Rep. David Scott’s office was vandalized after someone painted a 4 foot swastika on the door.
This type of stuff needs to end now.
Swastika painted on Rep. Scott’s office door
This type of stuff needs to end now.
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I don’t advocate swastika painting for any reason. However, after listening to Rep. Scott’s remarks during his town hall meeting, one could easily expect that people would be upset with him. That would include vandals as well.
The best thing he could do is have another press conference or release a statement apologizing for his remarks to those he is supposed to be representing. If he doesn’t want harsh reactions then he shouldn’t get up there & say stupid,condesending remrks to the crowd.
Nice Bucky. Should Congressman Scott also apologize for having a wall for someone to spray paint?
Enough is enough. Pictures of Obama as Hitler, accusations that the Democrats are fascists, shouting down elected officials rather than dialouge. If you want to see brown shirt thugs, look right.
My right is your left and that is where you’ll find the radicals.
Debbie, define fascism and then show me how Democrats are fascist.
Two words: General Motors, Bird.
Also, from Wikipedia:
“Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.[6] Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state.[7] Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.[8]“
Point 1: Obama’s healthcare plan tells us that people over 55 years old can wait FOREVER for their doctor’s appointment. And, the life of adults with cerebral palsy are worth allowing to die. (survival of the fittest concept, Bird.)
Point 2: Democrats do not care about any other party but Democrats and seek to demonize all opponents. Thus, try to kill the Republican Party and have only ONE party in this country.
Point 3: Fascists “forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement”…well, Bird, that certainly looks a LOT like what Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are doing when they call Americans who protest their plan “Nazis and swastika-carrying”.
Your Obama sends his union thugs to oppress any dissent by anyone and they have no objection to using VIOLENCE to carry out their message:
http://urbangrounds.com/2009/08/07/seiu-thugs/
THIS sh*t happned, Bird. Your freaking political party are advocating the process of stomping out ALL dissent to your plans.
If you support any of this, Bird, you ARE a Fascist.
Were you so quick to jump to Bush’s defense when the same things were being done to him – Bird? I bet not.
Just like the Obama “Joker” posters that are floating around the streets of LA these days — people want to decry this as racist and the work of radicals, but when Vanity Fair featured a cartoon of Bush as the “Joker” or when LA Weekly featured Bush as a vampire, I don’t seem to recall anything being said, by anyone.
None of it’s right — but karma has a way of making sure things even out.
What are you talking about?
Simple question. Do you think this was wrong?
This was wrong…BUT we really have no idea if the person who did it was Republican, Democrat, or some kid who had a wild idea to “take action” without anyone else around.
Nice Bucky. Should Congressman Scott also apologize for having a wall for someone to spray paint?
Enough is enough. Pictures of Obama as Hitler, accusations that the Democrats are fascists, shouting down elected officials rather than dialoge. If you want to see brown shirt thugs, look right.
Bird,
It wasn’t “brown shirt thugs” who beat and kicked Kenneth Gladney last week in St. Louis, MO, it was brown shirted UNION THUGS:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,538799,00.html
This is absurd–painting a swastika on his office door is counterproductive and moronic.
What could possibly be gained from doing this if you oppose him?
I thought the whole point of the opposition was to persuade him to vote against the bill and this hurts the cause greatly in doing so.
At best, all this has done is made him more recalcitrant and more likely to dig in his heels.
Like David Scott would actually vote against Pelosi & Obama?
It’s rare but he’s done it before–such as the authorization to use force in regard to the Iraq War.
I think Jason’s succint advice is more appropriate.
His advice is appropriate, but the people who do such things are not ones to take anyone’s advice.
We don’t know who did this. It may have been done to take some of the heat off of Scott for his out burst. It could have been done by an angry protester. We just don’t know at this point
What outburst are you referring to?
If either scenerio I mentioned is correct, then it was wrong!!
Yeah, someone painted gang graffiti on a boxcar last night in the Bronx, too. So what.
Wow.
