488,000 of them described by the study as Mexican immigrants and about a quarter as non-Latino whites – head south annually for their medical, dental and prescription services.”

          Are they going across the boarder for health care or commuting to (home- Mexico) and from work (US)?

          • John Konop says:

            GOPGEORGIA

            Why would you cherry pick facts? It is obvious if it is this big 2001 and this is only 1 boarder state the numbers are huge! And once again we did not even add in drugs bought on the internet, elective procedures, U.S. insurance companies offering foreign care at a discount…..

            GOP your pants are showing on this one!

            … The number seeking care in Mexico may actually be much larger, because findings are based on 2001 data from the California Health Interview Survey and do not take into account today’s higher rates of unemployment and the increasing rate of the medically uninsured….

          • GOPGeorgia says:

            JK,

            I hope my pants are always showing on this blog. I don’t want to be seen naked on here.

            As far as facts go, you cited a source and I question the validity of it. Raw data can have more than on interpretation. The question remains, how many of these people that go to Mexico are really from there? Awaiting an answer.

        • Game Fan says:

          John
          What percentage of these people who leave the U.S. for treatment in Mexico do so to receive treatments which are outlawed here in the U.S.???????

    • LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

      Interesting article John. Another point about VA health care. Earlier in the year, the “Communist” Obama adminstration looked at privatizing some aspects of the VA…but guess who opposed it? You guessed it, the same Republicans who oppose “socialized” health care. In fact, the GA Senate even introduced a resolution opposing such a move…last year’s SR 626.

      Talk about a world turned upside down.

    • Three Jack says:

      figures konop would source an extremist writer who opposes private healthcare. here is a quote from t.r. reid, “You can’t allow a profit to be made on the basic package of health insurance.”

      • John Konop says:

        Three Jack

        As usual no facts all spin and not intelligent to understand the issue. If you read the article he was not supporting either side only pointing out facts. But you would rather tell us what you FEEL and spew out mindless talking points than actually think!

        • Three Jack says:

          konop, i hear all the anti-profit rhetoric i can stand coming from dems everyday. i’m not sure what relevance your government expansion post has on this thread where a dem is acknowledged for opposing what you support.

          • John Konop says:

            Three Jack

            The Senior Bill of Rights from the GOP increases payment to seniors on a system that already pays out 3 dollars for every dollar the average Senior put in. And nobody argues even without the increase Medicare payments you support Medicare will BK our country in less than 20 years if we do not make major changes ASAP!

            If Tea Party supporters really were fiscal conservatives they would be all over this issue!

          • Game Fan says:

            Perhaps John is advocating more “free trade” with health care. If so then I have to agree. Of course as a “Paulista” this blogger here realizes the difference between real free trade and “free trade” via treaties and “agreements” ect… (which is managed trade for large corporations)

          • Three Jack says:

            if it takes three posts to correctly state a challenge to my intelligence, you probably aren’t in a position to do so.

          • John Konop says:

            Three Jack

            I am blessed that math and logic skills pay more than writing skills in general! Once again you avoid the topic and fall back on personal attacks and or mindless talking points!

  2. Bucky Plyler says:

    I think the reason why Marshall is opposed is that he wants to get re-elected. The majority of his voters don’t want what is being proposed. If he votes for it (which is probable) he digs himself a big hole.

    • ByteMe says:

      Actually, you have it exactly wrong, Bucky. A solid majority — upwards of 65% — want what’s being proposed and more.

        • Bucky Plyler says:

          First, that pole is suspect nationally. Secondly, it ain’t no where near 65% in his district. (is that enough southern negatives?!)

          • ByteMe says:

            How do you think he won in his district? Because it’s not a majority white southern cracker district. 🙂

      • Icarus says:

        If the folks in D.C. believed that 65% of the people really supported this plan, then not only would Democrats have already pushed it through, they would have had significant Republican help in doing so.

        • ByteMe says:

          *shrug* The Republican base is clearly not part of the 65%. And the Dems only have a super-majority if they hold together, and you know they aren’t exactly the poster child for … um… the homogeneous GOP.

          The horse trading is going on now behind closed doors, just as I said would happen a few months back. Just wait and see what emerges in a few weeks. Could be gumbo. Could be tofu. Hard to say at this point.

          • Icarus says:

            Find me any other issue that has passed that has/had 65% support. There aren’t any.

            If it were at 65%, you would have anyone “the base” has ever called a squishy moderate (i.e., sane) trying to get their photo made with Obama in the Rose Garden at the signing ceremony.

            Getting 65% of the people to say “Do you support Health Care Reform” is pretty easy. I’m in that camp. When you start polling this plan, the numbers drop well below 50%.

          • ByteMe says:

            Which plan? There are 5 of them right now with different details. Do tell which details of which plan that’s still in play has been polled with any degree of accuracy? The only one that matters is “do you want to see health care reform?” because when it comes time to vote, that’s going to be the overriding question.

          • Icarus says:

            Really?

            You really believe THAT is what’s going to matter?

            No, people will care about the details. 65% of the people want something for nothing.

            That isn’t one of the 5 plans.

          • ByteMe says:

            As I wrote a few minutes ago: *shrug*.

            We’ll see. Everything between here and there is just entertainment to sell feminine products anyway.

        • seenbetrdayz says:

          Hell, at 65%, they wouldn’t need much more to ratify an amendment, which is what they should do if they want to consider the healthcare issue.

          But they won’t.

        • rugby says:

          You honestly think Democrats would ever a) join together or b ) show courage to do anything? This of course is to say nothing about the risible notion that Republicans would join together with Democrats on anything.

          Huh. You must Democrats confused with some other party.

    • Doug Deal says:

      PD,

      Marshall is about Marshall and no one else. Whatever gets him as much time in the House as possible is all he really seems to care about. So don’t expect him to do much of anything but blend into the background as far as his constituents go.

  3. Progressive Dem says:

    He has to be about ego. A Democrat opposed to a concensus health care reform bill, is not a Democrat. He could be against any other issue, but not health care reform. It has been a fundamental goal of the party since Harry Truman.

    • Well, we tried to get rid of him buy you guys kept putting him back up. 😛

      This is what happens when you run in a district that is so moderate. You have to play to both sides, and make strategic calculations. Marshall voted for the bailout – if he keeps following more liberal voting patterns he loses a chunk of support.

      If he was cookie cutter, he wouldn’t keep getting reelected. That’s the nature of the district.

      • Doug Deal says:

        RD,

        I disagree. The district is R+10, which is the 14th most conservative district held by a Dem. The problem is that Marshall was already in power when the legislature increased the partisan leaning of the district. This meant a well known entrenched incumbent was on defense instead of an open seat.

        In an open seat there is virtually no chance of a Dem winning this district, unless the Republican candidate had some kind of major flaw.

  4. Game Fan says:

    Republicans with some BALLS won’t go near this fiasco. Of course look at some of the pathetic losers under the big “R” these days. Uh, perhaps part of the problem is too many folks (like Icarus, maybe, I’m just not sure) simply want “reform” which in DC parlance translates to “gravy train”.

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