Mr. Morris unless you live or work out o a boxcar in the Bronx, there is absolutely no comparison.
@debbie0040 “We” are whom?
Mr. Morris unless you live or work out of a boxcar in the Bronx, AND ARE S ITTING LAWMAKER, there is absolutely no comparison.
We as in the public
I’m just tired of these people whining. They entered public service of their own volition. There are idiots in this country on all sides of every debate, and making such a big deal of irresponsible and ignorant behavior is merely a distraction.
So you’re not tired of the swastika painting, but you are tired of the complaining about the swastika painting.
The whining happens a whole lot more by a whole lot more people than swastika paintings.
So easily distracted…
The use of the terms Nazi and fascist and the invoking of Hitler in political debate in America should end. The left calls the right Nazi and fascist. The right calls the left the same thing. It is all so silly and thoughtless.
Even though I agree with you I just voted down your comment because I am a comment Nazi.
I was thinking about this the other night when I was reading about how some on the left were calling protesters and healthcare opponents unpatriotic. I can remember just a little while back when the right was calling the left unpatriotic for not supporting Bush, the Iraq war, etc.
It is amazing how both sides act the same way and say the same type of things when in power. All while the average, American person is forgot about in the process.
Full disclosure: I am a Republican.
That could mean there’s no difference between the two parties, but that’s a given even without the slurs.
But…by definition, the Left IS “Socialist” and were the “Nazis” and were the Marxists.
There is a difference between being on the left and being a socialist or a Marxist, the same way there is a difference between being on the right and being a fascist.
But things such as facts don’t really matter because that may have been Bill Simon writing high-larious satire. Which he’s known for.
Think about it… Scott catches heat for his outburst then goes on the liberal media circuit Monday saying he thinks there’s a racial component. Pelosi accuses protesters of carrying swatsikas (untrue) and then suddenly there’s a swastika painted on one of Scott’s offices. It’s probably a inside job done by one of Obama’s union thugs to deflect attention away from the health care bill. Now they can chew up the airwaves bashing the Nazi protesters. Typical leftwing playbook.
HAHAHA…what?
It could have been aliens. You have NO proof.
The question is, which one of his staffers did this.
I say that in jest, but the best thing is probably to ignore these events when they happen because either way they are done to manipulate people, and strong reactions just plays into their hands.
Look at the women who faked an assault during the Presidential election last year, saying she was attacked by an Obama supporter. It would be my guess that this type of over-the-top nonsense is more often a fake than anything real.
Absolutely incorrect. To ignore it assumes that it IS a fake.
Terrorism is not to be ignored. Ever.
To ignore it, removes its effect. Someone who wants to control you wants you to over-react, one way or another.
Think of it this way. What rational opponent would put this on his door? None. What rational supporter would put this on his door? None. What type of substance filled debate comes out of this? None.
The fact is, someone on the left wants to use this as a hammer to unfairly beat down people with legitimate concerns on the right, someone loon on the right with no legitimacy thinks he is “intimidating” someone on the left, or some joker just wants to stoke fires of animosity. These are the people you want to empower?
There’s a latin term here which might be helpful – prima facie.
Otherwise you might want to call George Nourey’s nee’ Art Bell’s Coast To Coast
So did you show the same rush to judgement when Ashely Todd faked her way onto national news?
When it comes to politics, everyone should be skeptical of pretty much anything prima facie.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302203/posts
I’m skeptical of anything that comes with the url freerepublic.com
So am I, but the original article has been removed from the SFGate, which is where I new it was from originally.
For someone who claims to not hold a leftist agenda, you certainly play their game enough.
Doug, why do you always come back to that?
Do I need to always also says “DailyKos is nuts too” so that I have karmic balance?
It would help.
Well it ain’t. So feel free to continue to call me a leftist. It’s not like I ain’t used to it.
grift, you DO realize you started us down this path. Look at what you freakin’ wrote.
You attacked the reference I posted simply because of its source. How is this different than any run-of-the-mill leftist? The story originally was posted in the SF Gate, not the Free Republic, yet your need to poo-poo my point with an ad hominem might have prevented you from seeing that. Was it untrue? Was it unfair?
Back to the incident.
The fact is that rational people do not use these techniques. It is unfair to paint an entire side of an argument with the actions of zealots, or you legitimize the zealots. This appears to be what the left would rather do, than answer legitimate concerns on healthcare.
When such epithets appear tailor made for one side or another, my first instinct is to think that it comes from the side it benefits. Which side do YOU think this benefits?
Yeah Doug. Because the right neeeeeeeever does that. Please see this “macho’s” latest comments about brownshirts.
As far as freerepublic. as I’ve explained before, if you use an insane source and freerepublic is one of the insanest, then yes, I’m going to judge the credibility of your argument based on that source.
That ain’t going to change no matter what names you call me.
So, it is OK for you to do it because people on the right do it?
I particularly like how you avoided the question as to who this incident benefits. Also, the questions as to whether or not the source you refused to accept printed anything untrue or unfair.
So have you finally come out of the leftist closet and stopped parading around like you are anything close to independent?
Sure. Fine. Sign me up. Where do I turn in my guns and copy of Adam Smith?
Well that’s settled. Who says we cannot still resolve the big issues of the day with lively debate.
What’s more obnoxious than a spray-painted swastika on a Congressman’s office?
The people here who justify, downplay, deny & deflect.
Yeah, fan flames of something you know nothing about, because you think it benefits your side political.
This is irresponsible. Until the people who committed have been caught, it is just as likely that it was someone from the left staging a convenient incident, or someone who does not easily fit into any political category.
Doug! Seriously! Who drew the gun first in this fight? Look back over the comments! It took all of 5 minutes for someone to bring out the “it was probably a liberal set up” argument. But then again I’m just another leftist….
So you don’t think there is any possibility of a liberal doing it?
No. I just think based on the PRIMA FACIE evidence that it is unlikely.
I don’t think this rises to the level of prima facie evidence.
My point is that we don’t know who it is and until then it is just conjecture by people who want to stir flames of hatred against one side or another.
Even if the people are found, these are not the actions of people who are rational, and thus, the rational debate of heathcare reform should not take such things into consideration, or we have legitimaized the zealots, from one side or another.
The irony that while he claims to be a liberal, Obama, and his team, operate most similarly to Fascists.
The BIG news here is that FOX News:
1. had a black
2. democrat
3. congressman
4. from the SOUTH
on its show! Wow progress! I am imp….wait….
:44
Nevermind….
probably a graduate of the GOP Deutsches Jungvolk is responsible.
I agree with Rick Day.
I don’t.
Rick starts by trying to bring race into the conversation for no reason, and then he starts implying Nazism. He’s being just as bad as those who painted on Congressman Scott’s door.
The problem is those who painted the swastika are probably buddies of Ricks.
The GOP has to distance itself from the side of the party that spews hate to fire up the base. The Dems had the same issues with the Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton… wing of their party. Unless the GOP gets this under control they will become a regional based party.
I know many of you will get upset and try to defend the Rush style politics. But at the end of the day it is backfiring! It may put money in the flame throwers pockets but it is destroying the party and our country.
What is sad is many of you on both sides as reflected on this blog at times are more excited about the fight than the issues.
“Unless the GOP gets this under control they will become a regional based party.”
Why do you assume it was somebody from the GOP, or is it the GOP’s job to guard Congressman Scott’s office?
Macho
At the end of the day it is irrelevant who gets caught. Because the tone of the debate has gotten so ugly and off base about the real issue it will only marginalize the GOP. The truth is both parties are not dealing with the cost side of the debate in a serious tone.
Both sides scream about choice of any procedure and or doctor yet do not tell us how we can pay for it. Both sides are not realistically dealing with issues of the underinsured and uninsured being subsidized by tax payers when they get sick and do not have the money.
Both sides do not want to deal with the word rationing. And any honest intelligent person knows that has to be part of the conversation or our country will go BK.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself are you part of the problem of people wanting things they cannot afford being subsidized or part of the solution of wanting to balance what we get so we do not sell out future generations!
JK
It does matter who gets caught. I’d like to see them pay society back for vandalism to a public office. If they are caught and convicted, send a message that type of behavior isn’t allowed no matter where they stand on health care.
Sounds like a set-up to me. My guess is it was probably a supporter / democrat trying to make the opposition look bad. It seems to be a popular thing for Obama supporters to do here in Georgia.
http://www.linearpublishing.com/appenstory.html
http://www.lagrangenews.com/pages/full_story/push?article-BC-GA-8212-Obama+Supporter-Fire-0142%20&id=1909326
Who would even do something like that? My guess is some wild-eyed liberal that actually believes conservatives go around painting swastikas on people’s homes.
Watch this video and tell me who would do this. This is not the type of party I would want to be associated with. And I have many friends who feel the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTps4Iau1E
I agree. But your knee-jerk reaction is to assume it was a GOPer. Who would burn down their own house and then blame her support of Obama and the racists from Forsyth county. I’m not saying it wasn’t somebody in the opposition, but based on past history, there is strong potential for the vandal to be a Scott / Obamacare supporter.
What better way to remobilize support then to turn the healthcare debate into Nazis and race-cards. “This isn’t about the pros and cons of a single payer system, it’s about the hatred by the white man for Obama’s and David Scott’s success as black men.” If your base is a bunch of knee-jerk lemmings, what better way to energize them.
Does this mean that the PRIMA FACIE evidence was that a Republican did this to Graf?
Or break up Town Halls such that a squadron of Law Enfocement Officers need to be present to assure a peaceful dialogue in future Town Hall meetings? I would not put this sort of thing past any of the disruptive, uninformed twerps I saw last night.
Out of respect to our host’s desire to keep this forum civil, I am doing my best not to lash out at a very angry, dismissive, young man. Mr. Morris, Sir, you and your ilk are deeply misguided if you fail to realize the intrinsic wrongmindedness of this act, regardless of its’ perpetrator.
The debate on health financing, or anything else will not be sidetracked by this sort of action. We are a Nation of laws and this is now a Police matter.
Oh come on, the Law Enforcement Officers were brought in to protect from the union thugs.
protect WHOM from the union thugs.
The loud folks I saw were young, Caucasion, some had ink, and they were laughing at getting tossed from the forum. That’’s what they came to do.
Who was afraid of union thugs, macho? And were YOU there?
Certainly was what I saw.
Bad eggs in every party…in every group…in every neighborhood…in every school…in every county….in every state…in every country.
But, putting your head in the sand and backing Obamacare, is not very smart for you, John.
[Repeat of comment to Bird, above]
Two words: General Motors, Bird.
Also, from Wikipedia:
“Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak.[6] Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state.[7] Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.[8]“
Point 1: Obama’s healthcare plan tells us that people over 55 years old can wait FOREVER for their doctor’s appointment. And, the life of adults with cerebral palsy are worth allowing to die. (survival of the fittest concept, Bird.)
Point 2: Democrats do not care about any other party but Democrats and seek to demonize all opponents. Thus, try to kill the Republican Party and have only ONE party in this country.
Point 3: Fascists “forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement”…well, Bird, that certainly looks a LOT like what Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are doing when they call Americans who protest their plan “Nazis and swastika-carrying”.
Your Obama sends his union thugs to oppress any dissent by anyone and they have no objection to using VIOLENCE to carry out their message:
http://urbangrounds.com/2009/08/07/seiu-thugs/
THIS sh*t happned, Bird. Your freaking political party leaders are advocating the process of stomping out ALL dissent to your plans.
If you support any of this, Bird, you ARE a Fascist.
@Bill Simon Absolutely chilling. The few union folks I saw last night were female medical people.
Lockheed is chock-full of Machinists Union members who will answer the call to be a Thug-For-Obama.
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